Rape prevention is a woman's responsibility. ( a few tips)

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Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Boxknight Jace

xxSoviet Ghost

Boxknight Jace

xmiss_ann_thropex

True but I think what the OP is getting at is that the victims don't realize that they need to take responsibility as well. Obviously the rapist is responsible for most of the actions; however, some victims don't realize that, by putting themselves in that kind of position, they're to blame as well.

Do you really mean that? The victim is responsible for something done to her because the circumstance wasn't the best? Say she's drunk, and she accepts a walk home from an acquaintance. He's a friend of a friend, and she'd been flirting with him. He doesn't take "good night" as an answer, so because she let him walk her home alone she has to take part of the blame? Explain how this makes sense.

She didn't HAVE to get drunk. If she wasn't drunk, then more likely then not, she would have better judgment about the situation, and probably travel home with someone she trusts more often.

In essence, it was slightly the victim's fault for putting themselves in that spot.

So because she got herself drunk, getting raped was her fault? I don't follow. Drinking is a common social activity. Drinking too much isn't recommended, but it doesn't mean that she can be blamed for getting raped.

whoa, whoa, whoa. You misunderstood what I said. I said it was slightly the victim's fault. I never said it was completely the victim's fault. The perpetrator is just as at fault, but the victim isn't entirely left out of the blame game.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions, it's ridiculous, not even "slighty" and certainly not "just as".
Worse, that kind of thinking can have horrible consequences on rape victims.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions?

So...all those people who go to jail for a crime they didn't commit don't exist?

[Zilodarpe]

Mr. Morrison

Drucilia_Iscariot

Anakha the Silver

Sgt.Steel

Imagine you take it to court, and they ask you one simple question.

"Did you communicate to the client, that you did not wish to engage in intercourse?"

If you never said anything, Your case goes out the window.

So, because he's holding a knife to your neck, which you can't prove as there are no marks, to keep you from communicating in any way, even if he IS someone you know, you suddenly have no right to cry rape?

Evidence of rape can be reported IMMEDIATLY!! There's more then just mental, it's physical as well (tearing in the walls of the v****a, bleeding, bruising and DNA... sometimes.)

But I know in the state of VA, even if there wasn't verbal concent, it doesn't matter. If a guy forces you to do something you don't want to do, it's still rape.

There isn't always going to be evidence.
It isn't always rough like the media makes it out to be.

That's an enforcement issue. Not a definition issue.

[Siphilis]

xmiss_ann_thropex

AnnaCrackers

So males can get drunk and be fine, but if a girl gets drunk rape is her fault?
s**t, this is the most sexist thing I've ever heard.

Sexist against my own sex. Makes sense.

Uh, yeah. That happens.

[Zilodarpe]

xxSoviet Ghost

Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Boxknight Jace

xxSoviet Ghost

She didn't HAVE to get drunk. If she wasn't drunk, then more likely then not, she would have better judgment about the situation, and probably travel home with someone she trusts more often.

In essence, it was slightly the victim's fault for putting themselves in that spot.

So because she got herself drunk, getting raped was her fault? I don't follow. Drinking is a common social activity. Drinking too much isn't recommended, but it doesn't mean that she can be blamed for getting raped.

whoa, whoa, whoa. You misunderstood what I said. I said it was slightly the victim's fault. I never said it was completely the victim's fault. The perpetrator is just as at fault, but the victim isn't entirely left out of the blame game.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions, it's ridiculous, not even "slighty" and certainly not "just as".
Worse, that kind of thinking can have horrible consequences on rape victims.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions?

So...all those people who go to jail for a crime they didn't commit don't exist?

That ain't about blaming them fer someone else's actions. That's about bein' wrong in figgering out who done the acting.

[Mr. Morrison]

xmiss_ann_thropex

Mr. Morrison

If they want to be a tease, then that's fine.
There is no way to justify rape, no matter how much a girl supposedly led some guy on.

I AM IN NO WAY JUSTIFYING RAPE.

I'm simply saying that just because the rapist was wrong doesn't mean that the victim is automatically scotch free. It's PARTLY their fault for insinuating a situation, fully knowing there are those kind of people out there.

I am fully aware that there are ***** out there.
If I take my kid to the park, and for whatever reason, they are suddenly molested.
It's not only the ***** fault, but partially mine for going out in the world knowing there are ***** out there?
Riiiiight.

[Aniconda]

Zilodarpe

xmiss_ann_thropex

The Almighty Spoot

Oh ******** bullshit. I could walk down the street with a bag full of cash out in the open. It is ENTIRELY the fault of anybody who tries to steal it. No means no.

But WHY would you do that? The point is, there are bad people in this world, and, seeing as we can't have a miraculous cure for assholes,

We gotta back the ******** down from 'em, hide in our little cubby holes and make like we're in a safer world.

Way to completely ignore the rest of my argument. But seeing as you're playing that way...

That's the POINT. We CAN'T have a safer world. So why PUT yourself into danger. Preventive actions are necessary in the real world.

[Feyre]

xxSoviet Ghost

Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Boxknight Jace

xxSoviet Ghost

She didn't HAVE to get drunk. If she wasn't drunk, then more likely then not, she would have better judgment about the situation, and probably travel home with someone she trusts more often.

In essence, it was slightly the victim's fault for putting themselves in that spot.

So because she got herself drunk, getting raped was her fault? I don't follow. Drinking is a common social activity. Drinking too much isn't recommended, but it doesn't mean that she can be blamed for getting raped.

whoa, whoa, whoa. You misunderstood what I said. I said it was slightly the victim's fault. I never said it was completely the victim's fault. The perpetrator is just as at fault, but the victim isn't entirely left out of the blame game.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions, it's ridiculous, not even "slighty" and certainly not "just as".
Worse, that kind of thinking can have horrible consequences on rape victims.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions?

So...all those people who go to jail for a crime they didn't commit don't exist?

"Can" can mean "to be permitted to".

[Boxknight Jace]

xxSoviet Ghost

The victim has to share the blame. He/She put themselves in the situation, and look what happens.

If I walk down a dark alley past midnight, and I happen to have things on me that look really expensive, and I get mugged, who would be at fault.

The mugger would be, for mugging me. And I would be also.

I'd hardly call getting drunk on a night out with friends, and accepting a friendly acquaintance's invitation to walk you home as "putting herself in a situation."

If a girl wants to drink with friends, that's her choice. Drinking is not inviting someone to rape you. It's a social activity. Accepting a drink from a stranger, walking on dark streets and all the rest are unwise decisions, but the only person at fault is the person who drugged the drink or saw a lone woman walking and decided to take advantage of that. The rapist is the only one responsible.

xion-dono

I don't think "fault" is the right word. But rather, to help prevent rapes women should be given safety tips to keep themselves out of danger. Not that if they disobey the tips they are at fault for what happens.

It's like learning a martial art to protect yourself. If you don't learn it, it's not your fault you got mugged, but if you do, you could prevent yourself from ever being mugged.

Does that make sense?

Yes.

[Siphilis]

xmiss_ann_thropex

Zilodarpe

xmiss_ann_thropex

The Almighty Spoot

Oh ******** bullshit. I could walk down the street with a bag full of cash out in the open. It is ENTIRELY the fault of anybody who tries to steal it. No means no.

But WHY would you do that? The point is, there are bad people in this world, and, seeing as we can't have a miraculous cure for assholes,

We gotta back the ******** down from 'em, hide in our little cubby holes and make like we're in a safer world.

Way to completely ignore the rest of my argument. But seeing as you're playing that way...

That's the POINT. We CAN'T have a safer world. So why PUT yourself into danger. Preventive actions are necessary in the real world.

Well I guess I better never go outside again gonk

[Aniconda]

Mr. Morrison

xmiss_ann_thropex

Mr. Morrison

If they want to be a tease, then that's fine.
There is no way to justify rape, no matter how much a girl supposedly led some guy on.

I AM IN NO WAY JUSTIFYING RAPE.

I'm simply saying that just because the rapist was wrong doesn't mean that the victim is automatically scotch free. It's PARTLY their fault for insinuating a situation, fully knowing there are those kind of people out there.

I am fully aware that there are ***** out there.
If I take my kid to the park, and for whatever reason, they are suddenly molested.
It's not only the ***** fault, but partially mine for going out in the world knowing there are ***** out there?
Riiiiight.

Why did they get molested in the first place? If you took your kid to the park, I sure as hell hope you're watching them. So yes, it's partially your fault for not watching your own kid.

[Gho the Girl]

Mr. Morrison

xmiss_ann_thropex

Mr. Morrison

If they want to be a tease, then that's fine.
There is no way to justify rape, no matter how much a girl supposedly led some guy on.

I AM IN NO WAY JUSTIFYING RAPE.

I'm simply saying that just because the rapist was wrong doesn't mean that the victim is automatically scotch free. It's PARTLY their fault for insinuating a situation, fully knowing there are those kind of people out there.

I am fully aware that there are ***** out there.
If I take my kid to the park, and for whatever reason, they are suddenly molested.
It's not only the ***** fault, but partially mine for going out in the world knowing there are ***** out there?
Riiiiight.

Nonono, see, it's the KIDS fault. He was supposed to say no to the nice man with candy and comic books. rolleyes

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Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Boxknight Jace

xxSoviet Ghost

She didn't HAVE to get drunk. If she wasn't drunk, then more likely then not, she would have better judgment about the situation, and probably travel home with someone she trusts more often.

In essence, it was slightly the victim's fault for putting themselves in that spot.

So because she got herself drunk, getting raped was her fault? I don't follow. Drinking is a common social activity. Drinking too much isn't recommended, but it doesn't mean that she can be blamed for getting raped.

whoa, whoa, whoa. You misunderstood what I said. I said it was slightly the victim's fault. I never said it was completely the victim's fault. The perpetrator is just as at fault, but the victim isn't entirely left out of the blame game.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions, it's ridiculous, not even "slighty" and certainly not "just as".
Worse, that kind of thinking can have horrible consequences on rape victims.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions?

So...all those people who go to jail for a crime they didn't commit don't exist?

"Can" can mean "to be permitted to".

Look. Random people just don't go out and rape people for the hell of it.

Victims are victims for a reason.

If I run around the house, slip, and skin my knee when I tripped on a toy, is the toy to blame? No. I'm to blame, because I was running around the house.

Victims share as much blame as the rapist him/herself.

[Zilodarpe]

Anakha the Silver

Mr. Morrison

Drucilia_Iscariot

Anakha the Silver

Sgt.Steel

Imagine you take it to court, and they ask you one simple question.

"Did you communicate to the client, that you did not wish to engage in intercourse?"

If you never said anything, Your case goes out the window.

So, because he's holding a knife to your neck, which you can't prove as there are no marks, to keep you from communicating in any way, even if he IS someone you know, you suddenly have no right to cry rape?

Evidence of rape can be reported IMMEDIATLY!! There's more then just mental, it's physical as well (tearing in the walls of the v****a, bleeding, bruising and DNA... sometimes.)

But I know in the state of VA, even if there wasn't verbal concent, it doesn't matter. If a guy forces you to do something you don't want to do, it's still rape.

There isn't always going to be evidence.
It isn't always rough like the media makes it out to be.

Or he can claim you had rough sex and regretted it afterward.

Don't mean that's what really happened. Just means the ******** got away with s**t.

Like if I tie you down and burn the house 'round you. Leavin' no evidence I was there. I still murdered your a**. I just made it look like somethin' else so's I could get away with it.

[20 Shades of Crazy]

xmiss_ann_thropex

True but I think what the OP is getting at is that the victims don't realize that they need to take responsibility as well. Obviously the rapist is responsible for most of the actions; however, some victims don't realize that, by putting themselves in that kind of position, they're to blame as well.

That's a disgusting thing to say. confused

"Because you were around people you knew and trusted, you are to blame for the actions of another person!"
Mm, that makes sense.

[Siphilis]

xxSoviet Ghost

Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

Feyre

xxSoviet Ghost

whoa, whoa, whoa. You misunderstood what I said. I said it was slightly the victim's fault. I never said it was completely the victim's fault. The perpetrator is just as at fault, but the victim isn't entirely left out of the blame game.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions, it's ridiculous, not even "slighty" and certainly not "just as".
Worse, that kind of thinking can have horrible consequences on rape victims.

No one can be blamed for someone else's actions?

So...all those people who go to jail for a crime they didn't commit don't exist?

"Can" can mean "to be permitted to".

Look. Random people just don't go out and rape people for the hell of it.

...Yes they do.