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- Posted: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:42:30 +0000
PETITION IS CLOSED FOR SIGNATURES RIGHT NOW. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING. READ MY POST ON PAGE 66!
(seems they didn't like us up there, and removed us. How can we go from top of the list to completely off it that fast?)
RATE THIS THUMBS UP TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!
IF ANY BOXES POP-UP AND ASK FOR PASSWORD AND USERNAME, DO NOT FILL OUT THIS INFORMATION! PM ME PAGE NUMBER AND I WILL FIND AND REPORT THOSE RESPONSIBLE!
If you have never used and/or heard of Dolphin Mania, try it out! The URL is http://dolphinmania.pandaandpenguin.com/dolphinmania
Lately, there has been a lot of questions concerning the legitimacy of Dolphin Mania. In a recent Ask the Admin, a question was brought up in general about offsite Booty Grab sites.
#2: These bootygrab sites that have been floating around, are they even legal on gaia or are they considered an exploit or something? :/
They're just a bunch of links, but something just feels wrong about them.
Lanzer replied with:
This kind of got me, and a few regular players who I discussed it with very worried.
A day or so later, one of my mods of my guild, and a long time DMv2 help PM'd a paid Gaia administrator, asking for further info on what Lanzer had said.
Here is that conversation:
Hello,
There's nothing in our rules that prevents this from being used YET.
So for now you're okay.
*Paid Admin*
Gaia Online Admin
(Names were changed so nobody gets flooded with PMs)
So, yes, Dolphin Mania is legal to use right now. Keyword is right now.
This is where you can help.
This petition is to let Gaia know that users love Dolphin Mania!
Before I get into the points of why I think you should support DMv2, I want to give a brief history and address some common misconceptions.
Dolphin Mania actually started out like every single Booty Grab thread does. In the Aquarium forums. Dolphin Mania started as a Dolphin only grab thread within the walls of those forums. It was during a double booty weekend that the idea came about. See, me and Panda own a charity thread in the Exchange subforums, called A PAnda and Penguin charity. Well, most everyone sees double booty weekend as a time to get to work on a quest; a time to bust a** for gold. Well, there were a few regulars in the charity who could not play due to lag. Going into an aquarium forum would lag out their old machines so bad, it made Booty Grab impossible. So, it was that time that I started thinking, and made a simple page that was text only. Very different than what DMv2 is today. This allowed those regulars in my charity to be able to get gold without worrying too much about lag, since it cut out all Flash, big images, javascript codes, etc.
Well, they loved it. So, I opened it to the public with a very basic but updated look. The look known today as "Classic." Since then word of mouth has spread, and Dolphin Mania is one of the most popular Booty Grab websites today!
There are a few misconceptions about DMv2 I would like to clear up.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania uses Gaias script to find out what is glowing.
Truth: This is false. I do not use Gaia scripting. What is essentially happening is the website is looking at a public file on Gaias server, reads the information from that file, then displays certain information (glowing or not, time glowing, etc.)
Misconception: The predictive glow was banned by Gaia. That means that site breaks the rules.
Truth: Yes, Gaia did disable the predictive glow. However, they disabled predictive glows up to 1 minute. It is still possible to see glows within that minute time span. This is why you will see "Glowing in 24 seconds." This is not against ToS, as they did diable it to a point, but I do not cross that point.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania is just another scam site!
Truth: No, actualy not. As previously said, we have over 6,000 daily unique users. None of which have been hacked/scammed because of DMv2. Everything on the site that may require a password says in big plain letters "Do not use your Gaia password." We are trying to help people, not trick them. There are no scripts that track your passwords, or any kind of keyloggers. We guarantee we are 100% safe to use.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania discourages playing Booty Grab on gaia
Truth: This is false. We are the only Booty Grab site to offer links to bump threads for people to bump so people playing on Gaia can play them too. If we were against users playing on Gaia in general, there would be no need for this.
Great! Now, I am hoping when Gaia realizes how much people love Dolphin Mania, they will think about not editing rules to have DMv2 shut down.
By signing this petition, you are showing your support for DMv2, and wish that no actions be taken from Gaia to make Booty Grab websites like DMv2 against ToS.
Please state in your post the words "I sign," And please do NOT sign with mules. I will not add mule signatures.
Now to my closing:
Dear Gaia, I realize you do run a business. In this business you run you try to keep your users on your site. Keeping them on your site means there is more of a chance they will buy your product. This is common sales strategy, and I understand. However, in this changing Gaia economy people need a relief from rising Market prices. This is where Dolphin Mania comes in. There are litterally hundreds of new items released every year. These items are becoming more and more expensive, and further out of reach for the average user. Booty Grab was your answer to this, however, people may not have the computer power or time to spend scouring the forums to play. DMv2 just makes it easier for those less fortunate. Now, I can understand that you still want people on Gaia. But, in the long run, DMv2 is actually making you MORE revenue. There are hundreds of tanks listed right now, with more being added every week. Of those being added, how many users paid for their fish with real money just for the specific point of being added to the creation I have made. I recieve hundreds of PMs per month from users in the process of buying fish from you with REAL money, just to be a part of DMv2. So, in the end, our success helps with your success. I am hoping in the end we can come up with a way we can coincide and intertwine, as Tektek has done with the Gaia comminuty. I love Gaia. I love the sense of comminuty it has. I just want to help the community.
(seems they didn't like us up there, and removed us. How can we go from top of the list to completely off it that fast?)
RATE THIS THUMBS UP TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!
IF ANY BOXES POP-UP AND ASK FOR PASSWORD AND USERNAME, DO NOT FILL OUT THIS INFORMATION! PM ME PAGE NUMBER AND I WILL FIND AND REPORT THOSE RESPONSIBLE!
If you have never used and/or heard of Dolphin Mania, try it out! The URL is http://dolphinmania.pandaandpenguin.com/dolphinmania
Lately, there has been a lot of questions concerning the legitimacy of Dolphin Mania. In a recent Ask the Admin, a question was brought up in general about offsite Booty Grab sites.
Quote:
#2: These bootygrab sites that have been floating around, are they even legal on gaia or are they considered an exploit or something? :/
They're just a bunch of links, but something just feels wrong about them.
Lanzer replied with:
Quote:
A general suggestion is - stay on Gaia to earn Gaia gold. If you go with something that is not endorsed by Gaia, then it technically is considered as an exploit! :O
This kind of got me, and a few regular players who I discussed it with very worried.
A day or so later, one of my mods of my guild, and a long time DMv2 help PM'd a paid Gaia administrator, asking for further info on what Lanzer had said.
Here is that conversation:
My mod
Paid Admin
My Mod
Hello ******,
I apologize if I am bothering you, but I've got a question I hope you can answer.
Es-One and Pandamarie have made this text based website for booty grabbing, called Dolphinmania. Here is a link. You can choose which section of tanks you would like to grab, and a list of the tanks under that section appear. If it is glowing, a link is displayed for the tank so the user can click and grab. It was originally made for their friends who had trouble with lag while playing, but is now open to the public of Gaia.
As far as the users of the site know, Dolphinmania is all right to use. Several moderators have their tank on there, even a developer. However, on yesterday's Ask the Admin, Lanzer wrote:
A general suggestion is - stay on Gaia to earn Gaia gold. If you go with something that is not endorsed by Gaia, then it technically is considered as an exploit! :O
Link
I certainly do not want users to get into trouble for using Dolphinmania, or another other booty grabbing site for that matter. Lanzer's answer seems rather sly, which I can understand if he's trying to keep a legal standpoint. I'm asking you if we can continue to use Dolphinmania, or if Es and Panda should shut down the site.
I suggest an alert to users using booty grabbing sites, regardless of the verdict. Many users play on these sites, and it may be best if they are informed whether their actions are all right by Gaia, or are not encouraged.
Thank you for your time, and I look forward to a response. Have a nice evening.
*My Mod
I apologize if I am bothering you, but I've got a question I hope you can answer.
Es-One and Pandamarie have made this text based website for booty grabbing, called Dolphinmania. Here is a link. You can choose which section of tanks you would like to grab, and a list of the tanks under that section appear. If it is glowing, a link is displayed for the tank so the user can click and grab. It was originally made for their friends who had trouble with lag while playing, but is now open to the public of Gaia.
As far as the users of the site know, Dolphinmania is all right to use. Several moderators have their tank on there, even a developer. However, on yesterday's Ask the Admin, Lanzer wrote:
Quote:
A general suggestion is - stay on Gaia to earn Gaia gold. If you go with something that is not endorsed by Gaia, then it technically is considered as an exploit! :O
Link
I certainly do not want users to get into trouble for using Dolphinmania, or another other booty grabbing site for that matter. Lanzer's answer seems rather sly, which I can understand if he's trying to keep a legal standpoint. I'm asking you if we can continue to use Dolphinmania, or if Es and Panda should shut down the site.
I suggest an alert to users using booty grabbing sites, regardless of the verdict. Many users play on these sites, and it may be best if they are informed whether their actions are all right by Gaia, or are not encouraged.
Thank you for your time, and I look forward to a response. Have a nice evening.
*My Mod
Hello,
There's nothing in our rules that prevents this from being used YET.
So for now you're okay.
*Paid Admin*
Gaia Online Admin
(Names were changed so nobody gets flooded with PMs)
So, yes, Dolphin Mania is legal to use right now. Keyword is right now.
This is where you can help.
This petition is to let Gaia know that users love Dolphin Mania!
Before I get into the points of why I think you should support DMv2, I want to give a brief history and address some common misconceptions.
Quote:
Dolphin Mania actually started out like every single Booty Grab thread does. In the Aquarium forums. Dolphin Mania started as a Dolphin only grab thread within the walls of those forums. It was during a double booty weekend that the idea came about. See, me and Panda own a charity thread in the Exchange subforums, called A PAnda and Penguin charity. Well, most everyone sees double booty weekend as a time to get to work on a quest; a time to bust a** for gold. Well, there were a few regulars in the charity who could not play due to lag. Going into an aquarium forum would lag out their old machines so bad, it made Booty Grab impossible. So, it was that time that I started thinking, and made a simple page that was text only. Very different than what DMv2 is today. This allowed those regulars in my charity to be able to get gold without worrying too much about lag, since it cut out all Flash, big images, javascript codes, etc.
Well, they loved it. So, I opened it to the public with a very basic but updated look. The look known today as "Classic." Since then word of mouth has spread, and Dolphin Mania is one of the most popular Booty Grab websites today!
There are a few misconceptions about DMv2 I would like to clear up.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania uses Gaias script to find out what is glowing.
Truth: This is false. I do not use Gaia scripting. What is essentially happening is the website is looking at a public file on Gaias server, reads the information from that file, then displays certain information (glowing or not, time glowing, etc.)
Misconception: The predictive glow was banned by Gaia. That means that site breaks the rules.
Truth: Yes, Gaia did disable the predictive glow. However, they disabled predictive glows up to 1 minute. It is still possible to see glows within that minute time span. This is why you will see "Glowing in 24 seconds." This is not against ToS, as they did diable it to a point, but I do not cross that point.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania is just another scam site!
Truth: No, actualy not. As previously said, we have over 6,000 daily unique users. None of which have been hacked/scammed because of DMv2. Everything on the site that may require a password says in big plain letters "Do not use your Gaia password." We are trying to help people, not trick them. There are no scripts that track your passwords, or any kind of keyloggers. We guarantee we are 100% safe to use.
Misconception: Dolphin Mania discourages playing Booty Grab on gaia
Truth: This is false. We are the only Booty Grab site to offer links to bump threads for people to bump so people playing on Gaia can play them too. If we were against users playing on Gaia in general, there would be no need for this.
Great! Now, I am hoping when Gaia realizes how much people love Dolphin Mania, they will think about not editing rules to have DMv2 shut down.
By signing this petition, you are showing your support for DMv2, and wish that no actions be taken from Gaia to make Booty Grab websites like DMv2 against ToS.
Please state in your post the words "I sign," And please do NOT sign with mules. I will not add mule signatures.
Now to my closing:
Dear Gaia, I realize you do run a business. In this business you run you try to keep your users on your site. Keeping them on your site means there is more of a chance they will buy your product. This is common sales strategy, and I understand. However, in this changing Gaia economy people need a relief from rising Market prices. This is where Dolphin Mania comes in. There are litterally hundreds of new items released every year. These items are becoming more and more expensive, and further out of reach for the average user. Booty Grab was your answer to this, however, people may not have the computer power or time to spend scouring the forums to play. DMv2 just makes it easier for those less fortunate. Now, I can understand that you still want people on Gaia. But, in the long run, DMv2 is actually making you MORE revenue. There are hundreds of tanks listed right now, with more being added every week. Of those being added, how many users paid for their fish with real money just for the specific point of being added to the creation I have made. I recieve hundreds of PMs per month from users in the process of buying fish from you with REAL money, just to be a part of DMv2. So, in the end, our success helps with your success. I am hoping in the end we can come up with a way we can coincide and intertwine, as Tektek has done with the Gaia comminuty. I love Gaia. I love the sense of comminuty it has. I just want to help the community.