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darkcrimsongoth
What was the name of Cain's wife?

He killed his brother and left his family and he married his wife.

Who was the wife and where did she come from if they was only Adam, Eve and Cain in the whole world?


Genesis 4:16–17. After he murdered Abel, Cain left. It does not mention her name, but it was more than likely that she was his sister, seeing as it's implied that Adam and Eve had more children. The verse also looks like it says he was already married to her before he left.


But if the girl was his sister, why would she leave? Cain left Eden and he went to the east *I think* and he met his wife then, as I remember. Where did she come from? Why did the girl leave if she had done nothing wrong?
Just wondering, if one day, God comes down and goes "Thou shalt now kill each other until I'm happy." would you do it? Is it now a question of blind faith or do you believe in God to a certain extent? Or are you just gonna avoid the question by saying that your God is never gonna ask you to do such a thing.

The thing is, is christianity about the God or about the values?

Because if it's about the god, I think it's kinda pointless.
makkura_majo
Just wondering, if one day, God comes down and goes "Thou shalt now kill each other until I'm happy." would you do it? Is it now a question of blind faith or do you believe in God to a certain extent? Or are you just gonna avoid the question by saying that your God is never gonna ask you to do such a thing.

The thing is, is christianity about the God or about the values?

Because if it's about the god, I think it's kinda pointless.


All religions in the world is mainly centralized around an ideal. I say religion with an exclusivity because religions are time-endured, and pertain to the better qualities of humanity. Church of Scientology and such are CULTS. Yes, read it over again if you can't believe it. CULTS. Religions circle around ideals about human behaviour, value system, and belief. There are usually doctrines (for those who don't know this world, it means a manual, book, or some written object passed down) that they follow.

Now to finish answering the question. To me at least, Christianity is about the values. Even if it turns out that there is no heaven or hell, I'll still do what I do now. Whether there is afterlife or not, it matters not to me. That, to me, is the ideal Christian way. But many do not follow it, and it does not bother me.

There's one thing I always say... For a world like this, there better be a hell. You guys need there to be one.

Aged Gaian

darkcrimsongoth
Peaceful Revolution
darkcrimsongoth
What was the name of Cain's wife?

He killed his brother and left his family and he married his wife.

Who was the wife and where did she come from if they was only Adam, Eve and Cain in the whole world?


Genesis 4:16–17. After he murdered Abel, Cain left. It does not mention her name, but it was more than likely that she was his sister, seeing as it's implied that Adam and Eve had more children. The verse also looks like it says he was already married to her before he left.


But if the girl was his sister, why would she leave? Cain left Eden and he went to the east *I think* and he met his wife then, as I remember. Where did she come from? Why did the girl leave if she had done nothing wrong?


The verse implies they were already married. And I'd imagine she left because she was his wife and did not want to leave her husband by himself.
How come everyone just accepts that Christ was against homosexuality even though he never mentioned it during his life? The only time "he" does is in revelations, aka, years after Paul made it into an issue.

I'm sure most would say "because the OT talked about it." As the OT Yahweh and NT Jesus are polar opposites sometimes, to me that's not valid reason.
My question, perhaps, fits in with the one above.

In the OT, YHWH is a big, mean, angry God. He slays so many people, seemingly without a second thought, and is incredibly strict upon his "chosen people".

In the NT, Jesus is nearly his polar opposite, as laidbymeaning noted. He's talked about as being the "Lamb of God", which works out well for the sacrifice portion of the story, but lambs are thought of as gentle creatures... I mean, he could have been the "Ram of God", right?

I wonder how you merge these two aspects of God together?
I hate in OT how Lot sacrifices his daughter for angels (see Sodom and Gemorah story). What's worse is people still pretty much think of him as a man of God. Not only is that quite probably the worst think a man can do short of raping his daughter to death himself but an angel could fight off any man.

A lot of other things God allowed unpunished/did himself are simply foul.

Jesus I like for a variety of reasons but largely because he is "not his Father" xP.

(I'm not any religion but I used to be Christian. Just so it's not confusing.)
laidbymeaning
I hate in OT how Lot sacrifices his daughter for angels (see Sodom and Gemorah story). What's worse is people still pretty much think of him as a man of God. Not only is that quite probably the worst think a man can do short of raping his daughter to death himself but an angel could fight off any man.


First, remember that this is a Middle Eastern culture. In Middle Eastern culture, allowing a guest to come to harm is one of the worst things you can do. It may be hard for people today to wrap their mind around but the betraying a guest of protection would of been seen as the worse of two evils by Lot and most of the people in that region. Not all cultures had the same morality we do today, like the Vikings thought of murder as a private affair between the muderer and family of the murdered and the murderer often just had to pay a fine.
Also Lot did not know they were angels and just thought they were normal men.
Ashley the Bee
My question, perhaps, fits in with the one above.

In the OT, YHWH is a big, mean, angry God. He slays so many people, seemingly without a second thought, and is incredibly strict upon his "chosen people".

In the NT, Jesus is nearly his polar opposite, as laidbymeaning noted. He's talked about as being the "Lamb of God", which works out well for the sacrifice portion of the story, but lambs are thought of as gentle creatures... I mean, he could have been the "Ram of God", right?

I wonder how you merge these two aspects of God together?

Maybe it's easier to see God once you become a parent because I really don't see the huge issue with how God acts in either the Old or New Testament, since in both Testaments He is most often referred to as a loving, kind, forgiving, patient God.

When your children are young, you probably often appear as really mean or really loving, in part because young children are VERY self-centered, so if you are not giving them what they want, then you are absolute evil, and if you're doing what they want then you're the most loving, nicest person in the world. Combine their perceptions with how you have to act in order to protect and raise them, teaching them how to love, and how to behave, and what is good for them and what is not. As kids mature, their view of their parents changes, they begin to see that parents really do things because they care, and also parents no longer have to spank, since the kids reach a point where they can be reasoned with, so the relationship changes.

I believe that is part of what we see on a much grander scale in the Bible. God is "raising" humankind, so He has to act in a different way when humankind was "young" and His approach to us changed as we "matured", while at the same time our perception of Him has also undergone changes.
First Question: Who did Cain take as his wife when he was cast out of Eden. According to the bible, the sum of the human population consisted of Adam, Eve, Cain, and the (now) deceased Able. Or was god busy making other people not worthy of mentioning?

Second Question: How many deities do christians really have? Is it one with multiple personalities (god, jesus and the holy spirit) or three separate beings, thus making christians polytheistic?

Third Question: According to the ten commandments, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", does this mean that it is acceptable to have other gods after "me", so long as they are not of a higher station?

Fourth Question: Again, according to the ten commandments, "Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of thy God." Aside from never actually giving a name, what would be a "rightful use" of this un-given name? Generally, it is accepted by christians, that this name is YHWH, transliterated from Hebrew, and means "I am", or in Latin, Sum.

Fifth Question: If you accept the omniscience of this god, that is, that said god is "all knowing", then said god must already know the fate of each and every soul before it is incarnated into flesh. If this is so, then how can this same god condemn anyone to hell, having the foreknowledge of what life path that individual will take.

Sixth Question: If, according to the bible, 144,000 are the sum of those so chosen to enter heaven, then are the other 6,754,587,719 people on earth are are just plain out of luck?

Seventh Question: Again, according to the bible, in the end times it is said that the dead will be freed from their graves, and from the sea, and judged according to their deeds. Does this mean, at this moment, heaven is empty, and everyone is just waiting around to be judged?

Eighth Question: What possible use could god have for gold, and precious gemstone to decorate heaven with and in such abundance?

Ninth Question: If god has a throne, and jesus has a at least a floor-mat to sit off to god's right side, and the twenty-four elders mentioned in revelations also have somewhere to sit, does that mean everyone else has to either stand or fly around all the time? And why would anyone need anywhere to sit anyways?

Tenth Question: Why would god bother to "prove" his existence to Moses by manifesting first as a flaming bush, then as a pillar of flame, but never bother to make another personal appearance again?

~I
IndigoRage
First Question: Who did Cain take as his wife when he was cast out of Eden. According to the bible, the sum of the human population consisted of Adam, Eve, Cain, and the (now) deceased Able. Or was god busy making other people not worthy of mentioning?
First, many Christians do not believe in a literal account of Genesis and second the most common beliefi s that Cain married his sister.
Second Question: How many deities do christians really have? Is it one with multiple personalities (god, jesus and the holy spirit) or three separate beings, thus making christians polytheistic?
It is one God in three persons.

Third Question: According to the ten commandments, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", does this mean that it is acceptable to have other gods after "me", so long as they are not of a higher station?
The way I look at it, why would someone worship a lesser god is they still worship the all-powerful Abrahamic god?


Fourth Question: Again, according to the ten commandments, "Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of thy God." Aside from never actually giving a name, what would be a "rightful use" of this un-given name? Generally, it is accepted by christians, that this name is YHWH, transliterated from Hebrew, and means "I am", or in Latin, Sum.
"God" is essentially the name which Christians call the deity they worship. Thus when taken in this context one shouldn't blaspheme.


Fifth Question: If you accept the omniscience of this god, that is, that said god is "all knowing", then said god must already know the fate of each and every soul before it is incarnated into flesh. If this is so, then how can this same god condemn anyone to hell, having the foreknowledge of what life path that individual will take.
People condemn their own self to hell. People have free will and it is they who use it to sin.


Sixth Question: If, according to the bible, 144,000 are the sum of those so chosen to enter heaven, then are the other 6,754,587,719 people on earth are are just plain out of luck?
Only Jehovas Witnesses really take that number seriously. The traditional view is that it is symbolic.

Seventh Question: Again, according to the bible, in the end times it is said that the dead will be freed from their graves, and from the sea, and judged according to their deeds. Does this mean, at this moment, heaven is empty, and everyone is just waiting around to be judged?
It depends on which branch of Christianity you look at. Paticular Judgement is the belief that souls are are judged when they die and for lack of a better word are "sentenced" on Judgement Day.

Eighth Question: What possible use could god have for gold, and precious gemstone to decorate heaven with and in such abundance?
I don't really understand the question. If this is about passages which refer to gold or other wealth in Heaven then it is surely being figurative.

Ninth Question: If god has a throne, and jesus has a at least a floor-mat to sit off to god's right side, and the twenty-four elders mentioned in revelations also have somewhere to sit, does that mean everyone else has to either stand or fly around all the time? And why would anyone need anywhere to sit anyways?
Again, figureative
Tenth Question: Why would god bother to "prove" his existence to Moses by manifesting first as a flaming bush, then as a pillar of flame, but never bother to make another personal appearance again?
God does make personal appearances to people after appearing to Moses.
~I
makkura_majo
Just wondering, if one day, God comes down and goes "Thou shalt now kill each other until I'm happy." would you do it? Is it now a question of blind faith or do you believe in God to a certain extent? Or are you just gonna avoid the question by saying that your God is never gonna ask you to do such a thing.

The thing is, is christianity about the God or about the values?

Because if it's about the god, I think it's kinda pointless.


Okay, here's what you just did. You gave me a question to which I cannot answer correctly. This shows that you only wish to anger me and make me look like a fool. So here's my answer: when God "comes down" (btw, He's everywhere so that shows how much you know) and tells us to murder untiill he is happy (God is love and commanded us not to murder and it is impossible for Him to lie, so again, shows how much you know), I will be happy to answer your question.
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Ashley the Bee
My question, perhaps, fits in with the one above.

In the OT, YHWH is a big, mean, angry God. He slays so many people, seemingly without a second thought, and is incredibly strict upon his "chosen people".

In the NT, Jesus is nearly his polar opposite, as laidbymeaning noted. He's talked about as being the "Lamb of God", which works out well for the sacrifice portion of the story, but lambs are thought of as gentle creatures... I mean, he could have been the "Ram of God", right?

I wonder how you merge these two aspects of God together?

Maybe it's easier to see God once you become a parent because I really don't see the huge issue with how God acts in either the Old or New Testament, since in both Testaments He is most often referred to as a loving, kind, forgiving, patient God.

When your children are young, you probably often appear as really mean or really loving, in part because young children are VERY self-centered, so if you are not giving them what they want, then you are absolute evil, and if you're doing what they want then you're the most loving, nicest person in the world. Combine their perceptions with how you have to act in order to protect and raise them, teaching them how to love, and how to behave, and what is good for them and what is not. As kids mature, their view of their parents changes, they begin to see that parents really do things because they care, and also parents no longer have to spank, since the kids reach a point where they can be reasoned with, so the relationship changes.

I believe that is part of what we see on a much grander scale in the Bible. God is "raising" humankind, so He has to act in a different way when humankind was "young" and His approach to us changed as we "matured", while at the same time our perception of Him has also undergone changes.


I could not have said it any better myself. Thank you!

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