Tekton knew what he was doing

[Bucket]

AleNeko

Yes, the ads were a bad move and they bugged me (quite any ad bugs me... cat_xp ), but I ignored them so much, I learned about Tekton' site from the Gaia forums...quite ironic!
I really hope they did started before with the notices, but we have no way to know and I'm not in the position to trust Gaia again right now, so I prefere to keep my mouth shut.

I do not care aswell, and I do think his behaviour might be questionable but there are surely reasons behind it, as there are behind Gaia's decisions.
What irks me, is that most people are being very rude towards both parts and know very little on the matter. The dreamavatar site was not updated, the site was slow...? Yes, obviously. It was free, and I would say to those complaining: go, make your own if you are tired and can do any better. And for the ones witch-hunting on Gaia: something had to be done for those ads.

I oddly enough knew of Tekton's website before he was advertising it since I knew one of TekTek's previous volunteers. He had first tried recruiting them for recolor.me but since it was still going to be unpaid volunteer work, my friend wasn't interested and rather stick to what avatar site she loved. xD
But I never really paid attention to the ads. Mainly because I have hardly used TekTek the last three years. Even then, I couldn't help but feel since the beginning of last year it'd be trouble having them on there and no other ad packages. :c

Like I don't care for Tekton as a person but even then, it was easy to set that aside and look at what facts have been presented to everyone. 2 + 2 = 4 still and it bothers me so many Gaians are straight up namecalling each other over this or namecalling Tekton without ever providing zero evidence. I can say in this thread people have tried to be reasonable with providing information and things of that sort at the very least instead of just instantly jumping to attacking other Gaians, Gaia staff, or Tekton. I've tried to make a fair assessment of both sides and while I'm still cautious about trusting Gaia, I feel they really did take the proper steps in handling this for once.

But anyway. Regardless of TekTek being a free site, people aren't upset over that I don't think. It's more they're upset that this decline happened heavily all at once last year after August when Tekton jumped fully into recolor.me and nothing else. Even the volunteers have been saying that's when server issues came up ( I guess he apparently switched to cheaper/bad quality servers then? ) and all the bugs, and when they hit a huge brick wall with trying to talk to him.

I guess people have tried asking him for the programming/code for TekTek so they can do a new version and run it themselves. Guessing it has probably fell on deaf ears though since a volunteer Tuesday barely got him to add up the database for people to access old saved avis.

It's a shame and the site did have its uses but it certainly wasn't the first of its kind. It probably won't be the last either if, for whatever reason, Gaia doesn't try making their own systems to do the same thing. I really think people have thrown it way out of proportion, just like other things on here lately, when there isn't much reason for it. :/

[`J i r a i y a]

<3

I like how this is a thinly laced bashing thread.
lol

[sleepypandie]

Calelith

sleepypandie

How does that entitle Gaians to updates?
Lots of software and code snippets are provided 'as is, without any warranty or promise of future updates'
And people buy/use them, and the creators profit off of them.

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

I never said it did, but he should at least keep his volunteer staff updated. Which he didn't.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

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Even if he was profiting off ad revenue (where is the proof btw? server costs, ad revenue reciepts?)

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

He has apparently made comments about it within staff/site updates on Recolor.me.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

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That doesn't mean he HAS to stay in contact/update Tektek.

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

Then people have no reason to get upset if the site gets shut down, be it because Tekton let the servers rot or if Gaia requests the site get shut down if they don't comply with their request.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

Chibi Halo

I had heard rumor (again this is rumor) that he was going to keep recolor.me up until the money ran out. I think the money was close to being gone and now he sees the perfect opportunity to weasel money out of people to keep the site running. This is just in plain old poor taste.

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

I've heard the same rumor and apparently something about it only lasting another month or two within the most recent staff/site update on Recolor.me.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

✎

...I don't understand what your point is/why you've been replying?
My main point was bolded. None of your replies have been relevant?



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But can't you criticize Tekton's behavior without bashing his creation
and all the volunteer hours put in (by various people) for years to keep it running?



I'm going to stop replying from here.

[Suki Kiryu]

Tek tek also had other avatar sites on their advertisement years ago , its not like it was the first website ever advertised , remember those annoying ads for that overly sexual looking online game? with all the big boosomed ladies on tek tek? or Ernya that was also on its advertising? Everyone knows Gaia is the best site to be on anyway . Think OP made this thread to just get points and a heated discussion thread.

[Night born of Raine]

Nymphadora Tonks Airman

...I never do (and let's not forget those Gaian's (quite a few of them to be honest) have add blockers...

Just too clarify I block all ads, and tektek's "ad" for recolor. me has always been visible to me despite adblock which means it was likely integrated into his site. It wasn't random like an ad either it was always recolor.me that was being advertised. And even now he leaves that huge one up while his site is down. I find this actually quite a passive aggressive move.

Someone in another thread actually posted average web traffic to many similar avatar websites. Gaia was fourth with 270k visitors per 24 hr cycle. Recolor.me which was further down was at 7.5k visitors per 24 hr cycle which was alot better than some sites that have been out for many years longer. So yeah he's been stealing gaia's users all this while as well as items. It's kinda sad.

Source

Line Play: 1,200,000
SecondLife: 390,000
IMVU: 310,000
GaiaOnline: 270,000
Neopets: 220,000
Subeta: 22,000
Recolor.me: 7,500
Solia: 4,800
Ernya: 2,900
Menewsha: 1,300
Zantarni: 1,000
Roliana: 440
Syndrone: 440
Trisphee: 250

ThanatosRising posted this list originally.

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[ponponpon way x2]

I don't think TekTek intended this as a ploy to advertise Recolor.me

I haven't used TekTek much for lack of interest and because of lag.

TekTek kept on updating his Dream Avatar site. I remember new items always being added slowly. neutral

[Calelith]

sleepypandie

...I don't understand what your point is/why you've been replying?
My main point was bolded. None of your replies have been relevant?

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

I quoted several of your sentences to directly respond to them.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

Demon Cookies

Tek tek also had other avatar sites on their advertisement years ago , its not like it was the first website ever advertised , remember those annoying ads for that overly sexual looking online game? with all the big boosomed ladies on tek tek? or Ernya that was also on its advertising? Everyone knows Gaia is the best site to be on anyway . Think OP made this thread to just get points and a heated discussion thread.

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

Most of those were from Google ad packs and from whatever cookies were on your computer.

Or wanted people to stop treating Tekton like he was innocent.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

[Suki Kiryu]

Calelith

sleepypandie

...I don't understand what your point is/why you've been replying?
My main point was bolded. None of your replies have been relevant?

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

I quoted several of your sentences to directly respond to them.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

Demon Cookies

Tek tek also had other avatar sites on their advertisement years ago , its not like it was the first website ever advertised , remember those annoying ads for that overly sexual looking online game? with all the big boosomed ladies on tek tek? or Ernya that was also on its advertising? Everyone knows Gaia is the best site to be on anyway . Think OP made this thread to just get points and a heated discussion thread.

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

Most of those were from Google ad packs and from whatever cookies were on your computer.

Or wanted people to stop treating Tekton like he was innocent.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

Nah man people do this stuff for internet "points" of some sort now a days D; anyway also thanks for quoting heart

[Seinth]

ponponpon way x2

I don't think TekTek intended this as a ploy to advertise Recolor.me

I haven't used TekTek much for lack of interest and because of lag.

TekTek kept on updating his Dream Avatar site. I remember new items always being added slowly. neutral

❝ tektek was actually behind for a long time until it was down for awhile
and then went back up. thats when it got updated again.
but yah he did try and updated it. so that was cool. ❞

[Chibi Halo]

Demon Cookies

Tek tek also had other avatar sites on their advertisement years ago , its not like it was the first website ever advertised , remember those annoying ads for that overly sexual looking online game? with all the big boosomed ladies on tek tek? or Ernya that was also on its advertising? Everyone knows Gaia is the best site to be on anyway . Think OP made this thread to just get points and a heated discussion thread.

Right but those were through ad packets from other ad sources to keep the site going because the ads changed. That wasn't an issue because everyone uses an ad service to generate operating costs on sites like that. Once recolor.me came into the picture he took down those other ads simply took to using TekTek as a bulletin board for recolor.me ads.

[`J i r a i y a]

<3

Whether or not "tektek" was up-dated or behind is irrelevant to the matter. Fact is, Tektek provided a service to this website that they're obviously far too lazy to do themselves. Regardless of "tekton being innocent" or not.

Gaia's approach to the matter, at least in my opinion, was and is ungrateful.
Directly contacting and working out a possible agreement seems like it would have worked in best interest for both websites. However, gaia is obviously lacking in the management and marketing department.

/shrug

[Seinth]

`J i r a i y a

<3

Whether or not "tektek" was up-dated or behind is irrelevant to the matter. Fact is, Tektek provided a service to this website that they're obviously far too lazy to do themselves. Regardless of "tekton being innocent" or not.

Gaia's approach to the matter, at least in my opinion, was and is ungrateful.
Directly contacting and working out a possible agreement seems like it would have worked in best interest for both websites. However, gaia is obviously lacking in the management and marketing department.

/shrug

❝ wait i thought that one dev said they did try to work things out with him...
dev respond here and second respond here ❞

[`J i r a i y a]

Khatnip

`J i r a i y a

<3

Whether or not "tektek" was up-dated or behind is irrelevant to the matter. Fact is, Tektek provided a service to this website that they're obviously far too lazy to do themselves. Regardless of "tekton being innocent" or not.

Gaia's approach to the matter, at least in my opinion, was and is ungrateful.
Directly contacting and working out a possible agreement seems like it would have worked in best interest for both websites. However, gaia is obviously lacking in the management and marketing department.

/shrug

❝ wait i thought that one dev said they did try to work things out with him...
dev respond here and second respond here ❞

<3

Huh. Well there you go.
I was referencing the announcement made the other day on the subject. Didn't know they actually DID try.

Either way, I don't feel like people should essentially "bash" Tekton for what he did and or chose to do. He, again, provided something to the community that in the past was extremely useful. Its payed its dues, and i'm sure its better in the long run for him to shut it down.

However, people bashing him for "ZOMG ADVERTISING HIS CRAPPY WEBSITE" is just childish. But then again, its the internet. lol

[Calelith]

`J i r a i y a

Either way, I don't feel like people should essentially "bash" Tekton for what he did and or chose to do. He, again, provided something to the community that in the past was extremely useful. Its payed its dues, and i'm sure its better in the long run for him to shut it down.

However, people bashing him for "ZOMG ADVERTISING HIS CRAPPY WEBSITE" is just childish. But then again, its the internet. lol

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

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Tekton was using Gaia's IP to promote the site he helped develop, Recolor.me.

He was using ad revenue, IE posting ads on Tektek, to help 'fund' Recolor.me. He was also using the Gaia images to funnel people to the site he created.

Gaia is within all legal rights to claim what they're claiming against Tekton and Tektek.

It's also interesting to note that the letter is dated Feb 25th (sent overnight per what the letter states) and the staff notice that came out yesterday stated that they haven't heard anything from Tekton. He's been sitting on this for roughly two weeks now.

So instead of responding back to Gaia peacefully behind the scenes (which is what they tried to do with the letter and the email), he posts the letters on his site and then decides to shut his site down when Gaia stated that Tektek getting shut down was a last resort.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

[`J i r a i y a]

Calelith

`J i r a i y a

Either way, I don't feel like people should essentially "bash" Tekton for what he did and or chose to do. He, again, provided something to the community that in the past was extremely useful. Its payed its dues, and i'm sure its better in the long run for him to shut it down.

However, people bashing him for "ZOMG ADVERTISING HIS CRAPPY WEBSITE" is just childish. But then again, its the internet. lol

"Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"

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Tekton was using Gaia's IP to promote the site he helped develop, Recolor.me.

He was using ad revenue, IE posting ads on Tektek, to help 'fund' Recolor.me. He was also using the Gaia images to funnel people to the site he created.

Gaia is within all legal rights to claim what they're claiming against Tekton and Tektek.

It's also interesting to note that the letter is dated Feb 25th (sent overnight per what the letter states) and the staff notice that came out yesterday stated that they haven't heard anything from Tekton. He's been sitting on this for roughly two weeks now.

So instead of responding back to Gaia peacefully behind the scenes (which is what they tried to do with the letter and the email), he posts the letters on his site and then decides to shut his site down when Gaia stated that Tektek getting shut down was a last resort.

"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn."

<3

Doesn't matter if he profited off of it. Doesn't matter one single bit. He developed the website, and ran it. Granted, it was ran using Gaia's "property", however, they allowed it. He did them a service, they did him a service.

Eventually, it came to this. He was given options, and chose the option that worked best for him. Really, there is no reason to be salty to him. Whatever "Profit" he made off Tektek wasn't done in closed doors in a back alley. We all seen those shitty ads.