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Fanatical Zealot

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Suicidesoldier#1
foxxykitty27
What you are assuming is that one day we will either understand God or science will reach a point where everything can be explained, thus replacing the "zero" that you are calling God. I believe neither is possible so I can't agree with your comparison.


Or perhaps simply that our existence at all implies the existence of some kind of meaning? ninja

Life's purpose cannot be explained by science or logic. You can't explain to me why this specific speck of dust landed on my shoulder and if there was a reason for it to do so.



Chaos.


Psh



What happens happens, not because it had to, but because it did.
That speck of dust landed on your shoulder because it DID land on your shoulder. This is the plane of reality in which that happened. That's why it happened.



Or was there a purpose, or a guidance, by some higher plane of existence, or even such a being existing there, in control of many aspects of this universe, say from the 5th dimension, or whom formed before the laws of physics did?

In an environment of absolute nothingness, you would find pure chaos; given enough time, everything would happen. In that time, the most powerful entity would take control, like with sentience, and then establish order; once order was established, order would never revert into chaos. Thus while chaos will inevitability lead to order, ultimate order, like mass cannot be created or destroyed and so on, will perpetuate itself by it's very nature. Thus chaos creates order, and order perpetuates itself endlessly. And yet, during this time, it would be possible, if not plausible, for what we understand as a God to arrive. Not exactly like the Gods we're used to, but similar enough.


Interestingly enough, Occam's razor does describe something about the universe, but not the way it believes. While it suggest simplicity is the inherent likelihood of the universe, thus disproving God, the very existence of ourselves, instead of nothing, defies the idea of simplicity; the presence of the laws of physics, of the sun, of the intricate nature of the universe, defies the occam's razor; being alive is likely one of the least complex things that could exist. Yet in biology, our designs are predicated on efficiency, to be as efficient as possible, when you look at fish, flying birds, and so on. This is based on the concept of entropy, which is itself based on the idea of equivalent exchange. Matter cannot be created or destroyed, nor energy, more or less we exist in a universe of scarcity, where to do anything requires sacrifice, or the equivalent exchange.

Thus while everything is finely balanced on an infinitely thin razor, with equality a basis of life, the notion that something too big would fall off isn't necessarily true, just something unbalanced. While the intuition says something too big would be hard to balance, our universe innately makes it impossible to be unequal, and thus things like the sun, can exist (although they aren't perfect spheres due to their rotation). Thus the core nature of the universe is balance, which is also equal to a sphere. Which justifies Karma. Perhaps not an 8 manned god but we're getting close to some core concepts of religion.


Also I can divide by zero.

Fanatical Zealot

Also I can divide by zero.

Fanatical Zealot

chainmailleman
Suicidesoldier#1
chainmailleman
Oh hey, another zero thread. What's the definition of zero again? I'm confused from the last few threads.....


It's a symbol in mathematics representing NOTHING! scream


Finally a straight answer.


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Greedy Consumer

Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.

Fanatical Zealot

Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.


If there are zero people, or say a made up Sasquatch to receive 100 chocolate bars? They receive zero; since they don't exist, they can't receive the chocolate bars.

Think about it. It makes sense. wink
AsuraSyn
foxxykitty27
AsuraSyn
foxxykitty27
AsuraSyn
foxxykitty27

Life's purpose cannot be explained by science or logic. You can't explain to me why this specific speck of dust landed on my shoulder and if there was a reason for it to do so.



Chaos.


Psh



What happens happens, not because it had to, but because it did.
That speck of dust landed on your shoulder because it DID land on your shoulder. This is the plane of reality in which that happened. That's why it happened.


That's not really in disagreement with what I said. I'm not contesting the validity of your statement, but I would say it's just a fancy way of saying, "Who knows?"



It's only a "who knows?" if you operate under the idea that there must be a grand reason behind existence instead of a meager one. People love the idea of being the "Chosen One" but mostly, we're just filler. Of course, so's everything else, so really we're in one hell of a big club...


And what if there is? Who knows? What makes you so sure that there isn't? Enlighten me.

Greedy Consumer

Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.


If there are zero people, or say a made up Sasquatch to receive 100 chocolate bars? They receive zero; since they don't exist, they can't receive the chocolate bars.

Think about it. It makes sense. wink
Its more like.
Congrats, we lost 100 bars of chocolate somewhere in storage.
Except its not allowed to leave~.

Fanatical Zealot

Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.


If there are zero people, or say a made up Sasquatch to receive 100 chocolate bars? They receive zero; since they don't exist, they can't receive the chocolate bars.

Think about it. It makes sense. wink
Its more like.
Congrats, we lost 100 bars of chocolate somewhere in storage.
Except its not allowed to leave~.


Or maybe it's on the moon, swallowed by an octopus shark; or maybe they exist, but they're ruined because they're moldy or got wet, or taste bad.

We functionally have zero even though they exist. eek

Greedy Consumer

Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.


If there are zero people, or say a made up Sasquatch to receive 100 chocolate bars? They receive zero; since they don't exist, they can't receive the chocolate bars.

Think about it. It makes sense. wink
Its more like.
Congrats, we lost 100 bars of chocolate somewhere in storage.
Except its not allowed to leave~.


Or maybe it's on the moon, swallowed by an octopus shark; or maybe they exist, but they're ruined because they're moldy or got wet, or taste bad.

We functionally have zero even though they exist. eek
Actually..

Dividing by 0 is like burning the chocolate bars in an offering to god lol.

Which would only happen when theres a surplus of Chocolate bars, or there was a tradition of burning chocolate bars during a surplus of chocolate bars.

Because thats how the world works, very predictable lol.
Suicidesoldier#1
Also I can divide by zero.


That is inane.

Fanatical Zealot

Fermionic
Suicidesoldier#1
Also I can divide by zero.


That is inane.


Yes, but that is only due to the silly concept of zero. xp

Fanatical Zealot

Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Suicidesoldier#1
Gardening_with_Rave_Music
Perhaps its closer to dividing by zero. lol

Which would be like, a bad joke lol.

We have 100 bars of chocolate. There are 0 people to split the chocolate with. How much does each receive?

NOBODY KNOWS lol

But while you cannot divide by zero you can express the equation inversely to achieve a result anyways.

Like 8/1 inverted is 1/8.

So 100/0 vs 0/100. 0 is 0 lol. Even inverted it is zero.


If there are zero people, or say a made up Sasquatch to receive 100 chocolate bars? They receive zero; since they don't exist, they can't receive the chocolate bars.

Think about it. It makes sense. wink
Its more like.
Congrats, we lost 100 bars of chocolate somewhere in storage.
Except its not allowed to leave~.


Or maybe it's on the moon, swallowed by an octopus shark; or maybe they exist, but they're ruined because they're moldy or got wet, or taste bad.

We functionally have zero even though they exist. eek
Actually..

Dividing by 0 is like burning the chocolate bars in an offering to god lol.

Which would only happen when theres a surplus of Chocolate bars, or there was a tradition of burning chocolate bars during a surplus of chocolate bars.

Because thats how the world works, very predictable lol.


Or flying to the moon. ninja

Because we didn't bring back the costs outside of physical things, but in knowledge! Which maybe lead to scientific inventions which compensated for the costs, but, not directly.
Suicidesoldier#1
Fermionic
Suicidesoldier#1
Also I can divide by zero.


That is inane.


Yes, but that is only due to the silly concept of zero. xp


No it isn't, it is due to the author's poor grasp of mathematics.

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Suicidesoldier#1
AsuraSyn
foxxykitty27
AsuraSyn
foxxykitty27

Life's purpose cannot be explained by science or logic. You can't explain to me why this specific speck of dust landed on my shoulder and if there was a reason for it to do so.



Chaos.


Psh



What happens happens, not because it had to, but because it did.
That speck of dust landed on your shoulder because it DID land on your shoulder. This is the plane of reality in which that happened. That's why it happened.



Or was there a purpose, or a guidance, by some higher plane of existence, or even such a being existing there, in control of many aspects of this universe, say from the 5th dimension, or whom formed before the laws of physics did?

In an environment of absolute nothingness, you would find pure chaos; given enough time, everything would happen. In that time, the most powerful entity would take control, like with sentience, and then establish order; once order was established, order would never revert into chaos. Thus while chaos will inevitability lead to order, ultimate order, like mass cannot be created or destroyed and so on, will perpetuate itself by it's very nature. Thus chaos creates order, and order perpetuates itself endlessly. And yet, during this time, it would be possible, if not plausible, for what we understand as a God to arrive. Not exactly like the Gods we're used to, but similar enough.


Interestingly enough, Occam's razor does describe something about the universe, but not the way it believes. While it suggest simplicity is the inherent likelihood of the universe, thus disproving God, the very existence of ourselves, instead of nothing, defies the idea of simplicity; the presence of the laws of physics, of the sun, of the intricate nature of the universe, defies the occam's razor; being alive is likely one of the least complex things that could exist. Yet in biology, our designs are predicated on efficiency, to be as efficient as possible, when you look at fish, flying birds, and so on. This is based on the concept of entropy, which is itself based on the idea of equivalent exchange. Matter cannot be created or destroyed, nor energy, more or less we exist in a universe of scarcity, where to do anything requires sacrifice, or the equivalent exchange.

Thus while everything is finely balanced on an infinitely thin razor, with equality a basis of life, the notion that something too big would fall off isn't necessarily true, just something unbalanced. While the intuition says something too big would be hard to balance, our universe innately makes it impossible to be unequal, and thus things like the sun, can exist (although they aren't perfect spheres due to their rotation). Thus the core nature of the universe is balance, which is also equal to a sphere. Which justifies Karma. Perhaps not an 8 manned god but we're getting close to some core concepts of religion.


Also I can divide by zero.



In an environment of absolute nothingness you would find absolutely nothing. Order and Chaos only exist in the presence of existence itself. They are not separate, individual entities or deities. Moreover, the idea of Chaos is not so limited as to be separate from Order as Chaos is also growth, whereas supreme Order would be stagnation and the destruction of existence, thus Chaos reborn. Were Order to truly perpetuate itself endlessly, life could never begin. Life is Chaos incarnate. Consumption, growth, reproduction, death and rebirth, these are all the basic elements of Chaos and Life.
Our existence is not based upon efficiency, but upon happenstance. We didn't emerge from the earth fully formed to feast upon the fruit of Knowledge. We spawned in legions from the sea! Those who could survive the rising of the tide, did. Those who found their unique traits advantageous thrived and passed such traits on, whereas their brothers died and were lost to the sands. This is evolution, growth itself. We were refined over eons, like all life, to arrive at this specific form simply because the environment refined itself in such a way as to support this form. There is no guiding intellect or the trillions upon trillions of lost species and mutations would never have been needed.
The very idea that life is founded upon efficiency is laughable when you consider so little as a 5 degree change in environment can decimate an ecosystem.
In the grand scheme of things, Order is inevitably temporary. Giving us just long enough to form physical mass before deteriorating into base materials again. The grand flux of Chaos ensures that everything that can happen does happen. We simply are too small to see it all. The universe is not balanced, it is chaotic. Super- and Hypernovae occur almost hourly. Entire stellar systems are born and wiped out by celestial events of creation and destruction, so much so we are only just grasping the danger of existence. Even the seemingly orderly systems of the universe are mere constructs of supreme Chaos. Supermassive black holes, the ultimate destructive force in the cosmos are at the heart of EVERY galaxy!

Fanatical Zealot

Fermionic
Suicidesoldier#1
Fermionic
Suicidesoldier#1
Also I can divide by zero.


That is inane.


Yes, but that is only due to the silly concept of zero. xp


No it isn't, it is due to the author's poor grasp of mathematics.


It sounds like you're jelly. talk2hand

As well, what's 50/10? It's 5; but in figuring that out, you divided by zero.

It merely was a holding place that denoted a change in magnitude. In reality it would be denoted by a decimal, but the holding place was zero, just as if you had multiplied 50 x 10 and gotten 500.

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