Help me understand...[Debate on Sasuke Uchiha]

[Canny Sakura]

xx Dragon-Pie xx

Sure, I'd use it, but shitting on his brother's memory like that... no, that's not a good guy deep down. It's a draco in leather pants.
Will he be redeemed? Yes. But that's because Naruto's basically Ninja Jesus, not because Sasuke's secretly a good guy deep down.
He didn't even need to kill Karin. neutral Danzo's got a head, you know. Stab him between the eyes.
He didn't need to kill Sakura, either. He would've if he hadn't been stopped.

How did he s**t on his brother's memory? He wanted to get revenge for him, he's fighting against Kabutomaru with him now. Itachi is probably his whole life now.
Sorry, I'm not a Harry Potter fan. So I don't know what Draco in leather pants means :/
Sasuke didn't killed Karin, she's alive because Sakura healed her. And Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke first, he just sensed it and reacted. It wasn't a good idea to get around unstable Sasuke even for a second.
I also like a part of him that's evil. I don't know why, but I liked that part in Vegeta as well. He's so badass but soft at the same time xD

[King Shining Heaven]

[Lizethel]

Queen Shining Heaven

^That is truly awesome cat_xd

[Epicly Deranged]

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

[Tristam Kalder]

Epicly Deranged

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

A few of your points I actualy laughed at, thanks! (Always wants a good laugh) But, for a Sasuke cosplayer you have your mind in the right place, and some of your points were good. Well played xD

[0o CoOkiEs o0]

Why don't you like Sasuke?

[Epicly Deranged]

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

A few of your points I actualy laughed at, thanks! (Always wants a good laugh) But, for a Sasuke cosplayer you have your mind in the right place, and some of your points were good. Well played xD

He doesn't take s**t from anyone. Not even his friends.

Even though he was pretty much standing alone, he plans on reviving his clan. Which I think takes a lot of courage.

Hnngh..

And no problem. Just trying to list a few things. I think a lot of people dislike him because they don't see where he is coming from. It's not easy to deal with a death of someone you love, let alone almost the whole village. Betrayed by your brother, and surrounded by people who want to use you. It's rough, so you push people away. He could have grown up, not affected by all the death.. but that would be unrealistic. It's kind of the thought that your family won't rest in peace unless you have brought justice to the person who murdered them. So I don't see anything wrong with his motives. I don't like that he left his friends to get revenge. But "desperate times calls for desperate measures."

I believe he still cares for Naruto and the others. But he hides it because he doesn't want them to get in the way. And you know Naruto..

[Epicly Deranged]

So basically.. He can't trust people. He knows people care, but he pushes them away. And what better way to do that by being a jerk? He cares, but he puts that aside because the pain is too much to bear, and therefore.. revenge is top priority. Perhaps he's afraid of being hurt again.

[ESG - GATES]

sasuke is wanting revenge on the leaf village but he will fail.he wouldn't want revenge if madara told him who itachi got his orders from and he would have known that the actuall person he should be looking for is the 3rd hokage but he is dead.so technically sasuke is just a puppet in madara's revenge.there whole story whole explination sauske is a puppet madara is wanting revenge and he wants the ten tails to rage hell on the leaf and the whole world.

[Tristam Kalder]

Epicly Deranged

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

A few of your points I actualy laughed at, thanks! (Always wants a good laugh) But, for a Sasuke cosplayer you have your mind in the right place, and some of your points were good. Well played xD

He doesn't take s**t from anyone. Not even his friends.

Even though he was pretty much standing alone, he plans on reviving his clan. Which I think takes a lot of courage.

Hnngh..

And no problem. Just trying to list a few things. I think a lot of people dislike him because they don't see where he is coming from. It's not easy to deal with a death of someone you love, let alone almost the whole village. Betrayed by your brother, and surrounded by people who want to use you. It's rough, so you push people away. He could have grown up, not affected by all the death.. but that would be unrealistic. It's kind of the thought that your family won't rest in peace unless you have brought justice to the person who murdered them. So I don't see anything wrong with his motives. I don't like that he left his friends to get revenge. But "desperate times calls for desperate measures."

I believe he still cares for Naruto and the others. But he hides it because he doesn't want them to get in the way. And you know Naruto..

It is VERY easy to relate to Sasuke, no doubt about that. Anyone and most everyone can. BUT...I disagree. at least on the desperate measures part. If I fully agree with the whole "desperate times calls for desperate measures" then I would be fooling myself. Not all desperate times call for desperate measures. Sasuke could have fullfilled many of his 'goals' with the help of Naruto. The two are like brothers, its said more than once how close they were because of how simular they were.

I do not promote 'losing' friendships over personal gain. Therefore, I cannot agree with Sasukes motvies. In the end we all know what will happen. Its a classic story, much like Luke and Darth Vader (Oh yes, I went there). where for personal gain Darth uses others, becomes bad, goes to the dark side. But in the end he cant do it..he cant kill his son. Thus, he returns to the 'light' side.

Sasuke will either redeem himself in the end (I hope not, because I will never forgive him...but it looks like its heading that way) or completely distroy himself in his 'venting'.

Thats my view on the subject. I love a friendly debate, on most anything Naruto. Everyone has made some valid points here...Im actualy glad I made this thread xD I feel like we got to know each other a little better.

[Tristam Kalder]

Keon Go Ham

sasuke is wanting revenge on the leaf village but he will fail.he wouldn't want revenge if madara told him who itachi got his orders from and he would have known that the actuall person he should be looking for is the 3rd hokage but he is dead.so technically sasuke is just a puppet in madara's revenge.there whole story whole explination sauske is a puppet madara is wanting revenge and he wants the ten tails to rage hell on the leaf and the whole world.

Sasuke doesnt want to be 'played, used by others' and yet he has fallen right into it xD Keon...I think I know you.... o- 0 *Twlight zone music*

[Epicly Deranged]

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

A few of your points I actualy laughed at, thanks! (Always wants a good laugh) But, for a Sasuke cosplayer you have your mind in the right place, and some of your points were good. Well played xD

He doesn't take s**t from anyone. Not even his friends.

Even though he was pretty much standing alone, he plans on reviving his clan. Which I think takes a lot of courage.

Hnngh..

And no problem. Just trying to list a few things. I think a lot of people dislike him because they don't see where he is coming from. It's not easy to deal with a death of someone you love, let alone almost the whole village. Betrayed by your brother, and surrounded by people who want to use you. It's rough, so you push people away. He could have grown up, not affected by all the death.. but that would be unrealistic. It's kind of the thought that your family won't rest in peace unless you have brought justice to the person who murdered them. So I don't see anything wrong with his motives. I don't like that he left his friends to get revenge. But "desperate times calls for desperate measures."

I believe he still cares for Naruto and the others. But he hides it because he doesn't want them to get in the way. And you know Naruto..

It is VERY easy to relate to Sasuke, no doubt about that. Anyone and most everyone can. BUT...I disagree. at least on the desperate measures part. If I fully agree with the whole "desperate times calls for desperate measures" then I would be fooling myself. Not all desperate times call for desperate measures. Sasuke could have fullfilled many of his 'goals' with the help of Naruto. The two are like brothers, its said more than once how close they were because of how simular they were.

I do not promote 'losing' friendships over personal gain. Therefore, I cannot agree with Sasukes motvies. In the end we all know what will happen. Its a classic story, much like Luke and Darth Vader (Oh yes, I went there). where for personal gain Darth uses others, becomes bad, goes to the dark side. But in the end he cant do it..he cant kill his son. Thus, he returns to the 'light' side.

Sasuke will either redeem himself in the end (I hope not, because I will never forgive him...but it looks like its heading that way) or completely distroy himself in his 'venting'.

Thats my view on the subject. I love a friendly debate, on most anything Naruto. Everyone has made some valid points here...Im actualy glad I made this thread xD I feel like we got to know each other a little better.

We all know that Sasuke is cocky, right..? Sure, with the help of Naruto.. it could work. However, because Sasuke is cocky, he feels like it's none of Naruto's business. It had nothing to do with him, so he shouldn't be getting involved. But what if.. because Sasuke cares, and because he is cocky, he's afraid that Naruto will get injured, or even killed because of him and his problems? A lot of people end up that way. If Naruto were to get killed because of his problems, it will be a heavy burden. He wouldn't be able to handle losing his best friend.

I'm surprised these Sasuke fans aren't torturing you for it.

[ESG - GATES]

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Keon Go Ham

sasuke is wanting revenge on the leaf village but he will fail.he wouldn't want revenge if madara told him who itachi got his orders from and he would have known that the actuall person he should be looking for is the 3rd hokage but he is dead.so technically sasuke is just a puppet in madara's revenge.there whole story whole explination sauske is a puppet madara is wanting revenge and he wants the ten tails to rage hell on the leaf and the whole world.

Sasuke doesnt want to be 'played, used by others' and yet he has fallen right into it xD Keon...I think I know you.... o- 0 *Twlight zone music*

im a friend on ur friend list




Sasuke is retarded.Madara pratically told Sasuke he is using him when he said we are going to get revenge on the hidden leaf.He said we.Key word we.He didnt say ill help u he didn't say ill leand u a hand.He said we.So Sasuke is technically getting mind ******** by madara evil twisted biggrin smile

[Tristam Kalder]

Epicly Deranged

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Epicly Deranged

We're a lot alike, so I can relate to him on many levels. Especially with him being lonely, yet pushing people he cares for away. Losing someone he loves to death. ETC..

He's got awesome techniques.

He always .. well, usually, wears nice clothing. So he's got a sense of style. <-- Not important, but still nice.

He's stubborn, which I find cute.

He doesn't let people's opinions stop him from doing what he feels is right. <-- Favorite.

People will try to use him. And in the end, he kicks their a**.

He turned Sakura down. Say "No" to bitches!

He is somewhat twisted. I like that in a person.

He's determined and doesn't like to give up.

I'm sure there's more to it than this. But.. my mind is almost dead right now. So I'm just gonna end it with this.

A few of your points I actualy laughed at, thanks! (Always wants a good laugh) But, for a Sasuke cosplayer you have your mind in the right place, and some of your points were good. Well played xD

He doesn't take s**t from anyone. Not even his friends.

Even though he was pretty much standing alone, he plans on reviving his clan. Which I think takes a lot of courage.

Hnngh..

And no problem. Just trying to list a few things. I think a lot of people dislike him because they don't see where he is coming from. It's not easy to deal with a death of someone you love, let alone almost the whole village. Betrayed by your brother, and surrounded by people who want to use you. It's rough, so you push people away. He could have grown up, not affected by all the death.. but that would be unrealistic. It's kind of the thought that your family won't rest in peace unless you have brought justice to the person who murdered them. So I don't see anything wrong with his motives. I don't like that he left his friends to get revenge. But "desperate times calls for desperate measures."

I believe he still cares for Naruto and the others. But he hides it because he doesn't want them to get in the way. And you know Naruto..

It is VERY easy to relate to Sasuke, no doubt about that. Anyone and most everyone can. BUT...I disagree. at least on the desperate measures part. If I fully agree with the whole "desperate times calls for desperate measures" then I would be fooling myself. Not all desperate times call for desperate measures. Sasuke could have fullfilled many of his 'goals' with the help of Naruto. The two are like brothers, its said more than once how close they were because of how simular they were.

I do not promote 'losing' friendships over personal gain. Therefore, I cannot agree with Sasukes motvies. In the end we all know what will happen. Its a classic story, much like Luke and Darth Vader (Oh yes, I went there). where for personal gain Darth uses others, becomes bad, goes to the dark side. But in the end he cant do it..he cant kill his son. Thus, he returns to the 'light' side.

Sasuke will either redeem himself in the end (I hope not, because I will never forgive him...but it looks like its heading that way) or completely distroy himself in his 'venting'.

Thats my view on the subject. I love a friendly debate, on most anything Naruto. Everyone has made some valid points here...Im actualy glad I made this thread xD I feel like we got to know each other a little better.

We all know that Sasuke is cocky, right..? Sure, with the help of Naruto.. it could work. However, because Sasuke is cocky, he feels like it's none of Naruto's business. It had nothing to do with him, so he shouldn't be getting involved. But what if.. because Sasuke cares, and because he is cocky, he's afraid that Naruto will get injured, or even killed because of him and his problems? A lot of people end up that way. If Naruto were to get killed because of his problems, it will be a heavy burden. He wouldn't be able to handle losing his best friend.

I'm surprised these Sasuke fans aren't torturing you for it.

Ah yes, but we all know Sasuke is not afraid of killing Naruto. His mind is completly gone. He is being used so much he cant even see it (Silly boy, Sasuke!). In the end I believe Sasuke will kill Naruto, or Naruto will die trying to save Sasuke. Sasuke could care less about Naruto getting hurt...dont fool yourself.

-gasps and points at you- Y-....YOUR BEING MANIPULATED BY MADARA AS WELL! xD

Sasuke fans can attempt to torture me, thats fine. But I'm so used to it now, I dont pay much attention. Its silly how people get all I HATE SASUKE *gasp* WELL I HATE YOU on here. In a way its funny but...haters gonna hate I guess -shrugs-

[Tristam Kalder]

Keon Go Ham

Hatake Kakashi Leaf Anbu

Keon Go Ham

sasuke is wanting revenge on the leaf village but he will fail.he wouldn't want revenge if madara told him who itachi got his orders from and he would have known that the actuall person he should be looking for is the 3rd hokage but he is dead.so technically sasuke is just a puppet in madara's revenge.there whole story whole explination sauske is a puppet madara is wanting revenge and he wants the ten tails to rage hell on the leaf and the whole world.

Sasuke doesnt want to be 'played, used by others' and yet he has fallen right into it xD Keon...I think I know you.... o- 0 *Twlight zone music*

im a friend on ur friend list




Sasuke is retarded.Madara pratically told Sasuke he is using him when he said we are going to get revenge on the hidden leaf.He said we.Key word we.He didnt say ill help u he didn't say ill leand u a hand.He said we.So Sasuke is technically getting mind ******** by madara evil twisted biggrin smile

I knew it! xD I was like...I know that username...*ponders* xD

Madara is amaster at using others for personal gain. His character is bad through and through. He is totally using Sasuke and in those moments where we (the narutards watching every episode religously) can see how madara is using Sasuke I always grin, happy inside.