Starting to be more concerned for Injustice...

[Poeden]

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

[Yuna and Raika]

So the part where the Scorpion trailer ended with Martian Manhunter showing up must have been me hallucinating like Juggernaut likes to do, I guess.

[Poeden]

Yuna and Raika

So the part where the Scorpion trailer ended with Martian Manhunter showing up must have been me hallucinating like Juggernaut likes to do, I guess.

The secondary leak for Injustice listed Martian Manhunter as the first DLC character of Season Pass 2. Zod was listed as DLC alongside the current three confirmed characters, -and- Man of Steel (featuring Zod) is coming out very soon. There's pretty much no way Zod isn't DLC 4. At most, Martian Manhunter will be 4 and Zod will be pushed to first in the second set.

[Eric Coldfire]

Poeden

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

I answer your question with my own.

How different did you expect Sinestro to play compared to Green Lantern? How different did you expect Black Adam to play compared to Shazam? How similar did you expect Batgirl to play compared to Batman?

You probably thought they would be total wasted spots on the roster, but they all play different and have their own flare to their "clones".

Superman lacks in combos but has all of his powers. Maybe Powergirl will focus on maneuverability. With Zod's military background, he may focus on combos more than powers.

When Sinestro was revealed I said "that's stupid he's going to play exactly like Green Lantern just Yellow." And he plays totally different.

When Black Adam was revealed I said "he's stupid he has the exact same powers as Shazam, how can he play different?" And low and behold, he plays nothing like Shazam.

So by the time Batgirl was revealed I said "bring her on."

[Poeden]

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

I answer your question with my own.

How different did you expect Sinestro to play compared to Green Lantern? How different did you expect Black Adam to play compared to Shazam? How similar did you expect Batgirl to play compared to Batman?

You probably thought they would be total wasted spots on the roster, but they all play different and have their own flare to their "clones".

Superman lacks in combos but has all of his powers. Maybe Powergirl will focus on maneuverability. With Zod's military background, he may focus on combos more than powers.

When Sinestro was revealed I said "that's stupid he's going to play exactly like Green Lantern just Yellow." And he plays totally different.

When Black Adam was revealed I said "he's stupid he has the exact same powers as Shazam, how can he play different?" And low and behold, he plays nothing like Shazam.

So by the time Batgirl was revealed I said "bring her on."

Superman, Zod, and Power Girl all have the exact same powers, minus slight differences in their breath attacks and varying scales of their strengths. They all have the same powers, though, and those powers cannot be varied to any considerable degree... especially not for three different movesets.

I never expected Hal Jordan to perform anything like Sinestro, because they've -never- performed anything like each other in the comics. They have rings with light, and that's where it stops. Lantern Ring powers are based on imagination and emotion. The form they take and the way they perform are radically different from one another. Sinestro has never been one to form jet engines, gatling guns, or vehicles with his ring. He also doesn't use his ring's light for battle constructs as much as Hal does. He prefers manipulation of fear and underhanded tactics.

As for CAPTAIN MARVEL and Black Adam, I know very little about them, but I DO know that lightning can be used in several RADICALLY different formations, to the point where two lighting wielders wasn't even a remote concern for me. Teleportation, dashing, lighting strikes from above, lightning strikes straight across, magnetism, static fields, force fields, lightning constructs... and not to mention all the various physical enhancements. There was no way Captain Marvel and Shazam were going to perform remotely the same outside of both using lightning.

As for Batgirl... she's known for using blades and other physical weapons, not to mention being as much like Catwoman as she is like Batman. It wouldn't really be accurate to expect her to fight like a Bat clone.

But how do you make flight, basic super traits, laser eyes, and super breath considerably different from each other? At most, slightly different approaches, speeds, damage ratings, and animations. They'll still inevitably be about the same as one another.

[Eric Coldfire]

Poeden

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

I answer your question with my own.

How different did you expect Sinestro to play compared to Green Lantern? How different did you expect Black Adam to play compared to Shazam? How similar did you expect Batgirl to play compared to Batman?

You probably thought they would be total wasted spots on the roster, but they all play different and have their own flare to their "clones".

Superman lacks in combos but has all of his powers. Maybe Powergirl will focus on maneuverability. With Zod's military background, he may focus on combos more than powers.

When Sinestro was revealed I said "that's stupid he's going to play exactly like Green Lantern just Yellow." And he plays totally different.

When Black Adam was revealed I said "he's stupid he has the exact same powers as Shazam, how can he play different?" And low and behold, he plays nothing like Shazam.

So by the time Batgirl was revealed I said "bring her on."

Superman, Zod, and Power Girl all have the exact same powers, minus slight differences in their breath attacks and varying scales of their strengths. They all have the same powers, though, and those powers cannot be varied to any considerable degree... especially not for three different movesets.

I never expected Hal Jordan to perform anything like Sinestro, because they've -never- performed anything like each other in the comics. They have rings with light, and that's where it stops. Lantern Ring powers are based on imagination and emotion. The form they take and the way they perform are radically different from one another. Sinestro has never been one to form jet engines, gatling guns, or vehicles with his ring. He also doesn't use his ring's light for battle constructs as much as Hal does. He prefers manipulation of fear and underhanded tactics.

As for CAPTAIN MARVEL and Black Adam, I know very little about them, but I DO know that lightning can be used in several RADICALLY different formations, to the point where two lighting wielders wasn't even a remote concern for me. Teleportation, dashing, lighting strikes from above, lightning strikes straight across, magnetism, static fields, force fields, lightning constructs... and not to mention all the various physical enhancements. There was no way Captain Marvel and Shazam were going to perform remotely the same outside of both using lightning.

As for Batgirl... she's known for using blades and other physical weapons, not to mention being as much like Catwoman as she is like Batman. It wouldn't really be accurate to expect her to fight like a Bat clone.

But how do you make flight, basic super traits, laser eyes, and super breath considerably different from each other? At most, slightly different approaches, speeds, damage ratings, and animations. They'll still inevitably be about the same as one another.

Well Injustice found a way to explain how Joker can smack Doomsday with a crowbar and send him hurdling through a building.

I am confident that Injustice can make Power Girl, General Zod play not only different to eachother but to Superman as well.

It would be like saying Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, and John Steward are no different to eachother because they're all Human Green Lanterns. Yet they're nothing alike.

I believe when Zod and PG are revealed everyone will b***h and moan "this character is stupid, why are they here" and then they will watch their gameplay videos and will respond "wow this character is awesome, I can't wait to play them".

"All will be Well."

[Poeden]

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

I answer your question with my own.

How different did you expect Sinestro to play compared to Green Lantern? How different did you expect Black Adam to play compared to Shazam? How similar did you expect Batgirl to play compared to Batman?

You probably thought they would be total wasted spots on the roster, but they all play different and have their own flare to their "clones".

Superman lacks in combos but has all of his powers. Maybe Powergirl will focus on maneuverability. With Zod's military background, he may focus on combos more than powers.

When Sinestro was revealed I said "that's stupid he's going to play exactly like Green Lantern just Yellow." And he plays totally different.

When Black Adam was revealed I said "he's stupid he has the exact same powers as Shazam, how can he play different?" And low and behold, he plays nothing like Shazam.

So by the time Batgirl was revealed I said "bring her on."

Superman, Zod, and Power Girl all have the exact same powers, minus slight differences in their breath attacks and varying scales of their strengths. They all have the same powers, though, and those powers cannot be varied to any considerable degree... especially not for three different movesets.

I never expected Hal Jordan to perform anything like Sinestro, because they've -never- performed anything like each other in the comics. They have rings with light, and that's where it stops. Lantern Ring powers are based on imagination and emotion. The form they take and the way they perform are radically different from one another. Sinestro has never been one to form jet engines, gatling guns, or vehicles with his ring. He also doesn't use his ring's light for battle constructs as much as Hal does. He prefers manipulation of fear and underhanded tactics.

As for CAPTAIN MARVEL and Black Adam, I know very little about them, but I DO know that lightning can be used in several RADICALLY different formations, to the point where two lighting wielders wasn't even a remote concern for me. Teleportation, dashing, lighting strikes from above, lightning strikes straight across, magnetism, static fields, force fields, lightning constructs... and not to mention all the various physical enhancements. There was no way Captain Marvel and Shazam were going to perform remotely the same outside of both using lightning.

As for Batgirl... she's known for using blades and other physical weapons, not to mention being as much like Catwoman as she is like Batman. It wouldn't really be accurate to expect her to fight like a Bat clone.

But how do you make flight, basic super traits, laser eyes, and super breath considerably different from each other? At most, slightly different approaches, speeds, damage ratings, and animations. They'll still inevitably be about the same as one another.

Well Injustice found a way to explain how Joker can smack Doomsday with a crowbar and send him hurdling through a building.

I am confident that Injustice can make Power Girl, General Zod play not only different to eachother but to Superman as well.

It would be like saying Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, and John Steward are no different to eachother because they're all Human Green Lanterns. Yet they're nothing alike.

I believe when Zod and PG are revealed everyone will b***h and moan "this character is stupid, why are they here" and then they will watch their gameplay videos and will respond "wow this character is awesome, I can't wait to play them".

"All will be Well."

Uh... people complained about Batgirl after seeing her gameplay trailer, and people complained about Scorpion after his gameplay trailer. Them fighting differently doesn't redeem the character.

And all five primary Green Lanterns use radically different expressions of the Green Lantern power ring because it has so many possible applications. As I said, it performs based on imagination, and imagination can come up with literally anything. That means you could fill an entire roster on a fighting game with -just- Green Lanterns and they could all fight 100% differently.

But unless they literally change -everything- about Zod and Power Girl, there is just virtually no way to make them -both- play completely differently.

From what I see, most people have zero problem with Zod or Power Girl as characters, but three Kryptonians, who all have the exact same abilities, are ultimately going to be beyond similar.

Zod has vague hope, if you go sort of Lex Luthor with him and give him a mixture of Kryptonian powers and tech skills, but even that's sort of reaching since he generally only goes with armor at most, and usually less. It also doesn't give Power Girl any more versatility.

And I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they find a respectable, satisfying, and unique way to give these three characters completely different movesets while still feeling like them... I just don't see it happening, especially after Ed Boon proving he makes poor decisions by putting Scorpion in there despite the -horrid- reaction it got from fans clear back before Lobo was even released. He's clearly trying to please himself, not the fans.

[Eric Coldfire]

Poeden

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

Eric Coldfire

Poeden

With Scorpion coming out (bad character choice, but admittedly a cool look)... the first leak is pretty much set in stone as far as I'm concerned... which means... Zod is next. And since that leak proved so stunningly accurate, and given the choices of the 'second leak'... that leak is starting to seem more certain. Which would mean Power Girl.

...Which means three Kryptonians...

Now, tell me honest. How differently do you believe THREE Kryptonians can possibly perform from each other? Yes, there are different ways to apply these powers... but ultimately all three have the same abilities. Flight, heat vision, some form of super breath, and the standard 'super' powers.

Do we really need a repeat of Brawl's Fox/Falco/Wolf?

I answer your question with my own.

How different did you expect Sinestro to play compared to Green Lantern? How different did you expect Black Adam to play compared to Shazam? How similar did you expect Batgirl to play compared to Batman?

You probably thought they would be total wasted spots on the roster, but they all play different and have their own flare to their "clones".

Superman lacks in combos but has all of his powers. Maybe Powergirl will focus on maneuverability. With Zod's military background, he may focus on combos more than powers.

When Sinestro was revealed I said "that's stupid he's going to play exactly like Green Lantern just Yellow." And he plays totally different.

When Black Adam was revealed I said "he's stupid he has the exact same powers as Shazam, how can he play different?" And low and behold, he plays nothing like Shazam.

So by the time Batgirl was revealed I said "bring her on."

Superman, Zod, and Power Girl all have the exact same powers, minus slight differences in their breath attacks and varying scales of their strengths. They all have the same powers, though, and those powers cannot be varied to any considerable degree... especially not for three different movesets.

I never expected Hal Jordan to perform anything like Sinestro, because they've -never- performed anything like each other in the comics. They have rings with light, and that's where it stops. Lantern Ring powers are based on imagination and emotion. The form they take and the way they perform are radically different from one another. Sinestro has never been one to form jet engines, gatling guns, or vehicles with his ring. He also doesn't use his ring's light for battle constructs as much as Hal does. He prefers manipulation of fear and underhanded tactics.

As for CAPTAIN MARVEL and Black Adam, I know very little about them, but I DO know that lightning can be used in several RADICALLY different formations, to the point where two lighting wielders wasn't even a remote concern for me. Teleportation, dashing, lighting strikes from above, lightning strikes straight across, magnetism, static fields, force fields, lightning constructs... and not to mention all the various physical enhancements. There was no way Captain Marvel and Shazam were going to perform remotely the same outside of both using lightning.

As for Batgirl... she's known for using blades and other physical weapons, not to mention being as much like Catwoman as she is like Batman. It wouldn't really be accurate to expect her to fight like a Bat clone.

But how do you make flight, basic super traits, laser eyes, and super breath considerably different from each other? At most, slightly different approaches, speeds, damage ratings, and animations. They'll still inevitably be about the same as one another.

Well Injustice found a way to explain how Joker can smack Doomsday with a crowbar and send him hurdling through a building.

I am confident that Injustice can make Power Girl, General Zod play not only different to eachother but to Superman as well.

It would be like saying Hal Jordan, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, and John Steward are no different to eachother because they're all Human Green Lanterns. Yet they're nothing alike.

I believe when Zod and PG are revealed everyone will b***h and moan "this character is stupid, why are they here" and then they will watch their gameplay videos and will respond "wow this character is awesome, I can't wait to play them".

"All will be Well."

Uh... people complained about Batgirl after seeing her gameplay trailer, and people complained about Scorpion after his gameplay trailer. Them fighting differently doesn't redeem the character.

And all five primary Green Lanterns use radically different expressions of the Green Lantern power ring because it has so many possible applications. As I said, it performs based on imagination, and imagination can come up with literally anything. That means you could fill an entire roster on a fighting game with -just- Green Lanterns and they could all fight 100% differently.

But unless they literally change -everything- about Zod and Power Girl, there is just virtually no way to make them -both- play completely differently.

From what I see, most people have zero problem with Zod or Power Girl as characters, but three Kryptonians, who all have the exact same abilities, are ultimately going to be beyond similar.

Zod has vague hope, if you go sort of Lex Luthor with him and give him a mixture of Kryptonian powers and tech skills, but even that's sort of reaching since he generally only goes with armor at most, and usually less. It also doesn't give Power Girl any more versatility.

And I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they find a respectable, satisfying, and unique way to give these three characters completely different movesets while still feeling like them... I just don't see it happening, especially after Ed Boon proving he makes poor decisions by putting Scorpion in there despite the -horrid- reaction it got from fans clear back before Lobo was even released. He's clearly trying to please himself, not the fans.

If Scorpion proves anything it proves how stupid many of Injustice haters are and he'll hopefully clear the air for the real fans of the game who will include fans of DC/MK/and fighting games. They say this is for "DC comic fans only", yet they keep asking for skins from the live action movies "Christopher Reeves Superman, Adam West/Keaton/Bale Batman, Anna Hathaway/Michael Phiffer Catwoman, Heath Ledger/Jack Nicolson Joker, Tom Hardy Bane."

They complain that Batman is hogging the roster when Batgirl was announced, yet people are (still) demanding Red Hood even though people hate Deathstroke because unskilled players spam his guns (guess what Red Hood uses). Along with other Batman rogues including Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Riddler, Ras alGhul, and Robin.

When The "Teen Titan" skin pack was released everyone complained "why is Cyborg red?" "why isn't Raven pale?" "that looks nothing like Slade." "where is the Robin skin for Nightwing?" "why not add all the Teen Titans (aka add Beast Boy and Starfire)?"

They ask constantly if every newly revealed or released skin pack is included in the Season Pass. When they realize they have to pay for the developer's work (a bank draining $6 at most), they throw a fit about being ripped off. When the Season Pass was released, people bought it because they thought it had to contain the 4 characters they wanted and no one else, and with Lobo, Batgirl, and Scorpion confirmed, they're throwing tantrums in every comment section related to Injustice.

People are surprised about Scorpion and are throwing tantrums yet not one person complained about Kratos and Freddy in MK9. In fact many fighting games today include a guest character from another series in some form or another. Considering that its NRS, I'm surprised they waited this long to reveal Scorpion.

By adding Scorpion he is redeeming both MK and DC after their failed crossover and returning the trust DC showed him by letting NRS design the characters of Injustice instead of just being handed approved costumes by DC. They could have easily just popped Scorpion from MK9 into Injustice and been like "whatever", yet they went through the trouble of getting one of DC's best artists to redesign him from scratch and remodeled his moves to fit the 3 button combo and even gave him the Injustice treatment of Character Power, Supermove, intro/outro, Clash Banter, and a new throw.

If Ed Boon had his way, I'm fairly certain most of the villain roster would include Zoom, Captain Cold, Mirror Master, and Captain Boomerange with Boon being a huge Flash fan. Just like if any DC fan got a hold of Injustice they would toss their favorite characters in because that's who they want. People need to remember that the developers at NRS are DC fans too and have characters they want in.

[Necrodancer Ghost]

Where were you when Freddy and Kratos were announced for MK9? I heard plenty of bitching about both. I personally don't like guest characters(Hell, I like Assassin's Creed and I still didn't like the idea of Ezio being in Soulcalibur), but then I don't plan on buying Scorpion so that won't really affect me outside of the fact that I'd rather have another DC character in his place. Mortal Kombat is a game I care very little about, and I care about Scorpion even less. The only character I've ever even remotely cared about in that series is Kenshi.

Anyone who suggested Red Hood should be in the game should be shot, castrated, and crucified in no particular order. I'd rather have the Ten-Eyed Man than Red Hood; he's a more interesting character.

If you didn't catch that, I just called Red Hood one of the worst Batman-related characters ever made.

I just want Ambush Bug. Give me Ambush Bug and I'll be happy. Or Animal Man.

[TigerDriver-Chan]

Whelp Scorpion is out now and he plays fantastically. Walk speed is a little slow but his dash makes up for it. So his approach is a little unsafe but you can mix it up and get damage with EX teleport.
I will admit I am not looking forward to Zod if he is to be the 4th DLC character. Even a second kryptonian is a bad idea I think, with Superman being the template and he dominates the A+ tier listings.
Maybe it is just the fact that I am not a big Zod fan (Or a superman fan in general, he is too much of a boyscout for my liking). He could play a completely different way to superman like how Batman and Batgirl play but I am not crossing my fingers if they are to use the same template and to mix the moves around a bit. I can see him being a strange cross between Superman and maybe Ares by being a bit more of a mid screen powerhouse. if they are going to do it, I would like to see a grounded character, no airdash. An angled up eye laser like superman's forward eye laser making it a good answer to jumping characters. More close quarters fight style and maybe a airgrab. I think zod should be a strong character and made for locking down the opponent and forcing them into the corner.

As for the second season of DLC I am a little on the fence as to what will happen. Ed Boon already said on twitter the Sub Zero is not happening. I think the polls will decide a bit. I also think Power Girl doesn't belong in the game, I like her but she doesn't belong I think. They do need to work with different members of the cast and I think that is why they need to solicit ideas from professionals of the FGC to decide on what he game needs and to work backwards from there. Otherwise the DLC decisions turn into a popularity contest and trending superheroes tend to fight the same.

There are so many characters that will fight in a completely different way and would be great to see and play with, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Atrocitus (Red Lanterns would play nothing like the other two), O.M.A.C. (Because they seem to have this New 52 hard on). s**t if they wanted an otherworld guest bring in someone from the Watchmen or something I dunno. There is so much more potential out there for things to play well and it will go to waste if they let popularity contests decide who gets in rather than something that would fit the description of what they could have in a fighting game.

Something I hear about a lot from friends that play injustice is that though out many games they have had serious problems settling down with a character but Injustice has had the kind of variety in the game to be able to fit a lot of people. It will be a shame if they fall short now and cave into making s**t popular instead of good

[GrayFox7]

I said it once and I'll say it again, I actually wanted Scorpion to be in this game. If there was a guest character that I'd expect/want, it would be him.

Though I'm mainly surprised that they decided to make him the 3rd DLC character instead of the 4th like they did with Freddy in MK9.