Teaching of Evolution (your thoughts?)

Do you agree evolution should be taught?

yes	67.3%	[ 1018 ]
no	13.2%	[ 199 ]
I'm not sure.. but I want gold :3	19.5%	[ 295 ]
Total Votes:			[ 1512 ]

[itstime808]

how anm i suppose 2 become edumacated

[chibi-faolan]

linaloki

Kiasnikov

Someone who's religious, please tell me why you think evolution is wrong or bad, or how it is against your religion.

Okay. I'm religious in the Christian sense.

Why evolution is wrong and how it disagrees with our religion:

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Well, I think the answer has something to do with a jar of peanut butter and a complete lack of understanding about evolution AND creation...

Oh, that reminds me... I've got an article from yesterday's newspaper:

ConAgra Foods said Thursday that moisture from a leaky roof and a faulty sprinkler helped salmonella grow and contaminate peanut butter at its Georgia plant last year, which resulted in more than 400 reported cases of salmonella poisoning.

So... if the dude who didn't know what evolution was had opened a jar of that peanut butter, he'd have found exactly what he was looking for!

[Jinkerbell]

"Why aren't j00 teachin' me in skool?!"

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I've yet to see someone argue against evolution education in school and not get their a** handed to them. Kind of lame...

[VoijaRisa]

jesusluvsmethisiknow

i believe... that evolution is a kind of religion itself.

In that case, your beliefs are flat out wrong. Religion relies on mystical revelation and dogma. Evolution comes from science which has neither.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

we do learn creationism in like seventh grade

This is illegal in the US as decided in Edwards v. Aguillard in 1987.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

it would not violate the separation of church and state, because they arent yelling at you, they arent forcing this belief into you.

Evolution isn't a a religious belief. So it's fine for the government to tell us that this is how it happened. Meanwhile, creationism is religion. Thus, the government cannot tell us that this is in any way factual.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

if evolution is already proven, why are their so many debates in politics about it?

Because ~50% of America isnt' educated enough to accept it. It's a political sham of a debate. Not a scientific one.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

notice also how nobody is informed about darwin on his death bed. NO IM NOT GUNNA TRY TO CITE THIS STATEMENT.. ive heard from many ppl (which i know you readers will argue with) that darwin sayed on his death bed that he made it up so he could be accepted to the colleges of his choice.

Well, unlike you, I can cite my sources: Darwin Did Not Recant!

jesusluvsmethisiknow

i understand that parents would not want their children to believe in creationism if the parents are aethiests,

You make the assumption that anyone that accepts evolution is an atheist. This is wrong.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

what am i supposed to think when teachers are telling me that no matter what i was taught, i am wrong? separation of church and state is good for aethiests but very degrading for christians.

Because you are wrong. Creationism is directly contradicted by observations. God did not poof man into existance in his present form. That is not to say that God does not exist, but rather, that his methods of creation are far grander than hocus pocus.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

im just saying that students like me are being taught against their religion, which is bound to happen anyway, and the govt says its perfectly fine. if someone walked into your church and yelled "everyone here is all wrong" wouldnt you be offended?

But you're not being taught against your religion. It's entirely possible to accept both God and evolution. See the links I provided earlier.

[thewhitejag]

first of all i think unless its a private school it would be illegal seperation of church and state and all. but also i dont agree with it not being taught why not give children the options of deciding what they believe in? my personal belief is that both can coinside because yes god may have built the world in seven of his days but who know how long one of gods days are? one day could be a million years.

[Shokushu]

Felix Frost

its not even a matter of "both sides" because if you are going to argue that they should teach creationism then you should include every single creation story that has ever existed... I mean its not just atheists vs christians here.

You're right but they're not willing to address anyone else because they think evolution is an atheist thing. They've never imagined that a Hindu person would have a reason to push evolution- they probably can't imagine that actually.

jesusluvsmethisiknow

look, im just saying that students like me are being taught against their religion, which is bound to happen anyway, and the govt says its perfectly fine. if someone walked into your church and yelled "everyone here is all wrong" wouldnt you be offended?

So then what about all of the students you'd be telling were wrong if we taught Christian creationism in schools but no other groups' creation ideas?
They'd be being told that their beliefs aren't even a choice anyone with an education would make- that Christianity and evolution are the only choices that have merit.
I'd prefer we just keep teaching evolution in science classes because it's the scientific option and students ought to understand that only science goes in science classrooms.

And no, I don't think you had teachers that told you that evolution was RIGHT and that creationism was WRONG. I think you decided that they were saying that when they weren't.

[RockLeesGirl]

This is an unusual paragraph. I'm curious how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it? It looks so plain you would think nothing was wrong with it! In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is unusual though. Study it, and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. But if you work at it a bit, you might find out! Try to do so without any coaching!

Guess this riddle without reading the answer. If you think you got the answer PM me. I want to see how many people can get it right.

No e's in it.

thewhitejag

first of all i think unless its a private school it would be illegal seperation of church and state and all. but also i dont agree with it not being taught why not give children the options of deciding what they believe in? my personal belief is that both can coinside because yes god may have built the world in seven of his days but who know how long one of gods days are? one day could be a million years.

How exactly do they not already have a choice?

[Ame Firestorm]

If evolution should be taught as one theory, not the only theory. There are other theorys as well, including creationism

[Beyond_Oblivion]

Ammie Richardson

If evolution should be taught as one theory, not the only theory. There are other theorys as well, including creationism

There are not other scientific theories, however. Evolution is falsifiable and based upon observation of the real world. Evolution itself is an observed fact via adaptation and several documented speciation events.

Creationism is non falsifiable and thus not science and thus not a scientific theory and should thus remain outside of science.

[Doctor Scientist]

jesusluvsmethisiknow

Shokushu

jesusluvsmethisiknow

Felix Frost

ErosSirraf

I dont think evolution should be taught in school

why?

if both are taught, it would be easier for someone to make a mature decision. if somebody who was raised in a Christian school with Christian parents in a Christian neighborhood, they would never agree to evolutionism. but what if they understood both sides of the argument? could they not make a fair decision?

So we shouldn't allow parents to have their children attend whatever church until a certain age when we introduce them to their parents' religion(s) as well as evolution and let them make a choice as to which they like more?

look, im just saying that students like me are being taught against their religion, which is bound to happen anyway, and the govt says its perfectly fine. if someone walked into your church and yelled "everyone here is all wrong" wouldnt you be offended?

So you're saying that it would be awful to give them a choice in church but we should have someone butt in and yel that everything they are learning is wrong in the schools?

Hey, how about we give them more choices in the womb too!
"Gimme that umbilical cord! You think that's oxygen you're getting!? No! It's poison!
err, well, I guess I'm supposed to let you choose between rejecting the poison or having your umbilical cord back... uh, well, you're not really developed enough to choose one way or another but I think I know the answer you'd choose. Let me just snip this thing off- ah- there we go.
Pleasure doing business with you."

[Ultimastrife]

I kind of think the whole discussion is ridiculous. But that's not too important. What is mildly interesting is that a school system in the midwest recently banned all pokemon related products from their schools because they promoted the idea of evolution.

I think that even creationists will see that as ridiculous.

[hfhhjdsjkdkjdas]

thewhitejag

first of all i think unless its a private school it would be illegal seperation of church and state and all. but also i dont agree with it not being taught why not give children the options of deciding what they believe in? my personal belief is that both can coinside because yes god may have built the world in seven of his days but who know how long one of gods days are? one day could be a million years.

Do you know how many different theories you could theoretically teach about this?

Are you suggesting we teach them all?

[Shokushu]

Vapris Vite

thewhitejag

first of all i think unless its a private school it would be illegal seperation of church and state and all. but also i dont agree with it not being taught why not give children the options of deciding what they believe in? my personal belief is that both can coinside because yes god may have built the world in seven of his days but who know how long one of gods days are? one day could be a million years.

Do you know how many different theories you could theoretically teach about this?

Are you suggesting we teach them all?

No, he's suggesting that we teach his own idea of how it works but make some terms more vague so that you can't say that it's particularly his brand of it but that when you hear it you get the same idea.
It feels like it's not violating the law but at the same time it ought to massively boost the spread of his ideas. That way everyone can start agreeing with him and not having different, heathenistic beliefs- that they would think anything opposed to what he does is sick and obviously needs to be stopped- though that should be done subtly so they don't resist it too much.
After all, nobody else's ideas are really that important. They just don't want to have to deal with an abrupt change. Slowing it down so it's gradual will work for everyone.

the same way with things like trying to kill off a race- they don't like being killed like that idiot Hitler tried to do but if you just sterilize them and let them adopt children it will work great. They won't even have to raise ugly babies!

(for the intellectually impaired my point here is that this line of thinking doesn't seem that awful when you just ask for small things with it like having your religion taught but that this same line of thinking is obviously horrendous on a larger scale. What I don't see is how just doing it a little is any better than just cheating on a spouse a little- a little or a lot it's still wrong.
The ideal response from anyone who found the above to be an offensive and unfair portrayal of why they want creation put in schools would be to explain how this isn't just the same idea thinking on larger scales- though if you're going to go that route you've got yur work cut out for you, what with trying to convince people of something contrary to reality, but then again I guess you're used to that.)

[S4NG0]

i think that the schools should teach it bc if they dont its not going to give people a choice on what to believe in and also a lot of people want to fingure out how everything came and if one theory is taken away then its like they are trying to push believes on the students that they may not agree with so why do that when it give sudents a choise and some independance from what ppl think