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I was talking to someone today about homosexuality and marriage, and they presented a very convincing (to me) argument as to why Christians should reject homosexuality and homosexual marriage as acceptable.

He made the note that there are references in the Bible to the Church as the bride, and Christ (i.e. God) as the bridegroom. He also noted that in the beginning, before the fall of man, God created two humans, one male, one female, and put them together. He didn't make a man and a man, or a woman and a woman. He told the two to be fruitful and multiply. Even though there was no government or anything other than God to recognize it, Adam and Eve were the first married couple. Their marriage can be seen as a parallel to our relationship to God. Worshipping another god is the same as cheating on a spouse. Doing anything other than staying with God is a perversion of what he originally intended. In such a context homosexuality could be seen as the equivalent of self-worship, or the worship of things of this earth, which will not last.

So with this perspective homosexuality is a direct perversion of God's design. If homosexuality is a perversion of God's design, then a Christian that supports and approves of homosexuality is promoting a perversion over what God intended, and is therefore directly contradicting God and the church.


I would appreciate it if only Christians would post. I know that many of you non-Christians out there think the Bible is a load of crap and the we Christians shouldn't live our lives according to such an "out-dated" book, but who are you to butt in and tell us how to live? This thread is directed specifically at Christians, both those that do and don't support homosexuality, so your comments are irrelevant if you consider the Bible a worthless book.

i think thats known as 'adam and eve, not adam and steve'. so not exactly new, but true to us christians.

and although some people argue that if he didn't intend it, why did he make it possible. Paul said "all things are possible, but all are not permitable." so with out the option, it wouldn't be a choice. God wants us to chose good and right things, even if bad things are possible.

Of course all sin is a perversion of God's plan, but what I'm looking for here is what people think of this specific argument (i.e. The parallel b/w marriage and our relationship with God).

I think God designed adam and eves genetics to contain all the variations we see today. As their kids bred and then seperated into their own gene pools, the characteristics showed up and got repeated so much that it stuck with that group while their distant cousins looked totally different.

race and homosexuality are not similar to me.

I'm guessing that Adam and Eve were dark enough not to be "white" but not dark enough to be "black." Besides, the Bible doesn't say one way or another. Either way, why should race matter? Gender matters in marriage, race doesn't/shouldn't.

Well, obviously, since the church is made up of males and females (along with the other in-betweens) and God represents both male and female (and the in-betweens), He is for marriage of all kinds.

Exscuse me? What makes you think that I'm going to abandon my position, sweetie?