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[Charley]

Spoot-maker

Scavenging will only get you so far and hunting/foraging would heavily depend on the area and your knowledge of both.

Any resource with a listing of regional edible flora is worth its weight in rations. Seriously you may not enjoy eating it, but there is a ton of stuff out there to live on. Almost all grasses are edible, for one.

[Aegis_Guard]

Spoot-maker

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There's a pheromone difference between fear and horny. Deer urine is "horny".

And what if zombies have breeding urges?
Then you're in for a whole lot of trouble.

I'd still think zombies would be attracted to any large source of any pheromone. Like you covered in horny deer urine.

Horny Zombies - (Shudder)

I will now proceed to erase that image from my mind with copious ammounts of booze

[Spoot-Mule-One]

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They're called Mainstay rations. The kind I got are Mainstay 3600, or 3600 calories per pouch. In other words, each pouch has three days worth of food at minimum.

But what are the downsides? It can't be all great.
I'm guessing they don't keep well and really don't stand up to the rain.

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Oh and to all of you bastards whom I have come to love, howdy.

Howdy. Finally, I'm called something other than a*****e.

[Xaxial]

My friends and I have talked about this for some time now...
There is a gun store about a mile from our home, it also has rations suitable for long-term traveling, and a gas station nearby. It has a store-room filled with plenty of ammunition, and has gilly suits (I.E. Military sniper Camo) tree stands, nightvision binocs... etc..
The guns it supplies has semi-automatic handguns, (My preferred favorite)
in multiple calibers. Carbines, sniper rifles, scopes, laser guides, these are all supplied. Crossbows, hunting knives, shotguns, axes, machetes, it's the perfect place to go.

Being close to the Minnesota/Twin Cities border is a downside, however. We are about 23 miles off of those areas, so we would need to get to said gun-store within the first 15 minutes of infection, (in mass area), for once the twin cities are corrupted, there will be the dumbasses thinking about one thing:
I need to fill my car up with gasoline.
Within the first 15 minutes of mass panic, there will have been tons of people killing each other for the gasoline, and the gun-store is a gas station as well.

There is a docking station nearby the store, leading out on a lake.
There are rental keys for pontoons inside the store for pontoons tied to docks at the lake. I figure, you can exterminate zombies at the docks and move about 5-6 pontoons out into the middle of the waters...
Build a massive fort out of pontoons, anchor out there.

Post sentries at night, arm naval squads with harpoon guns, I know some houses that have them nearby.
Take about two speedboats from the store, and use them for ration-runs or a quick means of escape.

Of course, the big lake store won't have rations forever... but what do you think hunting and fishing were invented for? the lake has a plausible 10-20
years of food in it...
The advantages of being on the water?
Depthfinder.
You would think that zombies would have the upperhand...
But using a depthfinder...
you would know when zombies are incoming.

[Charley]

Spoot-maker

But what are the downsides? It can't be all great.
I'm guessing they don't keep well and really don't stand up to the rain.

The downside is that it's massively nutrient rich so it will not fill you up and you have to eat in a disciplined fashion. Then again, any good ration will do this also. You gotta control yourself!

The mainstays are ******** great. They're Kosher/Halal, have no HFCS or trans fat, and are ******** loaded with calories & energy goodness. Taste like a really dense lemon square or a sugar cookie, etc. The pouch is completely waterproof and vac-sealed so that the whole thing is an immovable brick. It's also got a shelf life for at least five years, if not more.

[Aegis_Guard]

Spoot-maker

I've overtaken the ***** Explained thread.
TAKE THAT LEGITIMATE POSTING!

Anywho, I'm wondering how effective sound would be to attract zombies.
Get a car battery to power someone's stereo and crank a cd right up.
Then run like hell so all the zombies flock to that area.

I had an idea awhile ago about a "Sonic Bomb" if zeds were attracted to sound.

Search for the subwoofer competition at Miami Beach for an idea of what im talking about. ( i cant link u coz i dont know how)

Basicly, these guys install the largest and most powerful subwoofers inside their cars which are lined and armoured with titanium frames to stop them being destroyed. They also have soundproofed windows to prevent damage to observers.

Enough sonic energy is produced to shatter eardrums, and cripple an un armoured car. If left running for an extended time, the car would shake itself to peices. The effect on any human inside these cars would be a painful (but quite rapid) death.

I have no idea of the effect on dead flesh - but concentreated sonic energy can shake molleculer structure until it desintergrates, the larger the object, the more energy is needed. This energy may not need to be given in a single blast, but over time, sonic weapons can disintegrate steel reinforced concrete buildings.

Its effects on zeds need further reserch.

[Charley]

Aegis_Guard

Spoot-maker

I've overtaken the ***** Explained thread.
TAKE THAT LEGITIMATE POSTING!

Anywho, I'm wondering how effective sound would be to attract zombies.
Get a car battery to power someone's stereo and crank a cd right up.
Then run like hell so all the zombies flock to that area.

I had an idea awhile ago about a "Sonic Bomb" if zeds were attracted to sound.

Search for the subwoofer competition at Miami Beach for an idea of what im talking about. ( i cant link u coz i dont know how)

Basicly, these guys install the largest and most powerful subwoofers inside their cars which are lined and armoured with titanium frames to stop them being destroyed. They also have soundproofed windows to prevent damage to observers.

Enough sonic energy is produced to shatter eardrums, and cripple an un armoured car. If left running for an extended time, the car would shake itself to peices. The effect on any human inside these cars would be a painful (but quite rapid) death.

I have no idea of the effect on dead flesh - but concentreated sonic energy can shake molleculer structure until it desintergrates, the larger the object, the more energy is needed. This energy may not need to be given in a single blast, but over time, sonic weapons can disintegrate steel reinforced concrete buildings.

Its effects on zeds need further reserch.

Reminds me of thumpers from Dune smile

And this is why I can't discount the military, because this is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect them to do. Create huge sound traps and then carpet bomb them to maximum saturation. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Angstrom Jairi Gudson]

Well, I would do a sensible thing...
north. I am near the middle of america, and would be basically boned Trying to get to many other locations. but if I followed the civilian horde that would try to go north, then I could go further. maybe even go into the eastern canadian bay. they have many Islands up there. I might be able to hop from one to the other, raiding inland for supplies. But I would need more people. maybe eight or ten, for protection. cold would be a problem, But I think I could work it.

In all sense though, Going north, especially that far, would be unwise for the untrained.
But, when confused and scared, sometimes one will follow the masses, for a while, anyway. but I would try my hardest to live. not to kill for vengeance, no, as many others would. I have stood firm when relatives had died before, and didnt flinch or even shed a tear. I would try to live.
I cant think now, but when I CAN think, I'll write a good one, As I love hearing these, and I can presume you would too.

[Spoot-Mule-One]

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The downside is that it's massively nutrient rich so it will not fill you up and you have to eat in a disciplined fashion. Then again, any good ration will do this also. You gotta control yourself!

The mainstays are ******** great. They're Kosher/Halal, have no HFCS or trans fat, and are ******** loaded with calories & energy goodness. Taste like a really dense lemon square or a sugar cookie, etc. The pouch is completely waterproof and vac-sealed so that the whole thing is an immovable brick. It's also got a shelf life for at least five years, if not more.

How much do they cost though? I've never seen them in any of the survival stores in my area.

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And this is why I can't discount the military, because this is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect them to do. Create huge sound traps and then carpet bomb them to maximum saturation. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Unless they decide to wash, rinse and repeat on the general public to root out all infected. Including you.

[Aegis_Guard]

Glamtron

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, and if it has I apologize, but I always wanted to know what people thought about the survival of the physically handicapped in a zombie situation?

As a "disabled" person I know the first place I'd have to hit would be a drug store of some kind, because I'm pretty much non-functional with out my medication, physically.

What do you think? Could some one use other survival skills, ie hand to hand combat skills to fend off the undead if they were unable to do long distance running? Excellent thread by the way.

Cripple - bullet to head - end of problem. Its Euthenasia and will prevent a long slow death.

If however they have something that will be need - such as genious level intelegence i would gladly help them. For other types of phisical or mental cripples - refer to my "crazy man assault squad" idea a long way back.

Overall though - a drooling, wheelchair bound person - quick death with no hesitation whatsoever. (I have somewhat liberal veiws on euthenasia in my family).

[Charley]

Spoot-maker

How much do they cost though? I've never seen them in any of the survival stores in my area.

I order them on the internet, and buy a case of 10 3600 kits (30 meals) for $75. It's not top ramen, but then again, top ramen isn't a super survivable energy brick that requires no prep.

Contrast that with 12 MRE's (12 meals, albeit higher calorie content, but also huge space demands and prep) for $65.

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Unless they decide to wash, rinse and repeat on the general public to root out all infected. Including you.

Fewer are more paranoid of them than I, but I'm not the type to think that they'll follow a Brooks model and fold up at all.

[Riyka-Kins]

This seems interesting....



I would stick more less with melee combat, but will always have two weapons with me, a shotgun, and an automatic weapon. The automatic would most be used in "crowd control" a method to back zombies up if they are closing in on you. The shotgun is a last resort, my one way ticket to clear a path to make my escape. I am not above running away (their dead, they have no opinion) to save my skin. I would stick in a group, but will try to stay in the back or front, to avoid contamination. My melee's will be anything that will hurt someone, bad. ( cash registers, trash cans, chairs, ect.) I will make my wn weapons out of poles and benches, so I will have a hand saw (small), ax, blade, and hammer. These items will probably be used as offensive attacks as well. I will steal from stores to get food (no perishable) and weapons. I will try to find high ground, or a safe house to sleep. I will always be with some one. I would try to get out of the z-area, and tell outsiders of the occurrence. Do you think I would live?

[Glamtron]

What you're saying then is that you're thinking the government wouldn't kill you because you are totally not expendable?

I mean Christ, the idea that the military wouldn't flush us all in the event of the Z-pandemic is giving the government a lot of credit where it isn't due. More than likely they'd have a plan for a select group of survivors to repopulate, and the rest of us would be um, woofered?

God that sounds really great as a word, woofered.

Additionally is it wrong that what Charley just said made me really hungry for some?

Oh and also, I meant every one except for you Spoot. (justkiddingIloveyoutoo;0)

[Glamtron]

Aegis_Guard

Cripple - bullet to head - end of problem. Its Euthenasia and will prevent a long slow death.

If however they have something that will be need - such as genious level intelegence i would gladly help them. For other types of phisical or mental cripples - refer to my "crazy man assault squad" idea a long way back.

Overall though - a drooling, wheelchair bound person - quick death with no hesitation whatsoever. (I have somewhat liberal veiws on euthenasia in my family).

You know I'm totally not going to take a chance and I'm going to opt not to hang around you after the Z-Pandemic.

Dx;

[Spoot-Mule-One]

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What you're saying then is that you're thinking the government wouldn't kill you because you are totally not expendable?

I mean Christ, the idea that the military wouldn't flush us all in the event of the Z-pandemic is giving the government a lot of credit where it isn't due. More than likely they'd have a plan for a select group of survivors to repopulate, and the rest of us would be um, woofered?

God that sounds really great as a word, woofered.

Additionally is it wrong that what Charley just said made me really hungry for some?

Oh and also, I meant every one except for you Spoot. (justkiddingIloveyoutoo;0)

Do you think the military would ask questions first then shoot?
Seems a** backwards from their usual regime.
Although not for mine.

Nah, I could go for a giant lemon sugar cookie.

Now if only my mother would say that.