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This is why you don't stop making anti-Flynn's threads even if Flynn's Booty isn't active.

If you want to speak out against Flynn's booty, make your own topic. Absolutely flood the SF with anti-Flynn's topics until nobody can see any feedback other than how despicable this is. For every one person that hates Flynn's Booty, there should be an individual topic. Let the staff know how badly "some users" hate it.


If you make a topic;
Do:

arrow Make a clear statement about your stance against Flynn's Booty. Explain why Flynn's Booty is harmful. (Because of the inflationary effects and the inability of non-cash users to keep up, making Gaia less attractive to newer, lower income, and younger users;; because other features of gaia become unattractive for use because using them won't make users enough gold to keep up with inflation, causing the many features of gaia to stagnate;; etc.)
arrow Encourage others to make their own topics.
arrow Only make one topic, to avoid violating the SF rules against repeat topics.
arrow Keep your topic bumped! Only bump it when it falls off the first page.

Do Not:
arrow Insult anyone, the staff included.
arrow Suggest anyone should be fired.


http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/site-feedback/let-s-take-a-simple-poll-flynn-s-booty/t.88466971_11

October 14, 2013 --

From the ATA FAQ:
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Are you going to re-release Flynn's Booty/Chest again?
Yes we will be. We know that there are some users that do not like this item, but there are actually a lot of users who do like this item.

You know, a lot of people like smoking, too. Funny thing is that a smoker's harmful desire will only affect their own health (second hand smoke notwithstanding), whereas this appeasement of Gaians harmful desires will harm EVERYONE in the long run.
Except for the people who spend cash, of course. They'll keep up just fine.

October 11, 2013 --
As I've become aware upon reviewing some rules today that personal attacks are not allowed and that suggestions that an employee should be fired fall under this rule, I've taken the hyperbolic suggestion out of my thread title and replaced it with "retrained."'

Also, just so we're all clear on the feedback points of this thread:

- Flynn's booty is wrecking the economy and is continuously re-released despite user protest. It's offensive to most of us that the state of our gold economy is being largely disregarded in favor of making money off of FB.

- The constant advertisements, especially the pop-ups, are annoying and intrusive, and are a rather terrible way to try to squeeze money out of us when surely there are better ways to earn revenue.



October 4, 2013 -- Oh, isn't this lovely? emotion_donotwant

Confused as to why I'm calling out Narumi and not the CEO?
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.87707695_196/#196 <- Because as the one who's ultimately in charge of deciding that Flynn's Booty, pop-ups, flash sales, etc are the way to go when it comes to raising revenue, Narumi is directly responsible. the CEO and the COO do nothing but say "Narumi, we need to raise $X in capital this month", and Narumi is the one turning this website into a gigantic obnoxious advertisement of itself, and ruining the lifeblood of the site just to make some quick bucks.

October 7 edit -- Also, alright. Alright. I see the "Gamification" pictures with the COO, and okay. Alright. He's a sleazy operator, too. I can only go by what I see, and what I saw in that post disgusted me. I still have nothing more to say about the CEO, but I can't defend the mindset of our COO, as well as the notion that he's probably also pushing FB.


September 26 - I was going to write a rant here, but really I just want to know what half-assed and not-at-all thought-out bullshit excuse you all have for doing it this time.

You know, because the excuses we got for Flynn's Booty the first three times it got released to major backlash were so insultingly stupid, that this time around I'm sure it's just going to be funny to see the justification for it.

How about it, Uncle Kenny? Narumi? Anybody else on staff? Any word on if you guys carefully measured the payout in a way that would ensure that there would be no major impact on the economy, just like the first two times ya'll screwed everything royally? emotion_awesome

Note: I know Uncle Kenny is not personally responsible for Flynn's Booty. He's just the guy who usually comes out and delivers the excuses for these things.

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Pictured: "We are ... watching this closely ... not expecting a dramatic impact..."

I had a small discussion with Uncle Kenny earlier, and he does not believe that graph is indicative of the rising prices of items overall.

Well, how about MOAR:


`Smarties
I don't know how anyone could deny the inflation cause by Flynn's Booty.

OMG Graph:
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Ninja Headband Graph:

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Golden Laurels Graph:
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xenpai
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So, I want to collect graphs on individual items, which show the prices of them going up since FB started in late august.

Things on your wishlists, things on your dream avvies, things in your current inventory, hot RIG prizes and EIs that haven't been deflated by resale recently... anything helps, as long as it's valid proof that the price started rising dramatically since the original FB release in August!

(I am searching LMP of all gens with listings)

Keiko's Cake 2nd gen
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Zodiacal
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Compass of Seidh
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Antipathy
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Horns of the Demon
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Custom Cut 3rd Gen
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(If anything is inputted incorrectly please let me know)
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Madame Blaze


I just bought Butterfly's Lament yesterday, it doubled in price today.
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xenpai

Fall of the Morning Star
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Princess of the Universe (inflated even with a sale)
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Alruna's Rose
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Antique Shop
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Rosamund's Revenge
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Reve Rouille
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Spottedteddybears

        Mind if I join in?

        Princess Discord
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        Gogh Reed
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        Lovely Lovely Lady
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        The Sandman
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        This whole thing is kinda crazy. At first I was scratching my head wondering what the inflation came from, but that was like the day of FB. Now it's completely obvious, and needs to be stopped.


Sari1995
Inari's Beads
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Elemental Wings
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Devoted Spica
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Little Lucie
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Seracila Pendant
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Sari1995
Petit Cherie
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Stray Dogs
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Fading Ember
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Winter Rose
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Antique Pierrot
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Deadly Ansha
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(Gaia also had a special offer earlier where if you bought $5 or more of Gaia cash, you'd get Deadly Ansha with your purchase)


Darkend Light


xenpai


Shadowlegend
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Hidden Ace
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Checkmate Void
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Noel's Gift
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Deinocti's Oath
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Imaginary Friend
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Secret Retreat
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Prince of the Sea
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Death Whisper
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Infernal Spirit
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bluecherry
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x3rubiachica3x

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I have been watching the MP very closely this month, nearly everything I have seen, has tripled in price. We were just on our way back down, Deflation just began to kick in. And now, we can watch these inflated prices triple again. I don't even want to know what our new normal is going to be. emotion_8c


Breath of Terror
Here's a couple others:

Embarrassed Dream
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The Lusty Scoundrel
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Friday XIII
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Wolf of Southtown
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Midnight Rainbow
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piyuu-chan
If Gaia really wanted to know the level of price rise, they would easily be able to work it out for themselves.

Trend below one means the price from the 12 months before Flynn's introduction was falling.
Trend equal to one means there was a steady price which did not move either up or down in the 12 months before Flynn's introduction.
Trend above one means price was growing at some rate or another.

I have tried to include some old items, as well as some new ones, and I have tried not to include EI's as Kenny said there are too many factors affecting those prices.

As I don't have the data, trend has been eyeballed.

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panoptes

i dont know if you have the graphs for the Doufu Hua yet, but

i was questing it a couple months ago. around that time it hovered between 2-4m
someone graciously donated it to me, and im so glad for this because

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lowest listing is sitting at 18m
it went up from 5m to 18m in a WEEK

anyone who doesnt see the inflation happening has to be out to lunch :/


UPDATE:
Here is the immediate impact of Flynn's Booty this time around:
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Thank you to all the lovely people who collected this data <3
I hope this makes a clear statement about the inflation that is being carelessly catalyzed without any checks and balances.


*And now for the treat!
Are you an Adblock Plus user? Tired of banner ads and pop-ups shoving sales in your face? Feel insulted when you get to see reminders of Flynn every time you load a page?
Add the following filters and ditch the noise!
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##DIV[id="yui_3_9_0_7_1380772469401_17"][class="yui3-overlay-content yui3-widget-stdmod"]

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I think there doing it because, gaia needs even more money than what they already have...

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Zanethemayor
I think there doing it because, gaia needs even more money than what they already have...

I think they're doing it because the people in charge of coming up with ways to raise revenue are a bunch of sleazy, uncreative hacks that couldn't care less about the gold economy on this site.

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Zanethemayor
I think there doing it because, gaia needs even more money than what they already have...

I think they're doing it because the people in charge of coming up with ways to raise revenue are a bunch of sleazy, uncreative hacks that couldn't care less about the gold economy on this site.

That could be it also...

Invisible Phantom

I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

Dangerous Man-Lover

Beauty of Grace
I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

I would join this revolt and wear peasant clothes too!

Invisible Phantom

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Beauty of Grace
I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

I would join this revolt and wear peasant clothes too!


Hmm, maybe I will. If I do I'll quote you to it c: I wonder what would be the best forum to make it in?

Ruthless Shapeshifter

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Beauty of Grace
I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

I would join this revolt and wear peasant clothes too!


Hmm, maybe I will. If I do I'll quote you to it c: I wonder what would be the best forum to make it in?


The GCD. XD

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Why are you targeting Uncle Kenny? He's a developer, he's not the one who decides on these things. :/

These things are decided on by the higher-ups, you know.

Cute Furry

Light Soprano
Why are you targeting Uncle Kenny? He's a developer, he's not the one who decides on these things. :/

These things are decided on by the higher-ups, you know.

That's why I asked him if there's any word, instead of asking him why he did it. Believe me, I know Uncle Kenny is generally just an unofficial spokesperson in these situations. He's like Fleep was way back when, I understand that. It's just that, good ******** luck getting an answer out of the person who WAS responsible.
Beauty of Grace
`Smarties
Beauty of Grace
I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

I would join this revolt and wear peasant clothes too!


Hmm, maybe I will. If I do I'll quote you to it c: I wonder what would be the best forum to make it in?


http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds-home/revolution-gaia/g.409847/

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Beauty of Grace
I'm debating trying to start a revolt where we all change into peasant clothes or underwear and stay that way (which includes not buying a drop of cash) until they apologize and/or promise never to realize it again. Mostly the apology. I want them to admit they've made a stupid mistake FOUR TIMES.

I like my avatar though D: And it stands in defiance, having been bought by earned gold.

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Light Soprano
Why are you targeting Uncle Kenny? He's a developer, he's not the one who decides on these things. :/

These things are decided on by the higher-ups, you know.
He defends them and makes excuses for them. He posted this on August 22nd. It's obvious to me they aren't watching ANYTHING "closely," and even if they are, they aren't doing a thing about it.
Uncle Kenny
We do watch the effect that every action has on the economy and are watching this closely as well. We are not expecting a dramatic impact after the initial burst wears off and hope to see inflation levels minimized. We do have gold sinks on the way though.
I seriously thought it was a joke when I saw it.
Wow.

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xenpai
I seriously thought it was a joke when I saw it.
Wow.

Not only do I like your sig, but I'm putting it in my OP, if that's alright with you 8u

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