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LtL_GUk
I think that under the instance of rape, a woman should be able to choose to have an abortion, it wasn'[t their fault
But the white trash women handing it out,
I'm for and against it on some levels
Against, just so they don't get rid of it to go out the next night and get knocked up again
For it, it'll at least thin out the numbers of these people
A little insensitive?
I know....
I wish I could be more sympathetic, I really do, but, these "humans" make it so hard sometimes.
Looking at how things are going, the aborted ones will not have to face he cruel future.
I regard them as lucky on SOME levels.
I'm not a heartless b*****d like most people think I am.
I can love, it's because of that, that I don't want to do anything to hurt my girlfriend, I don't want her to face the descision:
A.)keep a baby, and lose all hope for the bright future she has
or
B.)give up the life and have that hanging over her head


So...if the sex isn't a woman's 'fault' your fine with it, but you'd rather that someone who is careless about sex pump out babies? Priorities much? Not to mention a double standard.
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Yes, that is what it was created for. Or for rape when the woman probly didn't have protection and might not be on birth control.


I'm sorry, but what? This comment has made my jaw drop. You really expect a woman about to be raped go, "Woah, there. Wait a second. You got a rubber?"


That's not what I meant. She needed it cause of that. The point was, rapers don't use protection obviously since they don't even care about that person in the first place so she could very well become pregnant and the morning after pill was created or things like that that has happen

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LtL_GUk
I think that under the instance of rape, a woman should be able to choose to have an abortion, it wasn'[t their fault
But the white trash women handing it out,
I'm for and against it on some levels
Against, just so they don't get rid of it to go out the next night and get knocked up again
For it, it'll at least thin out the numbers of these people
A little insensitive?
I know....
I wish I could be more sympathetic, I really do, but, these "humans" make it so hard sometimes.
Looking at how things are going, the aborted ones will not have to face he cruel future.
I regard them as lucky on SOME levels.
I'm not a heartless b*****d like most people think I am.
I can love, it's because of that, that I don't want to do anything to hurt my girlfriend, I don't want her to face the descision:
A.)keep a baby, and lose all hope for the bright future she has
or
B.)give up the life and have that hanging over her head


If a woman would much rather get a 500$ abortion than a 5$ box of condoms, do you really trust her with a child?
KraZGurl
LtL_GUk
I think that under the instance of rape, a woman should be able to choose to have an abortion, it wasn'[t their fault
But the white trash women handing it out,
I'm for and against it on some levels
Against, just so they don't get rid of it to go out the next night and get knocked up again
For it, it'll at least thin out the numbers of these people
A little insensitive?
I know....
I wish I could be more sympathetic, I really do, but, these "humans" make it so hard sometimes.
Looking at how things are going, the aborted ones will not have to face he cruel future.
I regard them as lucky on SOME levels.
I'm not a heartless b*****d like most people think I am.
I can love, it's because of that, that I don't want to do anything to hurt my girlfriend, I don't want her to face the descision:
A.)keep a baby, and lose all hope for the bright future she has
or
B.)give up the life and have that hanging over her head


If a woman would much rather get a 500$ abortion than a 5$ box of condoms, do you really trust her with a child?
um an abortion (depends how far in) can cost at max $2,000 USD and can be free...and sometimes a woman does use a condom, and it breaks...so it is possible

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LtL_GUk
I think that under the instance of rape, a woman should be able to choose to have an abortion, it wasn'[t their fault
But the white trash women handing it out,
I'm for and against it on some levels
Against, just so they don't get rid of it to go out the next night and get knocked up again
For it, it'll at least thin out the numbers of these people
A little insensitive?
I know....
I wish I could be more sympathetic, I really do, but, these "humans" make it so hard sometimes.
Looking at how things are going, the aborted ones will not have to face he cruel future.
I regard them as lucky on SOME levels.
I'm not a heartless b*****d like most people think I am.
I can love, it's because of that, that I don't want to do anything to hurt my girlfriend, I don't want her to face the descision:
A.)keep a baby, and lose all hope for the bright future she has
or
B.)give up the life and have that hanging over her head


If a woman would much rather get a 500$ abortion than a 5$ box of condoms, do you really trust her with a child?
um an abortion (depends how far in) can cost at max $2,000 USD and can be free...and sometimes a woman does use a condom, and it breaks...so it is possible


I'm talking about his white trash comment, and I understand that it can cost up to 2000$... but most abortions cost between 400-700$, I believe.
KraZGurl
If a woman would much rather get a 500$ abortion than a 5$ box of condoms, do you really trust her with a child?

What if she paid for both? What a concept. Condoms are not fool/fail-proof, you know.

Edit: Er, I assumed you to be pro-life. I don't know what you are. That's what I get for jumping in at random times.
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I. You are here.
Yeah I'm here. And soon I will add wonders to society. If I was aborted then what. What if the President was aborted? Would we have a worse one?

Potential = bullshit in this debate.
The fetus being aborted has just of much chance of being the next Mother Teresa as it does to be the next Hitler. Most likley, it will just be the average, everyday Joe or Jane Smith who doesn't contribute much of great importance to the world.
If my mother had an abortion, I wouldn't have cared. I'd have felt nothing, and in my belief system, reincarnation exists. I'd rather be born to a mother who wants me than to a mother who doesn't. My mother wanted me but if she hadn't, I wouldn't have cared. It was her choice.

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II. Terminology
No matter what word is used for abortion, its still Murder. Lets just change abortion to murder. I wonder if the definition of it in the dictionary is murder? lemme check....it's not. Darn.
III. What is Abortion?
Murder

"Murder" is a legal definition. It is a legal definition which abortion fails to meet the requirements of.

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IV. What does it mean to be "A Human Being"?
It means... I'm not going to answer that, that's a dumb question that people only think about if they have no life. (Sorry peeps)

Funny because, you know, that is why the debate exists to begin with. You've just proven that you don't belong here.

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V. Pro-Life Argument from Potential
I think its funny how people group the supporters and nonsupporters with special names.
VI. The Rape Exception
I think the girl got pregnant for a reason, unfortunate yes, but what if that child is meant for something great. Or will make a difference in the lives of many. Or simply live to say "MY MOM WAS RAPED AND SHE DIDN'T MURDER ME. IS THAT LOVE OR WHAT!"

Abortion isn't murder. Sorry.
Potential means s**t. This has already been established.

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VII. Facing The Consequences of Your Actions - The Punishment Mentality
Maybe you would view it as a punishment for a little bit, but then maybe you'd look forward to a child. But if you're young and still in school, gosh. I'm sorry. If you get an abortion you are weak.

What I could think later doesn't matter. What matters is the here and now. I am pregnant, and I don't want to be. Seeing as I am childfree, my body would be severely damaged from giving birth (as in... I'd probably die), and I am not emotionally equipped for pregnancy (I'd be resorting back to cutting and suicide attempts)... let's say that "pweshus gift" would not be so precious to me, 'kay?

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VIII. Women's rights, a Legal view.
GIVE ME A BREAK. What about the man's rights?! What if the boyfriend or whomever wanted to keep the baby. Could he sue her?

Unless it's in his uterus, his say is minimal.

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IX. The Father's Rights.
It's his baby too. If the mom doesn't support the abortion and the dad does, he shouldn't force her. That'd be calls for break up.

If he truly loved her, he'd respect her decision and realize that her body is her body.

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X. Adoption.
If you REALLY don't want it, pregnancy won't screw your life up forever. In a few months you're back to normal. If you adopt it out to a loving family it will have a better life.

Adoption = solution to unwanted parenting.
Abortion = solution to unwanted pregnancy.
Don't let the fact that both words start with a "p" confuse you. Not being willing and able to deal with parenting is far different than not being willing to deal with pregnancy.

Most adoptive parents are racist and also aren't open to children with disabilities. Most parents are white and Christian, and want a child that is the same and has no special needs. If a woman were to have a baby that was non-white, its chances of being adopted are minimal. If she had a white baby, that lessens the chance of a non-white baby being adopted even more. If it's born disabled, well, than that lessens its chances again. Then, there's the fact that these parents want babies. For every newborn that's adopted, that's one less set of parents willing to adopt the 11 year old who's been sitting been sitting in the system all his life. In summary, until I see more sets of parents who are willing to adopt a black 8-year-old girl who is mentally retarded, I do not trust the adoption system.

Adoption also means that a woman has to go through all the physical, mental, and emotion aspects of a pregnancy. And, in case you are clueless, delivering a baby is not the same as having a bowel movement. As someone who frequently watches babies being delivered on television as well as someone who is a friend of a nurse, I can tell you that giving birth is one of the most painful-looking/-sounding and frightening experieneces I have ever seen and heard of people going through. The ratio of deaths from giving birth as compared to the ratio of death from getting an abortion is 11-1. I rest my case.

The third major problem I have with adoption is the same as a problem surrogate mothers have. Once the baby is born, and the mother and baby look into each other's eyes, a natural bond is formed. This makes the person who birthed the child handing it to someone else to care for extremely difficult mentally and emotionally.

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XI. The Purpose of Sex.
The purpose of sex was a gift from God

What "god" do you speak of?

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for two people (of opposite sex!!!)

Love how you added that in. I'm bisexual, I'll have sex with other women, there's nothing you can do about it, and it's not against my religious beliefs.

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to enjoy themselves. To make babies too, when you feel ready, and are hopefully married.

"Feel ready"? I'm childfree, so don't assume I'll ever be "ready".


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XII. Fetal Ability.
I call them babies right from the start.

I can call an apple a "tomoyaga" if I want to. That doesn't make it what it is.

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KraZGurl
If a woman would much rather get a 500$ abortion than a 5$ box of condoms, do you really trust her with a child?

What if she paid for both? What a concept. Condoms are not fool/fail-proof, you know.

Edit: Er, I assumed you to be pro-life. I don't know what you are. That's what I get for jumping in at random times.


I'm pro-choice fully. And I believe that, even if a woman gets alot of abortions, that she should still be able to get them. Besides, I wouldn't trust a woman to waste 500$ on abortions than invest 5$ in condoms with a born child if she were forced to birth it.

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