McSteak'n'Cheese! ~ SFHangout Thread ~ Objection!

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RainbowDreamsOx

I agree cool

The gaia cash shop is very unfair as I don't want to pay out for something that should be free and the monthly collectables should be able to buy in shops and should not be in five parts,to suck your money away evil

You're making no good points here; You're simply saying you don't want to use money, and you think that because you don't want to use money, that you deserve the items? No. The items are good, and they SHOULD be paid for, because gaia SHOULD get some money.

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blah blah blah gross chips blah.

This analogy makes no sense for two reasons: one, Gaia is selling digital items that can never "sell out" or be low in stock, & two, lower prices woudl be beneficial to both loyal customers & occasional customers. Who doesn't like being ablue to keep more of their money? If anythig tahtv would gain Gaia customers, cheap products are the reason why companies liek The Dollar Store have been around for so long

for that last bit, you're neglecting the fact that new users don't stay new. They bum around the site, play the market, gain gold & are eventually able to afford those expensive gold items. People ahve been saving up for Fairy Wings for years, & there are gold shop items well over 40k as it is, so I don't see that as a viable excuse

Also, that sounds like the most disgusting flavor of chip imaginable

[keikyoto]

I do not agree with ANYTHING in the first post at all. I find that Gaia has been really nice to me as a user. The only thing I find upsetting is the fact that I sent in my idea for a new item, but everyone who had gotten submitted and ACCEPTED were ideas that were completely unoriginal. I mean, seriously, Kiki and Coco Kitty umbrellas?

[digimonktbug]

What irks me is the fact that the guild forums have become a chatterbox. Random threads keep poppping up, and when people wanting to form a guild, RP in the FFA, or whatever, they can't find the thread because of the chatterbox spam. The people telling the ones owning the chatterbox thread where to go are getting blocked and the threads are still there! THat's stupid! When we go to the mods, nothing is done about the spam! What's going on Mods??

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blah blah blah gross chips blah.

This analogy makes no sense for two reasons: one, Gaia is selling digital items that can never "sell out" or be low in stock, & two, lower prices woudl be beneficial to both loyal customers & occasional customers. Who doesn't like being ablue to keep more of their money? If anythig tahtv would gain Gaia customers, cheap products are the reason why companies liek The Dollar Store have been around for so long

for that last bit, you're neglecting the fact that new users don't stay new. They bum around the site, play the market, gain gold & are eventually able to afford those expensive gold items. People ahve been saving up for Fairy Wings for years, & there are gold shop items well over 40k as it is, so I don't see that as a viable excuse

Also, that sounds like the most disgusting flavor of chip imaginable

Think about it. All the people who really do matter, the people who do pay, should not be neglected. The noobs should be neglected, because they're complaining that they CAN'T pay, so they want paid items for free? Massive failure. Wanting Evolving Items for cheaper isn't the WORST idea, but if Gaia changes that, I'm leaving, and taking my money with me. So; Which would they rather have? People who want to pay less, who probably won't pay anyways, or people who pay and keep paying, no matter what?

How about this. I make a thread, saying, I feel that Gaia's perfect, and that if Gaia changes to the way NK wants it, we paying customers, will leave, and take our money with us?

I'm sure it would get tons of posts. We don't WANT to see your changes. These changes will NOT help Gaians, and 2000 people on a petition is not enough of the millions of Gaian accounts there are out there, to make a difference.

Also; I'm not saying noobs stay new. I'm saying, right off the bat, people want fish. Which is shown by most of the the people in starting gear complaining about paid fish. Yet, if fish become gold, they won't be able to afford them anyways, since they already can't afford them in the Marketplace.

Finally, Jalapeno Cheddar is an amazing flavour. But that isn't the topic. Don't take shots at my food choices, or I'll take shots at your poor spelling.

[HoloDarkElf]

wtc polar

whats an evolving item, how dose this thing work, and please be nice....

An evolving item is like the Fallen Wish or Alurna's Rose
It evolves into new poses every few weeks&it costs actually money unless you can get enough to buy one with gold in the market place

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Princess Julia Of Heart

wtc polar

whats an evolving item, how dose this thing work, and please be nice....

An evolving item is like the Fallen Wish or Alurna's Rose
It evolves into new poses every few weeks&it costs actually money unless you can get enough to buy one with gold in the market place

Which everyone can do, if they do it right. People just often can't play the markets properly.

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Think about it. All the people who really do matter, the people who do pay, should not be neglected. The noobs should be neglected, because they're complaining that they CAN'T pay, so they want paid items for free? Massive failure. Wanting Evolving Items for cheaper isn't the WORST idea, but if Gaia changes that, I'm leaving, and taking my money with me. So; Which would they rather have? People who want to pay less, who probably won't pay anyways, or people who pay and keep paying, no matter what?

How about this. I make a thread, saying, I feel that Gaia's perfect, and that if Gaia changes to the way NK wants it, we paying customers, will leave, and take our money with us?

I'm sure it would get tons of posts. We don't WANT to see your changes. These changes will NOT help Gaians, and 2000 people on a petition is not enough of the millions of Gaian accounts there are out there, to make a difference.

Also; I'm not saying noobs stay new. I'm saying, right off the bat, people want fish. Which is shown by most of the the people in starting gear complaining about paid fish. Yet, if fish become gold, they won't be able to afford them anyways, since they already can't afford them in the Marketplace.

Finally, Jalapeno Cheddar is an amazing flavour. But that isn't the topic. Don't take shots at my food choices, or I'll take shots at your poor spelling.

You're ignoring some basic facts of economics. Lower prices = higher chances of selling. Reasonalby prices products = consumers more willing to buy. You don't see $300 blazers selling nearly as well as their $40 Old Navy counterparts. Only the difference with Gaia is that more reasonable prices don't mean a hit in quality, the costs to produce a pixelated item & implement it into a pre-existing system are fairly low

Also, there are many of us who have been here for years, who have payed for years, & won't if these high prices keep up. I used to buy two MCs about every month. The prices were reasonable enough to keep up with. Now with the country that makes up a large part of Gaia's demographic in economic crisis, items costing an upwards of $10 (some of them TEMPORARY), & little attention being payed to non-pay features such as he mini-comics, the gold shops, Towns, theaters, etc? I see no reason to support the site if it won't support non-paying users. That being said, I don't think they should stop cash items, just make the prices more reasonable so they're not alienating so many customers

You're so sure? Do it, then

They can't afford them in the MP because the market isn't saturated with them, because so few people are buying. In gold shops, that wouldn't be an issue

My in-browser spellcheck is on the fritz, be a big boy & get over it surprised

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You're ignoring some basic facts of economics. Lower prices = higher chances of selling. Reasonalby prices products = consumers more willing to buy. You don't see $300 blazers selling nearly as well as their $40 Old Navy counterparts. Only the difference with Gaia is that more reasonable prices don't mean a hit in quality, the costs to produce a pixelated item & implement it into a pre-existing system are fairly low

Also, there are many of us who have been here for years, who have payed for years, & won't if these high prices keep up. I used to buy two MCs about every month. The prices were reasonable enough to keep up with. Now with the country that makes up a large part of Gaia's demographic in economic crisis, items costing an upwards of $10 (some of them TEMPORARY), & little attention being payed to non-pay features such as he mini-comics, the gold shops, Towns, theaters, etc? I see no reason to support the site if it won't support non-paying users. That being said, I don't think they should stop cash items, just make the prices more reasonable so they're not alienating so many customers

You're so sure? Do it, then

They can't afford them in the MP because the market isn't saturated with them, because so few people are buying. In gold shops, that wouldn't be an issue

My in-browser spellcheck is on the fritz, be a big boy & get over it surprised

Lower prices may mean that more people may possibly buy the items, but what of those of us who pay and will complain when they go down in price? It's just as bad business to sell too high, as to neglect the customers who are actual customers, not people who are don't pay yet complain about the prices. Also; I love my 325 dollar jacket. It's very nice, a lot better quality than any other jacket I could find at another store. I LOVE paying high amounts of money for good products, which I am doing for Evolving Items.

Gaia obviously does support non paid players. If they didn't uh.... Hm. They'd make it pay to play, and kick all the non payers? And at the same time, they're not customers, because they're free to players. Alienating customers doesn't matter. I paid the money for my Jinxi. I would have paid for my urn had I had the gold (Oops, Cash, correct'd) a while back. The next few Evolving Items, I will for sure buy and hold onto once they come out, and I will buy them with Gaia Cash. When I run out of cash, I'll get some more.

Gaia needs to support the people who really matter, and they are. We paid customers are all that SHOULD matter to them. People are lucky they still have free features.

Finally, be a big boy and learn to spell for yourself, without using a spellchecker.

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You're ignoring some basic facts of economics. Lower prices = higher chances of selling. Reasonalby prices products = consumers more willing to buy. You don't see $300 blazers selling nearly as well as their $40 Old Navy counterparts. Only the difference with Gaia is that more reasonable prices don't mean a hit in quality, the costs to produce a pixelated item & implement it into a pre-existing system are fairly low

Also, there are many of us who have been here for years, who have payed for years, & won't if these high prices keep up. I used to buy two MCs about every month. The prices were reasonable enough to keep up with. Now with the country that makes up a large part of Gaia's demographic in economic crisis, items costing an upwards of $10 (some of them TEMPORARY), & little attention being payed to non-pay features such as he mini-comics, the gold shops, Towns, theaters, etc? I see no reason to support the site if it won't support non-paying users. That being said, I don't think they should stop cash items, just make the prices more reasonable so they're not alienating so many customers

You're so sure? Do it, then

They can't afford them in the MP because the market isn't saturated with them, because so few people are buying. In gold shops, that wouldn't be an issue

My in-browser spellcheck is on the fritz, be a big boy & get over it surprised

Lower prices may mean that more people may possibly buy the items, but what of those of us who pay and will complain when they go down in price? It's just as bad business to sell too high, as to neglect the customers who are actual customers, not people who are don't pay yet complain about the prices. Also; I love my 325 dollar jacket. It's very nice, a lot better quality than any other jacket I could find at another store. I LOVE paying high amounts of money for good products, which I am doing for Evolving Items.

Gaia obviously does support non paid players. If they didn't uh.... Hm. They'd make it pay to play, and kick all the non payers? And at the same time, they're not customers, because they're free to players. Alienating customers doesn't matter. I paid the money for my Jinxi. I would have paid for my urn had I had the gold (Oops, Cash, correct'd) a while back. The next few Evolving Items, I will for sure buy and hold onto once they come out, and I will buy them with Gaia Cash. When I run out of cash, I'll get some more.

Gaia needs to support the people who really matter, and they are. We paid customers are all that SHOULD matter to them. People are lucky they still have free features.

Finally, be a big boy and learn to spell for yourself, without using a spellchecker.

Find me one other person who LOOOOOVES spending so much money non non-tangible products, & I'll buy your argument

"Alienating customers doesn't matter"? At which point, I stop taking you seriously 4laugh

That would be dandy if Gaia wasn't marketing itself as a FREE online community, when they don't even keep up with the features that don't have a price tag attatched

srry i am bad with keybord plz teach me cry

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You're ignoring some basic facts of economics. Lower prices = higher chances of selling. Reasonalby prices products = consumers more willing to buy. You don't see $300 blazers selling nearly as well as their $40 Old Navy counterparts. Only the difference with Gaia is that more reasonable prices don't mean a hit in quality, the costs to produce a pixelated item & implement it into a pre-existing system are fairly low

Also, there are many of us who have been here for years, who have payed for years, & won't if these high prices keep up. I used to buy two MCs about every month. The prices were reasonable enough to keep up with. Now with the country that makes up a large part of Gaia's demographic in economic crisis, items costing an upwards of $10 (some of them TEMPORARY), & little attention being payed to non-pay features such as he mini-comics, the gold shops, Towns, theaters, etc? I see no reason to support the site if it won't support non-paying users. That being said, I don't think they should stop cash items, just make the prices more reasonable so they're not alienating so many customers

You're so sure? Do it, then

They can't afford them in the MP because the market isn't saturated with them, because so few people are buying. In gold shops, that wouldn't be an issue

My in-browser spellcheck is on the fritz, be a big boy & get over it surprised

Lower prices may mean that more people may possibly buy the items, but what of those of us who pay and will complain when they go down in price? It's just as bad business to sell too high, as to neglect the customers who are actual customers, not people who are don't pay yet complain about the prices. Also; I love my 325 dollar jacket. It's very nice, a lot better quality than any other jacket I could find at another store. I LOVE paying high amounts of money for good products, which I am doing for Evolving Items.

Gaia obviously does support non paid players. If they didn't uh.... Hm. They'd make it pay to play, and kick all the non payers? And at the same time, they're not customers, because they're free to players. Alienating customers doesn't matter. I paid the money for my Jinxi. I would have paid for my urn had I had the gold (Oops, Cash, correct'd) a while back. The next few Evolving Items, I will for sure buy and hold onto once they come out, and I will buy them with Gaia Cash. When I run out of cash, I'll get some more.

Gaia needs to support the people who really matter, and they are. We paid customers are all that SHOULD matter to them. People are lucky they still have free features.

Finally, be a big boy and learn to spell for yourself, without using a spellchecker.

Find me one other person who LOOOOOVES spending so much money non non-tangible products, & I'll buy your argument

"Alienating customers doesn't matter"? At which point, I stop taking you seriously 4laugh

srry i am bad with keybord plz teach me cry

Hey, go play Maple Story. How many people buy items in there? Go play Grand Chase, where you need to buy an entire character and all possible items for him, with real money.

See, you're just immature, and this proves it. Certain customers don't matter, the customers who aren't willing to pay full money for a valuable item, don't matter. The people who don't actually buy items on gaia, SHOULDN'T matter, but NK is trying to make it so they do.

Stop being an immature little child, go, eat your milk and cookies, grow up a little, and then return to this thread with a mature opinion. Who knows. When you get older you might realize that there are two sides to this battle, and that my side is just as right as yours.

[Kara Darkholm]

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You're ignoring some basic facts of economics. Lower prices = higher chances of selling. Reasonalby prices products = consumers more willing to buy. You don't see $300 blazers selling nearly as well as their $40 Old Navy counterparts. Only the difference with Gaia is that more reasonable prices don't mean a hit in quality, the costs to produce a pixelated item & implement it into a pre-existing system are fairly low

Also, there are many of us who have been here for years, who have payed for years, & won't if these high prices keep up. I used to buy two MCs about every month. The prices were reasonable enough to keep up with. Now with the country that makes up a large part of Gaia's demographic in economic crisis, items costing an upwards of $10 (some of them TEMPORARY), & little attention being payed to non-pay features such as he mini-comics, the gold shops, Towns, theaters, etc? I see no reason to support the site if it won't support non-paying users. That being said, I don't think they should stop cash items, just make the prices more reasonable so they're not alienating so many customers

You're so sure? Do it, then

They can't afford them in the MP because the market isn't saturated with them, because so few people are buying. In gold shops, that wouldn't be an issue

My in-browser spellcheck is on the fritz, be a big boy & get over it surprised

Lower prices may mean that more people may possibly buy the items, but what of those of us who pay and will complain when they go down in price? It's just as bad business to sell too high, as to neglect the customers who are actual customers, not people who are don't pay yet complain about the prices. Also; I love my 325 dollar jacket. It's very nice, a lot better quality than any other jacket I could find at another store. I LOVE paying high amounts of money for good products, which I am doing for Evolving Items.

Gaia obviously does support non paid players. If they didn't uh.... Hm. They'd make it pay to play, and kick all the non payers? And at the same time, they're not customers, because they're free to players. Alienating customers doesn't matter. I paid the money for my Jinxi. I would have paid for my urn had I had the gold (Oops, Cash, correct'd) a while back. The next few Evolving Items, I will for sure buy and hold onto once they come out, and I will buy them with Gaia Cash. When I run out of cash, I'll get some more.

Gaia needs to support the people who really matter, and they are. We paid customers are all that SHOULD matter to them. People are lucky they still have free features.

Finally, be a big boy and learn to spell for yourself, without using a spellchecker.

Find me one other person who LOOOOOVES spending so much money non non-tangible products, & I'll buy your argument

"Alienating customers doesn't matter"? At which point, I stop taking you seriously 4laugh

That would be dandy if Gaia wasn't marketing itself as a FREE online community, when they don't even keep up with the features that don't have a price tag attatched

srry i am bad with keybord plz teach me cry

Oh! Oh! I'm right here! *waves hand* I do absolutely love spending money on gaia items :3
I'm usually busy with school, so i put my hard earned job money into Gaia, 1. for the items and 2. to help the staffers have a nice big paycheck. I'm helping with their American dream xD

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Kara Darkholm

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Find me one other person who LOOOOOVES spending so much money non non-tangible products, & I'll buy your argument

"Alienating customers doesn't matter"? At which point, I stop taking you seriously 4laugh

That would be dandy if Gaia wasn't marketing itself as a FREE online community, when they don't even keep up with the features that don't have a price tag attatched

srry i am bad with keybord plz teach me cry

Oh! Oh! I'm right here! *waves hand* I do absolutely love spending money on gaia items :3
I'm usually busy with school, so i put my hard earned job money into Gaia, 1. for the items and 2. to help the staffers have a nice big paycheck. I'm helping with their American dream xD

There we have it. You said it, you buy it. heart

[Kara Darkholm]

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Kara Darkholm

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Find me one other person who LOOOOOVES spending so much money non non-tangible products, & I'll buy your argument

"Alienating customers doesn't matter"? At which point, I stop taking you seriously 4laugh

That would be dandy if Gaia wasn't marketing itself as a FREE online community, when they don't even keep up with the features that don't have a price tag attatched

srry i am bad with keybord plz teach me cry

Oh! Oh! I'm right here! *waves hand* I do absolutely love spending money on gaia items :3
I'm usually busy with school, so i put my hard earned job money into Gaia, 1. for the items and 2. to help the staffers have a nice big paycheck. I'm helping with their American dream xD

There we have it. You said it, you buy it. heart

xD

Maybe I'm naive and a bit too free with my money, buy I even buy other people items that I'll never get to use, or hell, sometimes even get a thank you. It's all about helping other people out and having fun.

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Hey, go play Maple Story. How many people buy items in there? Go play Grand Chase, where you need to buy an entire character and all possible items for him, with real money.

See, you're just immature, and this proves it. Certain customers don't matter, the customers who aren't willing to pay full money for a valuable item, don't matter. The people who don't actually buy items on gaia, SHOULDN'T matter, but NK is trying to make it so they do.

Stop being an immature little child, go, eat your milk and cookies, grow up a little, and then return to this thread with a mature opinion. Who knows. When you get older you might realize that there are two sides to this battle, and that my side is just as right as yours.[/quote]Which is why I don't play those games, I don't have the extra cash & feel no need to support them surprised IS ANYONE ELSE SEEING A PATTERN HERE?

I'm immature, when you're the one who picks at spelling errors? Hmmm. wink

That's because while we may not be able to buy items constantly, we've been supporting the site for years. We've been advertizing it to our friends. We beta test its features, we become moderators, we're a part of the community. We're every bit as important as those "loyal cutsomers", & just because we can't always afford to support them financially doesn't mean we should be ignored. Gaia didn't set out to become a pay-to-access site, & we just want to be sure they're sticking to their original goal

I find two things hilarous about this. First, you treat me condecendingly & you expect to get a pleasant answer back? You get nowhere in life by talking down to others, & I think that just shows your own lack of maturity. JUst how old are you, sweetie?

Second, our "sides" can't both be right, they're contradictory. They may have parts that agree but in the end they'd send the site in two completely different directions. Besides, if you truly believed that, why waste so much time refuting me just to throw that bit out there? Is it because I insulted your favorite flavor of

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Hey, go play Maple Story. How many people buy items in there? Go play Grand Chase, where you need to buy an entire character and all possible items for him, with real money.

See, you're just immature, and this proves it. Certain customers don't matter, the customers who aren't willing to pay full money for a valuable item, don't matter. The people who don't actually buy items on gaia, SHOULDN'T matter, but NK is trying to make it so they do.

Stop being an immature little child, go, eat your milk and cookies, grow up a little, and then return to this thread with a mature opinion. Who knows. When you get older you might realize that there are two sides to this battle, and that my side is just as right as yours.[/quote]Which is why I don't play those games, I don't have the extra cash & feel no need to support them surprised IS ANYONE ELSE SEEING A PATTERN HERE?

I'm immature, when you're the one who picks at spelling errors? Hmmm. wink

That's because while we may not be able to buy items constantly, we've been supporting the site for years. We've been advertizing it to our friends. We beta test its features, we become moderators, we're a part of the community. We're every bit as important as those "loyal cutsomers", & just because we can't always afford to support them financially doesn't mean we should be ignored. Gaia didn't set out to become a pay-to-access site, & we just want to be sure they're sticking to their original goal

I find two things hilarous about this. First, you treat me condecendingly & you expect to get a pleasant answer back? You get nowhere in life by talking down to others, & I think that just shows your own lack of maturity. JUst how old are [i]you[/i], sweetie?

Second, our "sides" can't both be right, they're contradictory. They may have parts that agree but in the end they'd send the site in two completely different directions. Besides, if you truly believed that, why waste so much time refuting me just to throw that bit out there? Is it because I insulted your favorite flavor of chip?