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Starlurk
percocet princess
i don't understand you, OP. you ban almost all topics of conversation, so what the hell are we supposed to talk about. if someone points out something incorrect or that they disagree with you, you tell them not to talk about it. :/ as long as they aren't insulting, you should let anyone have their say.
and i do agree that first post is certainly geared towards fat girls, considering the reaction i had earlier tonight. i certainly felt that thin girls were left out. you need to change the term 'fat talk'. how about 'weight talk'?
also, not being able to talk about health seems rather, er, harmful to me. health should not be excluded from any conversation--health is always 100% important, and weight CAN affect this. you should always consider the consequence, especially in the area of health, to what you are saying...
but really, banning the discussion of so many topics leave people with little to talk about.
There's plenty to talk about. Seriously,
it sounds like you guys saw this topic and decided there were a few factors loosely related to it and just went for it. When in reality this is a place to:
1. Talk about contributing to the project.
2. Talk about how to make ourselves feel better self-esteem-wise.
3. Talk about how the media portrays beauty and what we can do to fight it.
Like I've already said before, 3 is a big one and there's plenty to say under it. I even highlight these things in the OP. If you don't want to talk about those things then don't. Health, however, isn't highlighted in any of that, and if you'd like to read the LD rules it says that a topic *will* be deleted for going completely off topic. And frankly, it seems that that will happen very soon if we don't stop people from derailing the thread.
I feel like it would be disrespectful to the lady who started OB to remove the Fat Talk portion but when I have more time I will definitely add to it to make everyone feel more welcome.
sorry i had to stop you there. first of all don't assume anything. you don't know me. just like you don't know the girls you are spreading these messages too. you don't know if something liek this has effected me, which it has btw and if i even knew about this project before you posted it, and i have.
1. i have contributed but YOU didn't appreciate it because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, like it or not i gave you information that is relevant to this thread and the effects it can cause and will cause to some girls or guys.
2. again i have contributed to this but your thinking prevents you from looking at things in longterm. if a girl finds out she is extremely unhealthy but you are saying she is still beautiful don't you think she's going to get depressed that she destroyed her body because that person who told her she was beautiful didn't bother educating on telling her the beauty helping her body?
3. you are spreading the word through word of mouth which is a form of advertisement which can be viewed as a media. i mean if you want to go on semantics.
opposing you is fine in a discussion because that happens. it's called pro's and con's. be open more please. :/
If you want to go by semantics than by saying "you guys" I didn't necessarily mean you. I've had a lot of people come in here and argue about certain things today that aren't on topic and I didn't even necessarily mean you. So I guess, turn the mirror back on yourself?
1. You're right, I don't agree with you on this topic. I don't believe these messages will cause the harm you're worried they will cause. I'm not sure what else to say about that. I know I won't convince you and I know you probably won't convince me, so what else would you like me to add?
2. I don't honestly believe that most people will be entirely convinced by this campaign. I do believe, however, that it will convince them to start on their own campaign to make themselves feel better. Health isn't all physical, people need to be healthy emotionally too. This helps them in that area. I also don't honestly believe that someone who is happy with themselves will delude themselves into staying unhealthy. Very few women in this country (and in any country really) view themselves as actually beautiful. A lot of them might tell you to your face that they do, but most of them will also admit, when they feel it is safe, that they don't. A single sticky note won't convince them otherwise, but as I said before, it might convince them to try to view themselves in a more positive light and it might just improve their day. Would that be so bad?
I also know from my own experiences and from listening to others that when people feel good about themselves they are way more likely to take care of themselves in every way, they view themselves worthy of being in good health.
I also don't feel like it is YOUR right or anybody else's right to tell a person, without them asking, that they need intervention when it comes to their health. Just because a person looks unhealthy to you doesn't mean they are in general. In fact, if a person really wants to know how healthy they really are, they can just go ask a doctor, who is a medical professional. Are you a medical professional? Am I a medical professional? No, I'm just a person who wants to put up notes where I think people will enjoy them, and yes, I see way more positive things to this campaign than negative. I believe the good far outweighs the bad. I feel our society is negative enough on its own without us deciding to not post these sticky notes.
3. I never said I wanted to go by semantics but since you insist:
Quote:
meâ‹…diâ‹…a
1  /ˈmidiə/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mee-dee-uh] Show IPA
Use media in a Sentence
See web results for media
See images of media
–noun
1. a pl. of medium.
2. (usually used with a plural verb) the means of communication, as radio and television, newspapers, and magazines, that reach or influence people widely: The media are covering the speech tonight.
–adjective
3. pertaining to or concerned with such means: a job in media research.
I don't believe this thread or this project has as much impact as the radio, television, newspapers, or magazines, although I certainly hope it will one day.
Lastly, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm not being open to you. If I believe you're being a negative influence on this thread I'll just ask you to leave. If I believe you're breaking the rules I'll ban you.
If I really was as closed as you think I am you wouldn't still be posting in this thread.
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