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George Bush is the antichrist. (I'd believe that IF I were christian.)

Hold on! Wait!


Allow me to argue before you flame, please.

Using the "standard revised version" i.e. Gideons.
And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and a blasphemous name upon its heads. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder. 4 Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" 5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; 6 it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation, 8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain. 9 If any one has an ear, let him hear: 10 If any one is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if any one slays with the sword, with the sword must he be slain. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints. 11 Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13 It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; 14 and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived; 15 and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
The beast rising out of the sea would be the U.S. The white settlers came from Eurpoe, and so to settle on the land had to rise up out of the sea. Plus, there were originally TEN colonies before three more were added. (also, in Daniel 3:41-44, the feet of clay and iron represent the north and south in the civil war- agrarian south and industrial north.)
The U.S. now has military, political, and economic control of the world. Ronald Wilson Reagan's press secretary was shot in the head, reported dead, and then, due to surgery, he survived a wound that would certainly have killed him.
Going by the usual standards of war, what is the last war the U.S. lost? Iraq, actually, but we really didn't lose anything but men and money. No other country has power like we do. 'Make war on the saints' is an allegory to Iraq, which has the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which is where the Garden of Eden was suspected to be. The saints of the Bible and New Testamnet lived in the Middle East area, and the U.S. dominates there, whether through use of Israel or our own imperialistic forces.
Look at Guantanamo Bay. Supposedly, al-Quaeda and other such freedom fighters/terrorists are held captive there for their crimes (or at least held there.) September 11, 2001- the WTC was blown up. Of course, going by our usual xenophobic standards, go off and kill a bunch of Arabs in Afganistan.
The beast with two horns is Washington, DC. There is the DC where people live, and the seat of government. Also, it is in between Maryland and Virginia. It is where the power of the states is, and all the decisons are made there. The decisons made lead to the people of the world respecting, or, at leat, fearing us. The missiles we use to weaken targets are the pillars of fire from the sky.
The U.S. prposed trade sanctions against Iraq, preventing them from trading unless it was for products not to be used in a war.
R-o-n-a-l-d R-e-a-g-a-n W-i-l-s-o-n. 666. Plus, he retired to 666 St. Cloud, which was later changed to 668 St. Cloud.
"I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and bedecked with gold and jewels and pearls"
Nancy Reagan consistently wore very expensive designer clothing while she was First Lady, strongly favoring the color red.
"and on her forehead was written a name of mystery: "Babylon the great, mother of harlots and of earth's abominations."
Nancy Reagan also used astrology, a Babylonian faith, to determine important White House events.
"And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the harlot;"
Nancy Reagan was attacked regularly by her critics.
"The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the fountains of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter."
Chernobyl means wormwood, and the fallout caused deadly waters to run for a while. Nuclear power is used by the stars. Nice.
George W. Bush happens to be the return of the Beast. He follows Reagan policies almost to the letter- the war, the economy, his political platforms, etc. So the reincarnation of the Antichrist fell from Heaven (Politcal Power) and then came back in a different form upon the earth (George Bush II.)
Oh, and also, there are to be seven years of tribulation before Armageddon. Two more to go.
Please refrain from flaming me on this. If you're going to argue, try to use actual facts somewhere in it. If you can't do it, don't post. Anyways, I'm looking forward to your anger, hate, and, from the smallest minority, total agreement.
Mingan29
George Bush is the antichrist.

Hold on! Wait!


Allow me to argue before you flame, please.

Using the "standard revised version" i.e. Gideons.
And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and a blasphemous name upon its heads. 2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. 3 One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder. 4 Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" 5 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; 6 it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7 Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation, 8 and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain. 9 If any one has an ear, let him hear: 10 If any one is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if any one slays with the sword, with the sword must he be slain. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints. 11 Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13 It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; 14 and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived; 15 and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
The beast rising out of the sea would be the U.S. The white settlers came from Eurpoe, and so to settle on the land had to rise up out of the sea. Plus, there were originally TEN colonies before three more were added. (also, in Daniel 3:41-44, the feet of clay and iron represent the north and south in the civil war- agrarian south and industrial north.)
The U.S. now has military, political, and economic control of the world. Ronald Wilson Reagan's press secretary was shot in the head, reported dead, and then, due to surgery, he survived a wound that would certainly have killed him.
Going by the usual standards of war, what is the last war the U.S. lost? Iraq, actually, but we really didn't lose anything but men and money. No other country has power like we do. 'Make war on the saints' is an allegory to Iraq, which has the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, which is where the Garden of Eden was suspected to be. The saints of the Bible and New Testamnet lived in the Middle East area, and the U.S. dominates there, whether through use of Israel or our own imperialistic forces.
Look at Guantanamo Bay. Supposedly, al-Quaeda and other such freedom fighters/terrorists are held captive there for their crimes (or at least held there.) September 11, 2001- the WTC was blown up. Of course, going by our usual xenophobic standards, go off and kill a bunch of Arabs in Afganistan.
The beast with two horns is Washington, DC. There is the DC where people live, and the seat of government. Also, it is in between Maryland and Virginia. It is where the power of the states is, and all the decisons are made there. The decisons made lead to the people of the world respecting, or, at leat, fearing us. The missiles we use to weaken targets are the pillars of fire from the sky.
The U.S. prposed trade sanctions against Iraq, preventing them from trading unless it was for products not to be used in a war.
R-o-n-a-l-d R-e-a-g-a-n W-i-l-s-o-n. 666. Plus, he retired to 666 St. Cloud, which was later changed to 668 St. Cloud.
"I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and bedecked with gold and jewels and pearls"
Nancy Reagan consistently wore very expensive designer clothing while she was First Lady, strongly favoring the color red.
"and on her forehead was written a name of mystery: "Babylon the great, mother of harlots and of earth's abominations."
Nancy Reagan also used astrology, a Babylonian faith, to determine important White House events.
"And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the harlot;"
Nancy Reagan was attacked regularly by her critics.
"The third angel blew his trumpet, and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the fountains of water. The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter."
Chernobyl means wormwood, and the fallout caused deadly waters to run for a while. Nuclear power is used by the stars. Nice.
George W. Bush happens to be the return of the Beast. He follows Reagan policies almost to the letter- the war, the economy, his political platforms, etc. So the reincarnation of the Antichrist fell from Heaven (Politcal Power) and then came back in a different form upon the earth (George Bush II.)
Oh, and also, there are to be seven years of tribulation before Armageddon. Two more to go.
Please refrain from flaming me on this. If you're going to argue, try to use actual facts somewhere in it. If you can't do it, don't post. Anyways, I'm looking forward to your anger, hate, and, from the smallest minority, total agreement.

Those are all quite a stretch, but to be honest I beleive Bush is evil for his actions. Ive given some thought to him being the Antichrist before, but either way I have extreme dislike for the dude and so I know where my morals stand.
EDIT: I don't really think he's the Antichrist because I'm not Christian.

And don't quote the first post, it's a bit too long... wink
Please say you are joking.


...please? gonk
you are joking.


...please? gonk

Alright, what now?
Mingan29
EDIT: I don't really think he's the Antichrist because I'm not Christian.

And don't quote the first post, it's a bit too long... wink

Gosh Mingan... thats sad. Just because its apparently not "cool" to be christian doesnt mean you have to suddenly save face and retract your whole argument because you accidentally made a reference to something from christian doctrine. Geez.

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Trout Master
Please say you are joking.


...please? gonk


Sorry to say, but I don't think he's joking.
Though I know I'm laughing.
Bush, the anti-Christ!? He doesn't quite deserve the honor of such a label.
Kaeta_Guardian
Mingan29
EDIT: I don't really think he's the Antichrist because I'm not Christian.

And don't quote the first post, it's a bit too long... wink

Gosh Mingan... thats sad. Just because its apparently not "cool" to be christian doesnt mean you have to suddenly save face and retract your whole argument because you accidentally made a reference to something from christian doctrine. Geez.


I was saying that if I was christian, I'd believe it.
ConsusLata
Bush, the anti-Christ!? He doesn't quite deserve the honor of such a label.

The honor?
wow. That had to be the coolest thing I have read in a while. Did you do all of this yourself? It has to be the most interesting thing on Gaia I have ever read.
kyuubi
wow. That had to be the coolest thing I have read in a while. Did you do all of this yourself? It has to be the most interesting thing on Gaia I have ever read.


Yes, I did. I had posted it on my Fictionpress ID (Z-Dub) and I figured that it would go over like a lead brick here.
Wow, Mingan, I suddenly think I might love you. biggrin

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ConsusLata
Bush, the anti-Christ!? He doesn't quite deserve the honor of such a label.

The honor?


Who said anything about Honor? Being The "Antichrist" is anything else but Honorable. Though technically, anybody opposed to Christianity are Antichrist's themselves, because they're Anti-Christian.
Which is stupid, really.

I understand where Mingan29 is going with this but still, there have been far worse people than Bush in existence over the past 30+ years.
Whereas Georgey is only being singled-out because of his war against Iraq , and his opposition toward Gay marriage.
Mingan29
Kaeta_Guardian
Mingan29
EDIT: I don't really think he's the Antichrist because I'm not Christian.

And don't quote the first post, it's a bit too long... wink

Gosh Mingan... thats sad. Just because its apparently not "cool" to be christian doesnt mean you have to suddenly save face and retract your whole argument because you accidentally made a reference to something from christian doctrine. Geez.


I was saying that if I was christian, I'd believe it.

Thats lame. If you spent the time to reference revelations... just... why? Geez you make it sound like its shameful to be christian.

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