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Mr. Schnarkel Parkel
I think I got a pro-life argument.

It's not murder if someone killed someone else without malicious intent, right? So, what if someone killed a 30 year old person and didn't have malicious intent, like he just felt like it. Does that make it okay?


Tecnically speaking, it'd still be murder; it's illegally killing someone. And 'Because he felt like it' could be interperted as 'malicious' by some people.

The only way for it to not be illegal (in some states) is for it to be Self-defence.

The fetus is threatining my life, and my livelyhood. I can kill it; it's self-defence.


Yes that would be but to abort because you don't want it or want to be pregnant isn't self-dense, sounds pretty malious to me.
honestly, you don't kill something for living it doesn't matter if it's an accident or it's not your fault it's there. It's life and it's there for a reason give it a chance to live before it dies.
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If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


Can I get a link to what it is?

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sachiko_sohma
Yes that would be but to abort because you don't want it or want to be pregnant isn't self-dense, sounds pretty malious to me.


Every pregnancy is threating the life and lively hood of the woman. Why? Because there is a chance of you dying because of every pregnacny (some less likely then others), and every pregnancy/child outcome is uber-expensive, and thus threatinging my way of life.

And, it's the desire to stop the pregnancy, not to kill the fetus. Women don't get pregnant just to kill the resulting fetus, you know.
[I am teh Haruka]
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


Can I get a link to what it is?


http://www.go2planb.com/ForConsumers/Index.aspx

We sell a lot of it where I work.
sachiko_sohma
Mistress DragonFlame
Mr. Schnarkel Parkel
I think I got a pro-life argument.

It's not murder if someone killed someone else without malicious intent, right? So, what if someone killed a 30 year old person and didn't have malicious intent, like he just felt like it. Does that make it okay?


Tecnically speaking, it'd still be murder; it's illegally killing someone. And 'Because he felt like it' could be interperted as 'malicious' by some people.

The only way for it to not be illegal (in some states) is for it to be Self-defence.

The fetus is threatining my life, and my livelyhood. I can kill it; it's self-defence.

Yes that would be but to abort because you don't want it or want to be pregnant isn't self-dense, sounds pretty malious to me.
Actually, being pregnant does harm you, emotionally, physically, and financially.

These are the normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

-- exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
-- altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
-- nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
-- heartburn and indigestion
-- constipation
-- weight gain
-- dizziness and light-headedness
-- bloating, swelling, fluid retention
-- hemorrhoids
-- abdominal cramps
-- yeast infections
-- congested, bloody nose
-- acne and mild skin disorders
-- skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
-- mild to severe backache and strain
-- increased headaches
-- difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
-- increased urination and incontinence
-- bleeding gums
-- pica
-- breast pain and discharge
-- swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
-- difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
-- inability to take regular medications
-- shortness of breath
-- higher blood pressure
-- hair loss
-- tendency to anemia
-- curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
-- infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
-- extreme pain on delivery
-- hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
-- continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

These are the normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

-- stretch marks (worse in younger women)
-- loose skin
-- permanent weight gain or redistribution
-- abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
-- pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
-- changes to breasts
-- varicose veins
-- scarring from episiotomy or c-section
-- other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
-- increased proclivity for hemorrhoids
-- loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)

These are the occasional complications and side effects:

-- hyperemesis gravidarum
-- temporary and permanent injury to back
-- severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies)
-- dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
-- pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
-- eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
-- gestational diabetes
-- placenta previa
-- anemia (which can be life-threatening)
-- thrombocytopenic purpura
-- severe cramping
-- embolism (blood clots)
-- medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
-- diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
-- mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
-- serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
-- hormonal imbalance
-- ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
-- broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone" wink
-- hemorrhage and
-- numerous other complications of delivery
-- refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
-- aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
-- severe post-partum depression and psychosis
-- research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
-- research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
-- research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

These are some less common (but serious) complications:

-- peripartum cardiomyopathy
-- cardiopulmonary arrest
-- magnesium toxicity
-- severe hypoxemia/acidosis
-- massive embolism
-- increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
-- molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
-- malignant arrhythmia
-- circulatory collapse
-- placental abruption
-- obstetric fistula

And a few more permanent side effects:

-- future infertility
-- permanent disability
-- death.
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.



All they would have to do is go to a local clinic, I don't you want it to be over the counter though. If it was, people would think it would be o.k. to use all the time and can mess their bodies up. It's a powerful drug that contains alot of hormones.
Crystallyne Vixen
[I am teh Haruka]
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


Can I get a link to what it is?


http://www.go2planb.com/ForConsumers/Index.aspx

We sell a lot of it where I work.


Thanks, but does it actually work?

What about side effects?
sachiko_sohma
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


All they would have to do is go to a local clinic, I don't you want it to be over the counter though. If it was, people would think it would be o.k. to use all the time and can mess their bodies up. It's a powerful drug that contains alot of hormones.


You don't want people to get abortions and you don't want them to use that drug?

What do you want them to do?
[I am teh Haruka]
Crystallyne Vixen
[I am teh Haruka]
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


Can I get a link to what it is?


http://www.go2planb.com/ForConsumers/Index.aspx

We sell a lot of it where I work.


Thanks, but does it actually work?

What about side effects?
It's basically just an overdose of normal birth control. It's not an abortion pill as many think. I don't know a whole lot about it. I'll check it out on my pocket pc where I keep my drug information. Gimme a sec.
sachiko_sohma
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.



All they would have to do is go to a local clinic, I don't you want it to be over the counter though. If it was, people would think it would be o.k. to use all the time and can mess their bodies up. It's a powerful drug that contains alot of hormones.


At least it ain't steroids. At least it ain't a lot of BAD things.

Is anyone else beside me completely annoyed by the new layout?
Crystallyne Vixen
[I am teh Haruka]
Crystallyne Vixen
[I am teh Haruka]
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


Can I get a link to what it is?


http://www.go2planb.com/ForConsumers/Index.aspx

We sell a lot of it where I work.


Thanks, but does it actually work?

What about side effects?
It's basically just an overdose of normal birth control. It's not an abortion pill as many think. I don't know a whole lot about it. I'll check it out on my pocket pc where I keep my drug information. Gimme a sec.


If you really want to. I was just wondering though.
[I am teh Haruka]
sachiko_sohma
Chestra
If you are raped or had unprotected sex get plan B it's a drug that or take within 3 days after intercourse it stops fertilization preventing pregnancy not killing it. This product is not availabble over counter yet we need to fight for it.


All they would have to do is go to a local clinic, I don't you want it to be over the counter though. If it was, people would think it would be o.k. to use all the time and can mess their bodies up. It's a powerful drug that contains alot of hormones.


You don't want people to get abortions and you don't want them to use that drug?

What do you want them to do?


No, but don't want people to mess up their bodies either by taking it all the time, which is why it's not over the counter.

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