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FatalSparks
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FatalSparks
[Akai]
1. If you don't want people questioning your beliefs why do you question others belief that there is no god?

2. The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telapathically tell himthat you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree, just doesn't make much sence to me.

Shut up please. That really ticked me off. Jewish Zombie? Ugh.

read up on your bible.

I do. And he's not a Jewish Zombie. Do not refer to him as such. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in him, don't call him a Jewish Zombie. stressed


But he was a Jewish zombie.

Hitler wouldn't approve of that . neutral
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
1. If you don't want people questioning your beliefs why do you question others belief that there is no god?

2. The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telapathically tell himthat you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree, just doesn't make much sence to me.

Shut up please. That really ticked me off. Jewish Zombie? Ugh.

read up on your bible.

I do. And he's not a Jewish Zombie. Do not refer to him as such. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in him, don't call him a Jewish Zombie. stressed

well what was he then?
Really.
He was in his thirties before he got his visions and spoke to God.

What was he before then?
He was jewish.
he lived in Isreal/jerusalem which is a jewish (mostly) country.
Quote from a Wikipedia "According to the Gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion"
That's what Zombies do.
I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just trying to tell you how I see on Christianity.

Well, yes he is Jewish, yes he rose from the dead. But Zombie is not the proper way to refer to him. Zombie is a lifeless roaming dead body that eats people. o.O;
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WHY don't YOU believe in God?

What proof do you have that this god exists? Other then "it says so in the bible" because the bible's just another book. And don't say "I have faith" or "I can feel him" or something like that. I can feel the love I have for my family, that doesn't mean I could prove to you in any way that I love them.



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What will YOU do when judgment day comes and YOU are the wrong ones?


What happens if we're not wrong? What happens if the only reason humans created this god (of any religion) is so they don't feel so insignificant in a universe that's so big? What will you do then?
FatalSparks
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
1. If you don't want people questioning your beliefs why do you question others belief that there is no god?

2. The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telapathically tell himthat you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree, just doesn't make much sence to me.

Shut up please. That really ticked me off. Jewish Zombie? Ugh.

read up on your bible.

I do. And he's not a Jewish Zombie. Do not refer to him as such. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in him, don't call him a Jewish Zombie. stressed

well what was he then?
Really.
He was in his thirties before he got his visions and spoke to God.

What was he before then?
He was jewish.
he lived in Isreal/jerusalem which is a jewish (mostly) country.
Quote from a Wikipedia "According to the Gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion"
That's what Zombies do.
I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just trying to tell you how I see on Christianity.

Well, yes he is Jewish, yes he rose from the dead. But Zombie is not the proper way to refer to him. Zombie is a lifeless roaming dead body that eats people. o.O;
He wants us to symbolically eat his flesh and drink his "blood" .. okay He's not a Zombie, fine but apperently he's pro cannibalism and pro vampirism. O_o
We couldn't know for sure if there is a god or not.
We don't have any proof that one does or doesn't exist.
The air pressure and lack of oxygen in the air is not enough for someone to live up in the sky.
And, theres no proof.
Just a book.
=/

[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]

read up on your bible.

I do. And he's not a Jewish Zombie. Do not refer to him as such. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in him, don't call him a Jewish Zombie. stressed

well what was he then?
Really.
He was in his thirties before he got his visions and spoke to God.

What was he before then?
He was jewish.
he lived in Isreal/jerusalem which is a jewish (mostly) country.
Quote from a Wikipedia "According to the Gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion"
That's what Zombies do.
I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just trying to tell you how I see on Christianity.

Well, yes he is Jewish, yes he rose from the dead. But Zombie is not the proper way to refer to him. Zombie is a lifeless roaming dead body that eats people. o.O;
He wants us to symbolically eat his flesh and drink his "blood" .. okay He's not a Zombie, fine but apperently he's pro cannibalism and pro vampirism. O_o


True. True.
no offense to those of you who "believe" but think about the BIG picture....doesnt it seem just a BIT far fetched that some ultimate being just created us? i mean seriously...think about it......religion makes my head hurt because, like others have said, the bible CONTRADICTS itself....if god DOES exist then WHY has he not helped us?! im sorry but faith and religion and stuff like that make my head spin rolleyes
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]
FatalSparks
[Akai]

read up on your bible.

I do. And he's not a Jewish Zombie. Do not refer to him as such. Doesn't matter if you don't believe in him, don't call him a Jewish Zombie. stressed

well what was he then?
Really.
He was in his thirties before he got his visions and spoke to God.

What was he before then?
He was jewish.
he lived in Isreal/jerusalem which is a jewish (mostly) country.
Quote from a Wikipedia "According to the Gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion"
That's what Zombies do.
I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just trying to tell you how I see on Christianity.

Well, yes he is Jewish, yes he rose from the dead. But Zombie is not the proper way to refer to him. Zombie is a lifeless roaming dead body that eats people. o.O;
He wants us to symbolically eat his flesh and drink his "blood" .. okay He's not a Zombie, fine but apperently he's pro cannibalism and pro vampirism. O_o

No... What he means by eat his body and drink his blood is to accept him in his whole divinity and he will enter your soul with his grace.

He said to do it in his Rememberance, so we can remember him and use it as tradition. It's not cannibalism.
At one point in a person's life, they believe in God. No matter what form that God may be. When a person is in dire straights, God is called upon.
oh yea well tell me this how can you waste your time worshiping a false idol thats just stupid
kage no neko
aley_watt
kage no neko
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There’s a lot of really great evidence that God does actually exist.

• Billions of people have believed in a God.

• Many people have claimed a personal experience of God.

• Almost everyone has an idea of the perfect, of absolute goodness. And this idea is

remarkably the same across generations and cultures.

This universal sense of right against wrong and of perfection had to come from somewhere.

• Everyone has a longing for justice that is not fulfilled in this life; justice can only be fulfilled by

a judgment after this life for the notion of “justice” to have any meaning.

• Many lives throughout history have been drastically reformed by belief in God.

• The God of the Bible, a holy Judge who damns sinners, is hardly the type of “god” that people

would willingly invent.



Billions believe. Okay, now what?
Many people have been seeing spirits or aliens. Simple.
There is no "universal sense of right or wrong". If there was then there would never be cannibals. razz
Justice doesn't have to exist, people just hope for it.
Lives have been reformed.. Okay? Good for their beliefs. STILL doesn't prove anything.
Of course. Why would people invent him? If he's so scary, why support him?

Also. If this "god" is so perfect, and we're imperfect, why the ******** do you think it'd want to stay around?

Did you read the entire thing? You just took the first piece out.

I did.

Then you would know that under that it say, that those aren't very valid arguments.
I'm atheist because no one has yet to convince me to change.

And for my first post, I want to reply to this...

aley_watt
I'm not typing all this, so it's been pasted:

There’s a lot of really great evidence that God does actually exist.

• Billions of people have believed in a God.


2 billion people on Earth right now are Christian.

4.5 billion people on Earth right now are not Christian.

By your logic, your religion must be false.

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• Many people have claimed a personal experience of God.


Many have claimed to have an experience with OTHER gods, ghosts, UFOs, tiny crazy trolls wanting to eat cheese, etc...

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• Almost everyone has an idea of the perfect, of absolute goodness. And this idea is remarkably the same across generations and cultures. This universal sense of right against wrong and of perfection had to come from somewhere.


It comes from the human brain. We all share the same general ideas, and have created religions around them.

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• Everyone has a longing for justice that is not fulfilled in this life; justice can only be fulfilled by a judgment after this life for the notion of “justice” to have any meaning.


Wishful thinking does not change reality.

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• Many lives throughout history have been drastically reformed by belief in God.


And other gods, throwing the belief away, UFOs, ghosts, etc...

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• The God of the Bible, a holy Judge who damns sinners, is hardly the type of “god” that people would willingly invent.


Ever wonder why no one knows who wrote most of the Bible?

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Either God exists for everybody and some don’t realize it, or God doesn’t exist for anybody, and some are deluded into thinking God does exist.


True.

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• The Atheist: There is no God. Period.


Not true. Atheists do not all claim that they KNOW that God does not exist. That would be wrong to say. They claim to not believe.

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Agnosticism assumes that God doesn’t exist, since if God did exist, he would (by definition) have the power to make himself known.


An agnostic can be either atheist or theist.



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None of these 3 approaches even seeks to prove itself. In fact, there are very few things we can actually prove. Think about proof. There are all kinds of things we believe without proof. We take things on faith all the time. Historians tell us that George Washington crossed the Delaware River. But can you prove that? Were you there? Do you have videotape of the event?

Or, for that matter, how do know that 1967 ever actually existed? Can you prove it? How do you know that the world didn’t start in 1972? Can you prove that the pre-1972 world isn’t just a really big sham? Imagine implanted memories, doctored textbooks, and more. Proof is hard to come by. We take so much on faith, but God has made sure that his existence (at least) is obvious to people willing to think things through.


Two wrongs do not make a right. We trust that the many records of the people that WERE there aren't frauds. We have historians researching history all the time trying to make sure they have it right.

God is one of many extraordinary claims in a very old book that cannot be confirmed for complete accuracy.

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Before the universe existed, nothing existed (apart from God, given he exists). Nothing really means no thing. Nothing is not just a big black void; you can imagine a black void. A black void is something. But nothing is nothing. There would have been nothing in existence before everything came into existence, and nothing cannot do something. Nothing especially can’t create the universe. The classic Latin phrase is ex nihilo nihil fit. Nothing can do nothing.


Actually, ex nihilo IS possible through an event known as quantum tunneling. It is a phenomena that creates matter without breaking the laws of thermodynamics. It is what causes black hole radiation and radioactive decay as well.

Anyway, no one has given me a good reason to believe, so I don't.
well theres no proof he exist except for what other people say and i sin because its fun i may as well enjoy my life its the only one i got and im not going too devote it too something thats not even there
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and to add to my other post...you have no PROOF no EVIDENCE that jesus or god really existed or does exist!sure millions of people BELIEVE but unless someone creates a time machine then we wont ever know for sure xp

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