GIVE ME PROOF OF YOUR SO CALLED "GOD"

is there a god for you

yes	59.4%	[ 676 ]
no	40.6%	[ 462 ]
Total Votes:			[ 1138 ]

[Manirak]

Kanti 3000

Beyond_Oblivion

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

1.) Morality doe snot follow from a deity. If this is true, why isn't morality universal?
2.) Is wanting a stable society (humans being a social species and all) not enough of a reason to have laws and to obey them? Why must there be some devine punishment to keep people in line? People that need some divine threat to keep them in line truly terrify.
3.) Why did everything have to come from a deity? Why couldn't the pre-big bang universe have arisen from nothing?

Beat me to the answer. Dang. And with a better one too...

but as for number three, this may not me an official answer, but personaly the idea of the universe arising from nothing doesn't seem to make much sense to me, which is why I do believe in a diety (granted, that could be seen as making just a little sense. But I like the idea of the unmoveable mover).

So an even more complex object coming from nothing makes more sense? I fail to see the logic in that. Either way, why did it have to come from nothing? Why can't time be non-linear, ultimately, with no beginning or end in the way we'd understand it?

[l o v e d u n e]

Kanti 3000

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

Just thought I'd point out, for all the so called natural laws, the universe is pretty chaotic. Just ask any discordian...
And a natural order doesn't automatically lead to thier being a God, or a designer of the universe.
And for that matter, even if it did, which god would it lead to?

True, but what about Hitler and his belifs, with you theory, we should have never been able to punnish him, because we wer punnishing him on the thought of something higher. With out it there was nothing wrong with what he did.

[Kanti 3000]

Arakeshi

Kanti 3000

Beyond_Oblivion

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

1.) Morality doe snot follow from a deity. If this is true, why isn't morality universal?
2.) Is wanting a stable society (humans being a social species and all) not enough of a reason to have laws and to obey them? Why must there be some devine punishment to keep people in line? People that need some divine threat to keep them in line truly terrify.
3.) Why did everything have to come from a deity? Why couldn't the pre-big bang universe have arisen from nothing?

Beat me to the answer. Dang. And with a better one too...

but as for number three, this may not me an official answer, but personaly the idea of the universe arising from nothing doesn't seem to make much sense to me, which is why I do believe in a diety (granted, that could be seen as making just a little sense. But I like the idea of the unmoveable mover).

So an even more complex object coming from nothing makes more sense? I fail to see the logic in that. Either way, why did it have to come from nothing? Why can't time be non-linear, ultimately, with no beginning or end in the way we'd understand it?

I told you my answer to the question doesn't make much sense either. Although I don't think of it so much as a more complex object coming from nothing, but rather a nonlinear being creating the universe and time as we know it....
Do i have proof? No. Thats just my idea, heh.

[Beyond_Oblivion]

Beyond_Oblivion

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

1.) Morality doe snot follow from a deity. If this is true, why isn't morality universal?
2.) Is wanting a stable society (humans being a social species and all) not enough of a reason to have laws and to obey them? Why must there be some devine punishment to keep people in line? People that need some divine threat to keep them in line truly terrify.
3.) Why did everything have to come from a deity? Why couldn't the pre-big bang universe have arisen from nothing?

I am guessing that you are going to ignore me.

[Kanti 3000]

Beyond_Oblivion

Beyond_Oblivion

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

1.) Morality doe snot follow from a deity. If this is true, why isn't morality universal?
2.) Is wanting a stable society (humans being a social species and all) not enough of a reason to have laws and to obey them? Why must there be some devine punishment to keep people in line? People that need some divine threat to keep them in line truly terrify.
3.) Why did everything have to come from a deity? Why couldn't the pre-big bang universe have arisen from nothing?

I am guessing that you are going to ignore me.

Your answer kinda answers her question about hitler rather well...

[Beyond_Oblivion]

Mew Foxy

Kanti 3000

Mew Foxy

Just look around you can't say this all apered out of nothening, and what would be the point of laws? what rules should we fallow what's to say rape, steeling, ext. is not what's truly right. Without God there is no order.

Just thought I'd point out, for all the so called natural laws, the universe is pretty chaotic. Just ask any discordian...
And a natural order doesn't automatically lead to thier being a God, or a designer of the universe.
And for that matter, even if it did, which god would it lead to?

True, but what about Hitler and his belifs, with you theory, we should have never been able to punnish him, because we wer punnishing him on the thought of something higher. With out it there was nothing wrong with what he did.

Why do we need to punish him on the basis of it went against such and such a deity? After all, I am sure that there are other deities taht people worship which would have been rather happy with his actions. No, Hitler was not punished because of some higher being, he was punished (not really, he shot himself in a bunker) because he destabalized society.

[acedavidson]

Give me a proof of anything in science. A posteriori argument = not a proof. By definition.

[Kaiosuke37]

cookie~in~a~cake~factory

Venom3001

Look straight up at noon and you see my God. He provides light and warmth. Science has shown He makes life possible by granting plants the gift photosynthesis.

Thank you.

science has shown that god didn't creat earth or anything. It can all be explained if u use science not god.

You make me laugh^_^

[Beyond_Oblivion]

acedavidson

Give me a proof of anything in science. A posteriori argument = not a proof. By definition.

Well, I cannot give you proof, but I can give you objective evidence. But what does proving science have to do with this anyways? I would settle (and the OP probably would also) for objective evidence suggesting a deity rather than proof of a deity.

I find that 'proof' is often used in place of evidence mostly because evidence is 'proof' to most people. Or something like that.

EDIT: Though, I suppose that an inductive proof might be workable for science. 'If I observe event x occurs in this manner n times, and it occurs the n+1 time...'

[Don Maciavelli]

Beyond_Oblivion

Don Maciavelli

If you can give me the proof of the existince LOVE i will give you the proof of the extinise of GOD...

Have you ever heard of neurochemistry? Amazing subject detailing how certain chemical balance lead to certain emotions. Thus, through a detailed examination of a subjects brains chemical state, it is possible to determine what they are feeling. There is your proof for the existence of love, it is a chemical reaction in your brain just like every other emotion and thought you have. A very complex reaction we haven't figured out in full detail, but a physical, chemical reaction that you can observe.

i know but i mean TRUE love..
that chemical reaction was the same when the person saw her mother of his wife or his best friend....

[Lehr]

Don Maciavelli

Beyond_Oblivion

Don Maciavelli

If you can give me the proof of the existince LOVE i will give you the proof of the extinise of GOD...

Have you ever heard of neurochemistry? Amazing subject detailing how certain chemical balance lead to certain emotions. Thus, through a detailed examination of a subjects brains chemical state, it is possible to determine what they are feeling. There is your proof for the existence of love, it is a chemical reaction in your brain just like every other emotion and thought you have. A very complex reaction we haven't figured out in full detail, but a physical, chemical reaction that you can observe.

i know but i mean TRUE love..
that chemical reaction was the same when the person saw her mother of his wife or his best friend....

That is true love...

Or did you want:



True Love is a classic Japanese bishoujo H game, developed by Software House Parsley, and released by Otaku Publishing, Ltd. The game is considered by many hentai fans to be a classic.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Love

[Beyond_Oblivion]

Mew Foxy

Lehr

Beyond_Oblivion

Don Maciavelli

If you can give me the proof of the existince LOVE i will give you the proof of the extinise of GOD...

Have you ever heard of neurochemistry? Amazing subject detailing how certain chemical balance lead to certain emotions. Thus, through a detailed examination of a subjects brains chemical state, it is possible to determine what they are feeling. There is your proof for the existence of love, it is a chemical reaction in your brain just like every other emotion and thought you have. A very complex reaction we haven't figured out in full detail, but a physical, chemical reaction that you can observe.

They also found that with out the person that causes the chemical that makes love around for 23 days it decays.
causing you not to love any more.

You call that love! More like lust if you ask me. Love isn't just an atraction it's saying you'll be with someone forever, no matter what. But considering the way people act now love is just an exscuse for sex.

Define love.

I am going to go with:

[url=http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=love]http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

a strong positive emotion of regard and affection

Thus, what I laid out for physical evidence of love works.

[J E L L O P O K E]

They shall scream
"The Bible"
Written under God
By man

Such trust
They garnish
Upon the Men
Prone and Proven
To lies.

o 3o

[I-Am-Lawliet-Ryuuzaki]

FogSage

God is a massive badger that lives underground. When he's not happy, he makes the crude oil supplies dry up, and also causes things like hurricanes and pregnancies. You should be VERY afraid of him.

rofl

[Beyond_Oblivion]

Don Maciavelli

Beyond_Oblivion

Don Maciavelli

If you can give me the proof of the existince LOVE i will give you the proof of the extinise of GOD...

Have you ever heard of neurochemistry? Amazing subject detailing how certain chemical balance lead to certain emotions. Thus, through a detailed examination of a subjects brains chemical state, it is possible to determine what they are feeling. There is your proof for the existence of love, it is a chemical reaction in your brain just like every other emotion and thought you have. A very complex reaction we haven't figured out in full detail, but a physical, chemical reaction that you can observe.

i know but i mean TRUE love..
that chemical reaction was the same when the person saw her mother of his wife or his best friend....

Beyond_Oblivion

Define love.

I am going to go with:

[url=http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=love]http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

a strong positive emotion of regard and affection

Thus, what I laid out for physical evidence of love works.

Additionally, it was not the same reaction for all of those individuals. Unless you also feel sexual attraction to all of those individuals, I suppose. But anyways, how was it the same reaction? How is it not love?