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Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
I am not trying to be hateful. I have only responded to unpleasant comments with equally unpleasant comments. From now on, since my opinion on the correct use of pronouns is conflicting with the opinions of those on this thread, I will refer to any who want to use pronouns which I deem unsuitable by name.
Avoiding pronouns is actually still just as bad as using the wrong pronouns. Because everyone knows you're still thinking very hard "SHE SHE SHE v****a c**t b***h WOMAN FEMALE GIRL LADY MISS MRS MS MISTRESS SEAMSTRESS WAITRESS SHEEEEE." Sorry, trying to make me a girl in your brain isn't going to effect who I really am. I'm not going to suddenly say, "Wow, you're right, I really am a woman, thanks for reminding me."

It's not that. I'm not going to change my mind about your womanhood, but since people seem to have an issue with explicit displays of such an opinion, I have decided that it is much more tactful to use your name than it is to use the pronouns which I think are accurate, despite their potential offensiveness, either to you or others.
Kunoichiban
Mortuus Spiritus
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?


Because you're being a redundant a*****e, and you're going against the rules of the thread.
This thread was made for people to learn about the topic and support one another, not to flame the people here.
You've obviously done nothing but argue and flame people while you've been here.
If you're going to be disrespectful, kindly GTFO.

Find my first post in this thread. I specifically said that I didn't want to argue, and then Syndactyly asked why I didn't want to argue. When I explained, Syndactyly proceeded to argue with me, and so I argued back.
If you didn't want to argue, you wouldn't have set bait. Saying, "I don't wanna argue," is bait. You could have completely left that part out, but you underhandedly made sure we all knew how much you disapprove of transgender people.
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Mortuus Spiritus
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?


Because you're being a redundant a*****e, and you're going against the rules of the thread.
This thread was made for people to learn about the topic and support one another, not to flame the people here.
You've obviously done nothing but argue and flame people while you've been here.
If you're going to be disrespectful, kindly GTFO.

Find my first post in this thread. I specifically said that I didn't want to argue, and then Syndactyly asked why I didn't want to argue. When I explained, Syndactyly proceeded to argue with me, and so I argued back.
If you didn't want tp argue, you wouldn't have set bait. Saying, "I don't wanna argue," is bait. You could have completely left that part out, but you underhandedly made sure we all knew how much you disapprove of transgender people.

It was not bait. It was a warning against specifically questioning me about such issues, unless you wanted me to argue.
Syndactyly
grasscutter
Kunoichiban
I am not trying to be hateful. I have only responded to unpleasant comments with equally unpleasant comments. From now on, since my opinion on the correct use of pronouns is conflicting with the opinions of those on this thread, I will refer to any who want to use pronouns which I deem unsuitable by name.


If you are mature and intelligent as you have claimed yourself to be in your multiple posts, why do you keep arguing with him and responding with "unpleasant comments"? You begin to learn as a child that you do not always have to have the last word.

Even ignoring the fact that I do agree with Syn's opinion on GID and treatment for such and the like, it is apparent that you two are not going to agree on this matter. You could just be the better person and drop it.

Since this is a trans thread in support of the trans population, which you are not in support of and do not appear to be interested in learning about or changing your opinion of, I do not understand why you keep posting here and arguing with Syn. It just seems pointless.
I believe strongly that my side should not have to drop our position because this thread is meant to be an educational and supportive argument for transgender persons. I do not think we should lay back and let arguments against the validity of Gender Identity Disorder be absorbed into this thread. If someone is going to question the validity of this disorder or our identities, I am going to defend it and show transpeople they shouldn't let anyone step on their identity. It's very important that we establish ourselves because no one's gonna do it for us.


No I completely get what you're saying, it just seems redundant. The troll isn't listening, and isn't going to listen. At this point I think that you've defended the rights of the trans population and explained the validity of GID, and they still aren't listening. You can keep arguing until you're blue in the face (obviously not literally), and they aren't gonna listen. They won't even use your correct pronoun. I just the entire argument is futile at this point, and personally just think they should be banned from the thread. They aren't contributing to it's purpose, they don't belong here.
Kunoichiban
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Mortuus Spiritus
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?


Because you're being a redundant a*****e, and you're going against the rules of the thread.
This thread was made for people to learn about the topic and support one another, not to flame the people here.
You've obviously done nothing but argue and flame people while you've been here.
If you're going to be disrespectful, kindly GTFO.

Find my first post in this thread. I specifically said that I didn't want to argue, and then Syndactyly asked why I didn't want to argue. When I explained, Syndactyly proceeded to argue with me, and so I argued back.
If you didn't want tp argue, you wouldn't have set bait. Saying, "I don't wanna argue," is bait. You could have completely left that part out, but you underhandedly made sure we all knew how much you disapprove of transgender people.

It was not bait. It was a warning against specifically questioning me about such issues, unless you wanted me to argue.

Ok well people ARE going to question you about those issues because this is a transgender thread. If you don't want to talk about transgender issues, then GO POST SOMEWHERE ELSE.
[.Vicodin.Dreams.]
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?
Why does it matter? Why must you have the last word?
And if you don't 'believe' in trans or anything like that...then why exactly are you still here?
To get a rise, that would be my guess.
Making you still a troll.

This is a Trans support thread.
You are not trans, nor are you a pillar of support.
You have no reason to be here.
Shoo now, little bug.
Shoo.

I am still here because I want to show the people in this thread that I am not a troll.

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Syndactyly
HeWhoNeedsAName
Why do any of you tolerate this when you can easily press a button and make that person go way?
Something rarely afforded in life.
And Syn you ******** rule I wish most the men in this world had half the balls you do.
This is true, we could just block Kunoichiban, but I feel like that would be in a very subtle way condoning his hate.

Thanks, that's actually nice to hear. I've had a lot of people calling me a p***y lately. :/ Mostly just in spite, the insult doesn't really hold any truth to it. They made sure to very specifically use THAT word.
Awh, Syn.
You're one of the manliest men I know.
<3

You as manly a man as my boyfriend is a princess.
And my guy is most certainly a princess.
Him and his delicate sensibilities.
And his raspberry perfume.
And dainty doings.
Making you quite the man.


You're definitely a man among men, darling.
Kunoichiban
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
I am not trying to be hateful. I have only responded to unpleasant comments with equally unpleasant comments. From now on, since my opinion on the correct use of pronouns is conflicting with the opinions of those on this thread, I will refer to any who want to use pronouns which I deem unsuitable by name.
Avoiding pronouns is actually still just as bad as using the wrong pronouns. Because everyone knows you're still thinking very hard "SHE SHE SHE v****a c**t b***h WOMAN FEMALE GIRL LADY MISS MRS MS MISTRESS SEAMSTRESS WAITRESS SHEEEEE." Sorry, trying to make me a girl in your brain isn't going to effect who I really am. I'm not going to suddenly say, "Wow, you're right, I really am a woman, thanks for reminding me."

It's not that. I'm not going to change my mind about your womanhood, but since people seem to have an issue with explicit displays of such an opinion, I have decided that it is much more tactful to use your name than it is to use the pronouns which I think are accurate, despite their potential offensiveness, either to you or others.
You called me a liar. Now I'm calling you a liar. Because I am not a woman in any sense of the word.

You think wrongly, those pronouns are not accurate. Pronouns are not used to refer to someone's genitals, they're used to refer to their gender. That's why WALL-E is a "he" and EVE is a "she" even though they don't have genitals. That's why Tinky-Winky and Dipsy are "he" and Laa-Laa and Po are "she." They have genders but not sexes.

Go ahead, use the "IT'S FICTIONAL!!1" argument. That doesn't disprove the use of the pronouns in reference to gender in the English language. The characters in question don't have to be real people.
grasscutter
Syndactyly
grasscutter
Kunoichiban
I am not trying to be hateful. I have only responded to unpleasant comments with equally unpleasant comments. From now on, since my opinion on the correct use of pronouns is conflicting with the opinions of those on this thread, I will refer to any who want to use pronouns which I deem unsuitable by name.


If you are mature and intelligent as you have claimed yourself to be in your multiple posts, why do you keep arguing with him and responding with "unpleasant comments"? You begin to learn as a child that you do not always have to have the last word.

Even ignoring the fact that I do agree with Syn's opinion on GID and treatment for such and the like, it is apparent that you two are not going to agree on this matter. You could just be the better person and drop it.

Since this is a trans thread in support of the trans population, which you are not in support of and do not appear to be interested in learning about or changing your opinion of, I do not understand why you keep posting here and arguing with Syn. It just seems pointless.
I believe strongly that my side should not have to drop our position because this thread is meant to be an educational and supportive argument for transgender persons. I do not think we should lay back and let arguments against the validity of Gender Identity Disorder be absorbed into this thread. If someone is going to question the validity of this disorder or our identities, I am going to defend it and show transpeople they shouldn't let anyone step on their identity. It's very important that we establish ourselves because no one's gonna do it for us.


No I completely get what you're saying, it just seems redundant. The troll isn't listening, and isn't going to listen. At this point I think that you've defended the rights of the trans population and explained the validity of GID, and they still aren't listening. You can keep arguing until you're blue in the face (obviously not literally), and they aren't gonna listen. They won't even use your correct pronoun. I just the entire argument is futile at this point, and personally just think they should be banned from the thread. They aren't contributing to it's purpose, they don't belong here.


>> Complain about people using "it" to refer to transgender people because it is dehumanising
>> Refer to somebody who isn't even a troll as "the troll"

xd
Kunoichiban
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Mortuus Spiritus
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?


Because you're being a redundant a*****e, and you're going against the rules of the thread.
This thread was made for people to learn about the topic and support one another, not to flame the people here.
You've obviously done nothing but argue and flame people while you've been here.
If you're going to be disrespectful, kindly GTFO.

Find my first post in this thread. I specifically said that I didn't want to argue, and then Syndactyly asked why I didn't want to argue. When I explained, Syndactyly proceeded to argue with me, and so I argued back.
If you didn't want to argue, you wouldn't have set bait. Saying, "I don't wanna argue," is bait. You could have completely left that part out, but you underhandedly made sure we all knew how much you disapprove of transgender people.

It was not bait. It was a warning against specifically questioning me about such issues, unless you wanted me to argue.
It absolutely was bait because if you REALLY didn't want to argue you would have been like, "I said I didn't want to argue about this," and you would have left the thread after stating your initial argument. A part of you is VERY eager to argue, considering you're also willing to start s**t with me in other threads. And your track record doesn't look good, either; a vast majority of your posts are some form of arguing. You are also now "known" as a troll by a lot of regulars; that takes quite a bit of trolling to gain a reputation. There even are/were comments on your profile from someone asking you to stop trolling her thread. And again, a look at your post history reveals you claiming to be an "expert troll" numerous times.
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
I am not trying to be hateful. I have only responded to unpleasant comments with equally unpleasant comments. From now on, since my opinion on the correct use of pronouns is conflicting with the opinions of those on this thread, I will refer to any who want to use pronouns which I deem unsuitable by name.
Avoiding pronouns is actually still just as bad as using the wrong pronouns. Because everyone knows you're still thinking very hard "SHE SHE SHE v****a c**t b***h WOMAN FEMALE GIRL LADY MISS MRS MS MISTRESS SEAMSTRESS WAITRESS SHEEEEE." Sorry, trying to make me a girl in your brain isn't going to effect who I really am. I'm not going to suddenly say, "Wow, you're right, I really am a woman, thanks for reminding me."

It's not that. I'm not going to change my mind about your womanhood, but since people seem to have an issue with explicit displays of such an opinion, I have decided that it is much more tactful to use your name than it is to use the pronouns which I think are accurate, despite their potential offensiveness, either to you or others.
You called me a liar. Now I'm calling you a liar. Because I am not a woman in any sense of the word.

You think wrongly, those pronouns are not accurate. Pronouns are not used to refer to someone's genitals, they're used to refer to their gender. That's why WALL-E is a "he" and EVE is a "she" even though they don't have genitals. That's why Tinky-Winky and Dipsy are "he" and Laa-Laa and Po are "she." They have genders but not sexes.

Go ahead, use the "IT'S FICTIONAL!!1" argument. That doesn't disprove the use of the pronouns in reference to gender in the English language. The characters in question don't have to be real people.

I disagree with your opinion of your gender. You will not make me agree with you. In the interest of avoiding further conflict, I wish to avoid the issue altogether. You will not let me. Instead, you wish to argue with me. Stop that.

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Kunoichiban
[.Vicodin.Dreams.]
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?
Why does it matter? Why must you have the last word?
And if you don't 'believe' in trans or anything like that...then why exactly are you still here?
To get a rise, that would be my guess.
Making you still a troll.

This is a Trans support thread.
You are not trans, nor are you a pillar of support.
You have no reason to be here.
Shoo now, little bug.
Shoo.

I am still here because I want to show the people in this thread that I am not a troll.

But by posting anti-Tran sentiments in a Tran support thread, you are trolling.
You didn't just post one comment and leave, no you keep coming back and planting more hateful sentiments in your non belief or whatever of these gender issues.

Pretty trolling behavior in my opinion.
[.Vicodin.Dreams.]
Syndactyly
HeWhoNeedsAName
Why do any of you tolerate this when you can easily press a button and make that person go way?
Something rarely afforded in life.
And Syn you ******** rule I wish most the men in this world had half the balls you do.
This is true, we could just block Kunoichiban, but I feel like that would be in a very subtle way condoning his hate.

Thanks, that's actually nice to hear. I've had a lot of people calling me a p***y lately. :/ Mostly just in spite, the insult doesn't really hold any truth to it. They made sure to very specifically use THAT word.
Awh, Syn.
You're one of the manliest men I know.
<3

You as manly a man as my boyfriend is a princess.
And my guy is most certainly a princess.
Him and his delicate sensibilities.
And his raspberry perfume.
And dainty doings.
Making you quite the man.


You're definitely a man among men, darling.
It's actually funny; most people say I am masculine. The only people who say I'm feminine are people who don't like me. So either they're all misogynists (because they're using womanhood as an insult) or they're just trying to get a rise out of me by lying about my personality.

Lol, I imagined him in a lovely blue dress. xd
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Syndactyly
Kunoichiban
Mortuus Spiritus
Kunoichiban
Why is Syndactyly allowed to keep on arguing when I, Kunoichiban, have agreed to stop?


Because you're being a redundant a*****e, and you're going against the rules of the thread.
This thread was made for people to learn about the topic and support one another, not to flame the people here.
You've obviously done nothing but argue and flame people while you've been here.
If you're going to be disrespectful, kindly GTFO.

Find my first post in this thread. I specifically said that I didn't want to argue, and then Syndactyly asked why I didn't want to argue. When I explained, Syndactyly proceeded to argue with me, and so I argued back.
If you didn't want to argue, you wouldn't have set bait. Saying, "I don't wanna argue," is bait. You could have completely left that part out, but you underhandedly made sure we all knew how much you disapprove of transgender people.

It was not bait. It was a warning against specifically questioning me about such issues, unless you wanted me to argue.
It absolutely was bait because if you REALLY didn't want to argue you would have been like, "I said I didn't want to argue about this," and you would have left the thread after stating your initial argument. A part of you is VERY eager to argue, considering you're also willing to start s**t with me in other threads. And your track record doesn't look good, either; a vast majority of your posts are some form of arguing. You are also now "known" as a troll by a lot of regulars; that takes quite a bit of trolling to gain a reputation. There even are/were comments on your profile from someone asking you to stop trolling her thread. And again, a look at your post history reveals you claiming to be an "expert troll" numerous times.

I love to argue. I know that people don't want me to argue. So, I tried to avoid arguing to begin with. Then, argument was invited, by you. So, I did what I loved (but had tried to avoid), and argued.

I will say this once more: I am not a troll.
grasscutter
No I completely get what you're saying, it just seems redundant. The troll isn't listening, and isn't going to listen. At this point I think that you've defended the rights of the trans population and explained the validity of GID, and they still aren't listening. You can keep arguing until you're blue in the face (obviously not literally), and they aren't gonna listen. They won't even use your correct pronoun. I just the entire argument is futile at this point, and personally just think they should be banned from the thread. They aren't contributing to it's purpose, they don't belong here.
This is true. But I am also incredibly stubborn.

He's tried to use the, "Oh, it's your testosterone," against me quite a few times. Maybe it is. neutral

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