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is there a god for you

yes 0.59402460456942 59.4% [ 676 ]
no 0.40597539543058 40.6% [ 462 ]
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Maxdom
Jimantha Arfson
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You cannot prove God
But you cannot disprove God


Prove both of those statements.


Disprove both of those statements.


Burden of proof:

You may have not heard of it, but there is something in debate called "burden of proof". It rests on one that makes the original assertion. If one shifts the burden of proof, it is possible they are not to be able to back up their assertions. This fallacy is often associated as a special case of ad ignorantiam or appeal to ignorance or in place of appeal to ignorance as the person in question is possibly stating that since there is no proof against their assertions, their assertion is correct. For more information, visit the following webpages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_%28logical_fallacy%29
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/burden-of-proof.html
http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/fallacy.htm#Appeal%20to%20Ignorance
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#shifting
http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html#Argumentum%20ad%20ignorantiam
http://www.geocities.com/xenu_rules/misc-burden-of-proof.html
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Shifting_the_Burden_of_Proof
http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/logfal-distract-shiftburden.htm
Omega Typhoon
I don't belive in what I cannot see.

then you don't belive in love, friendship, honor,...
Venom3001
Look straight up at noon and you see my God. He provides light and warmth. Science has shown He makes life possible by granting plants the gift photosynthesis.

Thank you.

i agree of course there is a god he provides almost everything that makes us live
Benjamin_the_dragonlord
Venom3001
Look straight up at noon and you see my God. He provides light and warmth. Science has shown He makes life possible by granting plants the gift photosynthesis.

Thank you.

i agree of course there is a god he provides almost everything that makes us live

No children that is the sun...
i believe in A god, not the christian god that so many worship.
BankyPunk
I'm agnostic, but it really bugs me how athiests love to attack believers with bullshit statements like "SHOW ME PROOF OF YOUR SO CALLED GOD"

You militant atheists can be just as bad as the religiously militant people you claim to hate so much.

I know, right???? ^.^ I'm agnostic too. xD
Don Maciavelli
Omega Typhoon
I don't belive in what I cannot see.

then you don't belive in love, friendship, honor,...

you can see that through people but you only see god if you want to
Don Maciavelli
Omega Typhoon
I don't belive in what I cannot see.

then you don't belive in love, friendship, honor,...


Love and friendship is based on fiscal or mental need over some one or thing.

I love Pop.. Fiscal (it tast great, and the caffeinated addictiveness of it.)

My best friend is (Mentally there to support me do to the fact we are a mix of pack and herd animals. : makes One feel more secure about one self.)
it has to be god who is doing this? what a load... it can work scientifically if we understood everything
doctor_logical
Don Maciavelli
Omega Typhoon
I don't belive in what I cannot see.

then you don't belive in love, friendship, honor,...


Love and friendship is based on fiscal or mental need over some one or thing.

I love Pop.. Fiscal (it tast great, and the caffeinated addictiveness of it.)

My best friend is (Mentally there to support me do to the fact we are a mix of pack and herd animals. : makes One feel more secure about one self.)

you can be right but i just wanted to prove her that there are some things you can't see and that doesn't mean that they aren't there. So that makes the "see-and-beleve" argument a bad argument.
Drakmore the malice child
Don Maciavelli
Omega Typhoon
I don't belive in what I cannot see.

then you don't belive in love, friendship, honor,...

you can see that through people but you only see god if you want to

thx i already know that... i just wanted to show that the "see-and-beleve" argument is a bad argument...
How do I know God is real?
How do I know anything is real?
You can't know what is real.
How do I know that statement is true?
That is assuming the statement is true to begin with.
Which clearly goes against...blah, blah, blah......etc.
(First off, when I am talking about God I think of all things that are spiritual and deal with opening up to ideas that are more than physical. I don't myself believe in some big guy sitting on a throne throwing down thunder bolts, or sending people to hell or whatever. It could be things like Tarot, Prayer, Chakra Stones, Meditating (there are many different kinds of meditating) or even forms of positive thinking!)


You are right, 3nodding I am not able to prove it too you, you can only search those things for yourself. smile


You can either investigate miracles for yourself, you can have a go at openly meditating and praying to make yourself a better and happier person.


You can prove it to yourself in so many ways, all you need to do first is decide not to oppose ideas that are contrary to your own.


After that you are free to search the world, yourself, and explore ideas with your own personal peace and freedom of an explorer.

Whether you decide to keep certain ideas or pass them on, it is all your choice and does not matter, you are totally free. smile


And please know that I say (type) all this with the sole intention of presenting you with an idea. You only need use this idea if you see for yourself it to be true, or helpful.
I'm about to share with all of you proof that there is at least one diety out there. It's simple science that proved this really, and the most powerful thing that we know of to exist. The human will! Simple when you think about it. Gather up a whole stadium full of people and have them concentrate on a di and everyone to tell the di to move to a specific number. 9/10 times the di goes to that specific number, the other time it just moves which is still pretty amazing. Now take in that account and figure up how many people. That is, how many people have lived on this earth since the birth of religion that have believed in a diety. Now count in all those people, and you'll have enough human will to create some force in the universe to act as "god."

Personally I don't believe in this, but still. If we were not created by a god, then the will of humanity created a god. Either way, scientifically proven there is a god, we just have to figure out who created who.

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Jarc_The_Mighty
I'm about to share with all of you proof that there is at least one diety out there. It's simple science that proved this really, and the most powerful thing that we know of to exist. The human will! Simple when you think about it. Gather up a whole stadium full of people and have them concentrate on a di and everyone to tell the di to move to a specific number. 9/10 times the di goes to that specific number, the other time it just moves which is still pretty amazing. Now take in that account and figure up how many people. That is, how many people have lived on this earth since the birth of religion that have believed in a diety. Now count in all those people, and you'll have enough human will to create some force in the universe to act as "god."

Personally I don't believe in this, but still. If we were not created by a god, then the will of humanity created a god. Either way, scientifically proven there is a god, we just have to figure out who created who.


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