Transtastic! ||The Chat Thread||

Do you agree to the new rules of this thread and promise to uphold them if we are moved back? (Read first post, first page)

I agree.	67.0%	[ 260 ]
I disagree.	6.2%	[ 24 ]
I don't want to read them.	8.0%	[ 31 ]
Who cares?	2.6%	[ 10 ]
Gold.	16.2%	[ 63 ]
Total Votes:			[ 388 ]

[Sitaris]

@everybody: Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm impressed this hasn't devolved into a flame war like the trans-threads I've seen in the past, so I'll probably be making myself home here. razz Nice to meet you all.

@Breayue: I'm not entirely sure at this juncture, but I'm probably going to go as a cannibal. It's a pretty easy costume, just put fake blood all over my face and hands and keep a fake head in my messenger bag and wear whatever else I want. Comfort and ease is going to be important, because I'll be going to a concert after I'm done watching horror flicks, trick-or-treating, gorging myself on candy, and generally acting like a manchild. 'Twill rock.

What are your plans for Halloween? EVERYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. HALLOWEEN IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY BIRTHDAY. [/brat]

[se revolter]

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

[Syndactyly]

Sitaris

@everybody: Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm impressed this hasn't devolved into a flame war like the trans-threads I've seen in the past, so I'll probably be making myself home here. razz Nice to meet you all.

@Breayue: I'm not entirely sure at this juncture, but I'm probably going to go as a cannibal. It's a pretty easy costume, just put fake blood all over my face and hands and keep a fake head in my messenger bag and wear whatever else I want. Comfort and ease is going to be important, because I'll be going to a concert after I'm done watching horror flicks, trick-or-treating, gorging myself on candy, and generally acting like a manchild. 'Twill rock.

What are your plans for Halloween? EVERYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. HALLOWEEN IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY BIRTHDAY. [/brat]

There's drama in ANY trans thread... And people tend to consider me a flamer, but what I really am is just direct, and I want to understand s**t and if something doesn't make sense I'll ask the person why that is.

I'm going to be dressing up as Elwood J. Blues for Halloween and spending the day with some friends. We might watch a few movies, hang out, etc. It's going to be relaxed.

[Syndactyly]

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

They cannot get a "fully-functioning" p***s, no.

There is much more to being a man than having a p***s. I refuse to be a woman. Not going to happen. I will transition as far as possible. If I have to live with a p***y, so be it. The thousands of people I meet in my life won't know anything about it. Unless I become famous. Then it'll be the talk of the tabloids. That I would not enjoy one bit.

[GaijinGuy36]

Sitaris

@everybody: Thank you for the warm welcome! I'm impressed this hasn't devolved into a flame war like the trans-threads I've seen in the past, so I'll probably be making myself home here. razz Nice to meet you all.

@Breayue: I'm not entirely sure at this juncture, but I'm probably going to go as a cannibal. It's a pretty easy costume, just put fake blood all over my face and hands and keep a fake head in my messenger bag and wear whatever else I want. Comfort and ease is going to be important, because I'll be going to a concert after I'm done watching horror flicks, trick-or-treating, gorging myself on candy, and generally acting like a manchild. 'Twill rock.

What are your plans for Halloween? EVERYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. HALLOWEEN IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY BIRTHDAY. [/brat]

Welcome, Sitaris!

Not a trans of any flavor myself, but a supporter. I believe everyone is entitled to self-definition, not just the whims of fate.

[se revolter]

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se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

They cannot get a "fully-functioning" p***s, no.

There is much more to being a man than having a p***s. I refuse to be a woman. Not going to happen. I will transition as far as possible. If I have to live with a p***y, so be it. The thousands of people I meet in my life won't know anything about it. Unless I become famous. Then it'll be the talk of the tabloids. That I would not enjoy one bit.

getting a sex change really only changes people mentally, in my opinion. you may have all of the physical aspects of a male, but more than likely your internal map is still that of a woman's rather your uterus has been removed or not. i still don't see the point. you'll always be a woman, maybe not mentally, or what people see on the outside, but inside you still are. i mean, men even have thicker skin than women. there's only so much surgery can do. confused

[Sitaris]

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

While I can see the pitfalls of essentially mutilating your genitalia, the argument is pretty much moot. If it makes them happy to have a p***s, even a non-functioning one, then more the power to them. I wish just having a p***s made me happy. (I mean, sometimes it does, but... nevermind.)

Anyway, female SRS is wayyy less risky than male SRS in pretty much every way. Never mind the surgical risks, have you ever met a man who chopped off his ding-dong and then decided he wanted to be a man again? Not pretty.

[Syndactyly]

se revolter

Syndactyly

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

They cannot get a "fully-functioning" p***s, no.

There is much more to being a man than having a p***s. I refuse to be a woman. Not going to happen. I will transition as far as possible. If I have to live with a p***y, so be it. The thousands of people I meet in my life won't know anything about it. Unless I become famous. Then it'll be the talk of the tabloids. That I would not enjoy one bit.

getting a sex change really only changes people mentally, in my opinion. you may have all of the physical aspects of a male, but more than likely your internal map is still that of a woman's rather your uterus has been removed or not. i still don't see the point. you'll always be a woman, maybe not mentally, or what people see on the outside, but inside you still are. i mean, men even have thicker skin than women. there's only so much surgery can do. confused

I completely disagree with this for several reasons.

First of all, many scientists believe that people like me (female-to-male) wish to become men because out "internal map" is male. Gender identity has been proven to be genetic-- in mice. I am waiting for geneticists to run these trials on humans, so that transsexuals can finally be acknowledged as genetically the gender they feel they are. Gender and sex are separate, the sex chromosomes do not determine gender. In mice it was found over 50 genes contribute to gender identity.

The sex change does NOT change people mentally. It only changes them physically. I have identified as "not female" for as long as I can remember, and eventually did identify as male. I never took on the female persona in my own mind, even if I lived in the female gender role for many years. I felt like I had to "accept reality." Now I've realized reality is not as simple as most make it seem.

I am not a woman. Not even physically anymore. Taking testosterone has made me physically "middlesex."

As for the skin, taking testosterone has completely changed the texture of my skin. I "feel" like a man now when you touch me.

[GaijinGuy36]

Sitaris

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

While I can see the pitfalls of essentially mutilating your genitalia, the argument is pretty much moot. If it makes them happy to have a p***s, even a non-functioning one, then more the power to them. I wish just having a p***s made me happy. (I mean, sometimes it does, but... nevermind.)

Anyway, female SRS is wayyy less risky than male SRS in pretty much every way. Never mind the surgical risks, have you ever met a man who chopped off his ding-dong and then decided he wanted to be a man again? Not pretty.

Yeah, I bet not. sweatdrop

[se revolter]

Sitaris

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

While I can see the pitfalls of essentially mutilating your genitalia, the argument is pretty much moot. If it makes them happy to have a p***s, even a non-functioning one, then more the power to them. I wish just having a p***s made me happy. (I mean, sometimes it does, but... nevermind.)

Anyway, female SRS is wayyy less risky than male SRS in pretty much every way. Never mind the surgical risks, have you ever met a man who chopped off his ding-dong and then decided he wanted to be a man again? Not pretty.

i honestly don't know much about sex changes. i just don't believe you can actually change sex though. i respect anyone who wishes to be referred as the opposite gender from what they really are, but i refuse to believe that they actually are that gender. if you know what i mean?

[Syndactyly]

Sitaris

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

While I can see the pitfalls of essentially mutilating your genitalia, the argument is pretty much moot. If it makes them happy to have a p***s, even a non-functioning one, then more the power to them. I wish just having a p***s made me happy. (I mean, sometimes it does, but... nevermind.)

Anyway, female SRS is wayyy less risky than male SRS in pretty much every way. Never mind the surgical risks, have you ever met a man who chopped off his ding-dong and then decided he wanted to be a man again? Not pretty.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Female-to-male SRS is just as risky. You can't get a normal v****a back either, especially if you've had a hystorectomy and had the v****a closed up. Some transmen even have the v****a completely removed, but that's a risky procedure. I personally would like mine removed, but that might not be an option. Usually only the uterus, ovaries, and cervix are removed, the v****a fused shut.

[Syndactyly]

se revolter

Sitaris

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

While I can see the pitfalls of essentially mutilating your genitalia, the argument is pretty much moot. If it makes them happy to have a p***s, even a non-functioning one, then more the power to them. I wish just having a p***s made me happy. (I mean, sometimes it does, but... nevermind.)

Anyway, female SRS is wayyy less risky than male SRS in pretty much every way. Never mind the surgical risks, have you ever met a man who chopped off his ding-dong and then decided he wanted to be a man again? Not pretty.

i honestly don't know much about sex changes. i just don't believe you can actually change sex though. i respect anyone who wishes to be referred as the opposite gender from what they really are, but i refuse to believe that they actually are that gender. if you know what i mean?

Well that's ridiculous in my opinion. Because sex classification is more complicated than just genitals. And taking hormones actually has a pretty big effect on the genitals on both males and females.

[se revolter]

Syndactyly

se revolter

Syndactyly

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

They cannot get a "fully-functioning" p***s, no.

There is much more to being a man than having a p***s. I refuse to be a woman. Not going to happen. I will transition as far as possible. If I have to live with a p***y, so be it. The thousands of people I meet in my life won't know anything about it. Unless I become famous. Then it'll be the talk of the tabloids. That I would not enjoy one bit.

getting a sex change really only changes people mentally, in my opinion. you may have all of the physical aspects of a male, but more than likely your internal map is still that of a woman's rather your uterus has been removed or not. i still don't see the point. you'll always be a woman, maybe not mentally, or what people see on the outside, but inside you still are. i mean, men even have thicker skin than women. there's only so much surgery can do. confused

I completely disagree with this for several reasons.

First of all, many scientists believe that people like me (female-to-male) wish to become men because out "internal map" is male. Gender identity has been proven to be genetic-- in mice. I am waiting for geneticists to run these trials on humans, so that transsexuals can finally be acknowledged as genetically the gender they feel they are. Gender and sex are separate, the sex chromosomes do not determine gender. In mice it was found over 50 genes contribute to gender identity.

The sex change does NOT change people mentally. It only changes them physically. I have identified as "not female" for as long as I can remember, and eventually did identify as male. I never took on the female persona in my own mind, even if I lived in the female gender role for many years. I felt like I had to "accept reality." Now I've realized reality is not as simple as most make it seem.

I am not a woman. Not even physically anymore. Taking testosterone has made me physically "middlesex."

As for the skin, taking testosterone has completely changed the texture of my skin. I "feel" like a man now when you touch me.

i still could never see you as a male, you were born a female. you are a female. you have female genitalia.

[Syndactyly]

se revolter

Syndactyly

se revolter

Syndactyly

se revolter

if i've been told correctly. females who wish to trans into a male still can not have reassignment surgery for their genitals, which means they won't have a fully functioning p***s. without that missing puzzle piece i honestly don't see the point of having a sex change at all. you might as well just become a lesbian or bisexual who is more so like the opposite sex. there's so many risk with having a sex change, and i just don't think it's worth it if you'll always have a v****a.

They cannot get a "fully-functioning" p***s, no.

There is much more to being a man than having a p***s. I refuse to be a woman. Not going to happen. I will transition as far as possible. If I have to live with a p***y, so be it. The thousands of people I meet in my life won't know anything about it. Unless I become famous. Then it'll be the talk of the tabloids. That I would not enjoy one bit.

getting a sex change really only changes people mentally, in my opinion. you may have all of the physical aspects of a male, but more than likely your internal map is still that of a woman's rather your uterus has been removed or not. i still don't see the point. you'll always be a woman, maybe not mentally, or what people see on the outside, but inside you still are. i mean, men even have thicker skin than women. there's only so much surgery can do. confused

I completely disagree with this for several reasons.

First of all, many scientists believe that people like me (female-to-male) wish to become men because out "internal map" is male. Gender identity has been proven to be genetic-- in mice. I am waiting for geneticists to run these trials on humans, so that transsexuals can finally be acknowledged as genetically the gender they feel they are. Gender and sex are separate, the sex chromosomes do not determine gender. In mice it was found over 50 genes contribute to gender identity.

The sex change does NOT change people mentally. It only changes them physically. I have identified as "not female" for as long as I can remember, and eventually did identify as male. I never took on the female persona in my own mind, even if I lived in the female gender role for many years. I felt like I had to "accept reality." Now I've realized reality is not as simple as most make it seem.

I am not a woman. Not even physically anymore. Taking testosterone has made me physically "middlesex."

As for the skin, taking testosterone has completely changed the texture of my skin. I "feel" like a man now when you touch me.

i still could never see you as a male, you were born a female. you are a female. you have female genitalia.

That's your closed mind then. I realize there are people who are never going to be able to expand. I tend to just cut them out of my life.

Gender is fluid, so is sex. The binary is a load of crap. But people stuck within the binary sometimes can't see that. I can't make them open their eyes.

[se revolter]

well...
i can't be completely open minded, but i'm not closed minded. i do accept that you identify yourself as a male, just like i would accept someone who wished to be called Bob instead of Steve. but anything deeper than that is my own ignorance and the way i was brought up in this world as to what is normal and what defies nature. i can't reach pass that wall, just like some people refuse to believe in a higher power such as god. but i will accept you, so there's no need to open my eyes.