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wahmbulance I so agree dhat Phin Phang should be a gold shop wahmbulance . And if they wanna earn money, do it dha proper way! they're lyk SO overdoing it sad . Anyone agrees? biggrin

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wahmbulance I so agree dhat Phin Phang should be a gold shop wahmbulance . And if they wanna earn money, do it dha proper way! they're lyk SO overdoing it sad . Anyone agrees? biggrin
AGREED TOTALLY AGREED *gives cookie*
I really hate paying for the fishes just to let them die in a way.
Phin phang should really be a gold shop.
I pay a little bit to support gaia, and this is what it gives back?
over priced items that pretty much wouldn't be much use?
I used to care for gaia, but now its a shame.
so yeah, you can say i agree

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While I do not agree with the highly rude and ungrateful tone of the OP, I do agree on several points regardless.

I just want to see the Inventories fixed. It's a royal PIA to have to organize stuff, only to find that everything has gotten out of place. =/
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i haven't been playing gaia as long as most of the people in this thread, but i've been spending $10 and $25 dollars at a time just to get the nice items i want. and it really makes me angry because i could be spending that money on colored pencils or saving up for a photoshop drawing pad for my art shop on gaia. I have to say, the only good things on gaia i can think of on the top of my head were the rallys before they sold off body decals and stuff to movies, gaia before they sold off to movies in general (i mean seriously... what worthy items have gotten from these things? ooo! im gunna wear this kung fu panda belt forever!) i mean, its a good idea, but it's really annoying after awhile! Another thing is the recent update where you can join your friends in rallies, towns, and forums just by a click of a button. But other things like the Phin phang shop and the MTV shop even the different movie worlds are complete sell outs that no one really enjoys, they just do it for the items. And this one really gets me angry. The glitch where you click on "customize me" and it brings you to your profile? URG! and what about when you finally get to your customize page and you click on an item with a fairily long (or even if its just two) different equip items and an ad covers them up so you can select the one you want? so you have to refresh the page or go to a different selection. also, you know what would be cool? if there was a setting that you could change equip items so you see them by color. kinda like how TekTek.org is set up. That would be kinda cool. But what gaia should do, is instead of changing everything THEN telling us, they should maybe setup a beta gaia that has all the new features, and setup polls along with them. Lastly, the profile in general. Whenever i look for a new profile layout and find a really cool one, i cant use it because it's an old layout and i have a new profile setting. This really sucks because there are only so many new profile layouts, which lessens the number of good ones.

Felifae's Wife

I read all of this, and I have a few things to say, both against that and Gaia.
Evolving items: Sure, the only way they got into the market is by people paying money, but that's not how they stay there. They stay there by people buying them with gold. This long black hair? A Furugasa. It costed me 28k. That's not much at all, especialy compared to old MCs.
Aquariums: There are some fish that appear in Daily Chance, but other than that, I see your point.
Glitches: My father works as a Data Base Programmer. One of the best in the country, may I add. If he makes a mistake, even a small one, he risks his job. Gaia has "database problems" on almost a weekly basis, then takes their time fixing them. My mesage to gaia: Get better data base guys. Also, TEST THINGS. GLITCHES THAT COULD BE FOUND WITH TESTING ARE UNNESECARY, AND JUST MAKE IT LOOK SLOPPY.
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Do you want to know the real reason I joined gaia? The real reason I stayed on? Why I'm still here?

In 2005 I started having horrible panic attacks. I suffered day in and day out, episode after episode. My whole life was one big nightmare, I woke up just to want to sleep again. The most positive thought I had was to dream again, but then I flipped the T.V. on one day. At first nothing changed, and then I found an anime show. As I watched I began to lose my reality, nothing mattered...and my anxiety slipped away. Suddenly, I wasn't fighting to live. You see, the only thing that kept the panic attacks from racking me to the bone was anime. It sounds insane, it's sounds like a large stretch, but it was true. Eventually, I got medication for the attacks, but that's not the point.
The point is, I found Gaia through word of mouth and got addicted to it because it took me away from reality.

This will sound like a sob-story, and some may make fun, hell, maybe some will have it in common, but I had a very abusive childhood. I suffered all forms of abuse until the year of my graduation, 2006, but it didn't end the trauma. I've been going to therapy trying to refind myself and some days I'll come here to take my mind off the stress. And then I get these users that cyber, or do something else stupid to add to the annoyance... It's a small example, I'm sure there are more, but I'm probably running out of space.

Anyway, I hope things get better.
...because I'd hate to leave this place. I mean REALLY, I'd hate to leave this place.
And losing another old member, especially because we are already dwindling, is not something that Gaia can afford.

An older member of Gaia(2004)
Age: 21
Signing off...


Awwww -huggles- Kind of know how you feel a bit. I too have bad panic attacks and horrific childhood. Just remember there is a bright side so keep your chin up and have a good day, ok? ^^
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You so said everything many users are feeling right now.

God, it's sad that they probably won't even listen to this reasonable, well thought out, well written thread. .-.


Not even with regards to the battle system - but to all items in general. When I first joined, the only money they asked from users was for the MCs and Gaia store.

Now, ALL aquarium items, new "evolving" items - everything cool (and of course, plenty of things that are not) now enourage us to buy Gaia Cash Cards.

I can see how Gaia needs $ to operate, and the more popular it gets the more expensive it is to run, but movie and TV tie-ins, quests and events bring in <b>Hollywood money</b>. We're talking quite possibly in the millions. Also, more users being in more ad revenue.

There is no excuse for their shoddy customer service via phone or the need for us to wait a week for an email reply on an issue. They get by with the fewest possible employees (incl. devs) solely to profit as much as possible with customer service last on the list of necessities.

It's all about money, people. To anyone who stands up for Gaia saying that they need the $ "for servers", do some research - there's a reason they keep their company private. If we were shared the real details (rather than the company estimates from 3rd parties), we'd be less apt to buy Gaia cards, that's for sure. Same goes for any other game you can easily "support" at your local Target store.

Why do you think Benny came out? Because Kaya's value plummeted and there was less incentive. I estimate a brand new Cash Card "gift item", Benny's replacement, to be out by the end of the year.

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When all the other girls wanted to be princesses..
I absolutely, whole heartedly agree with this.. I might not be an OLDER user, but I've witnessed the steady decline and I've become disgusted with this whole site, it's impossible to quest or do anything yerself on here now.. everyone is holding onto their gold, why? Because Gaia's bigwigs ruined the economy on here scream and it just isn't effing fair at all. The cash shop was a sad day for Gaia indeed.. and it's just been getting worse. Everyday I log on, I dread the next CASH update.. or the next lousy feature that will either cost money or simply be idiotic. Games don't even work for me half the time, yet they refuse to fix them. Friends of mine get kicked out of the games, forums are littered with cyber invites, people get hacked everyday, yet the mods DO nothing.
..I kind of wanted to be a vampire.

Gaian

You captured what people are feeling so well.
I miss how Gaia was in 03, when it was actually free.
Now I'm in college and as you said money's tight. I can't do much.
But do you think that Gaia really cares?
Cause some people will always pay. So what do they need us for?
Oh yeah, about that Phin Phang shop, it kind of irks me. The first time i saw it in the gaia shops i was like " oh cool! it's a gold shop! maybe i'll adore it like the other shops!" I click on it and what do i found out? IT'S ALL CASH! It was a sad and might i say MISLEADING experience. There are fish for 499 cash or more. I could buy maybe 3-4 evolution items from the cash shop that will-not-die. So yes, I agree with everyone here when they say Phin Phang should be a gold store. Sorry if i just restated what most people probably think. XD

P.S. If you want me to delete this post .NY, please tell me and I will. No harm done if you ask nicely, because i don't know if you want repeats XD.
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Well, I think that Gaia is making quite a chunk of revenue off it's ads... and I've noticed the recent influx of pop-up ads too... Does Gaia have stock or something that they need to increase revenue for?

Oh right... I heard of someone who sold off his car to spend it on Gaia and then got hacked. Therefore, he got his car stolen on Gaia...

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This thread is so true! I too have heard of unfair bannings. I had a friend once who was banned for "hacking," even though she was the one hacked. So not only did she lose her good items and gold, but she lost everything. Gaia should really consider unbanning some of these people.
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hrm. here goes nothing.

for those who don't know me, i'm a developer for gaia, i've been with gaia for four and a half years, pretty much from the start of gaia being "official". many of the features that you all use every day, and/or complain about... i've had a hand in. you're welcome and i'm sorry. to put it in perspective... the day i interviewed V0 ran into the conference room i was talking to Lanzer in, interrupting us to cheer about hitting 600k registrations. the day i accepted the position, gaia hit 700k. today, we get twice that many people actually visiting the site in a month.

anyways.... i'm going to attempt to "respond" to the first post, which was well written and detailed, but i'll try to keep it short. i'm not going to respond to everything, but shed some light on what i can.

there seems to be a focus in the "so many broken promises" about all of gaia's downfalls, mishaps, "stupid" features, and lack of updates / fixes. what seems to be forgotten is all the good we've done over the years, and continue to do on a daily basis. the features we design, are always meant to better the user experience. some people may not like every feature, but then again, it's evrything to we can do . some of the features released may be a little buggy while we iron things out. some are released (like aquarium) that users automatically make assumptions about, not allowing the feature to develop. it's those assumptions, and those kind of narrow views that i see when i read the first post. there was one line of thanks for all the hard work we put in, the rest is complaining about just about everything.

we're not perfect, we don't pretend to be. we are driven to making every feature as good as it can be, and driven to keep things moving. think of the things we've done that have enhanced the user experience that aren't even mentioned. did anyone notice that the forum that we're currently posting in has grown with the site? or all the tools to fins your friends, communicate with each other, all the different ways to have fun? item updates used to happen once a month. sometimes less. now they happen... what? every few days? evolving items, store updates, cash shop, fish, cars, sponsorship items... those items and programming to make that stuff work doesn't come easy, but we get no thanks, only hatred for the details of it.

things have changed over time... now there's a cash shop. okay. sponsorships, sure.... what most people don't understand is that it's all part of the growth of gaia as a whole. when i started, there were eight people (not including the 50 or so mods at the time) working their asses off for gaia. now? well over a hundred (with hundreds of mods backing us up). users online then? 6k. yeah. that's right. six. now? 60k, all day every day. we burst to over a 100k. millions of unique users each month. if you do the math, we're barely staying afloat keeping enough people around to support how much gaia has frown over the years.

...and that growth costs money. we do everything we can to take as much of the growth pains away from the user experience as we can. does anyone stop and think how much it costs to keep gaia running? the hundreds of servers, artists, developers, bandwitdh, support staff? none of that comes for free. so we sell items to you in cash shop for real money... has anyone noticed that every one of those items is always an uber-item? with different poses, different states... hell... some of them evolve over time. we just didn't take an everyday item, and make you pay real money for it, that's not the way things run. if the decision is made by the powers that be that we have to make items to sell for real money, we do everything in our creative power to make those items worth every penny.



do me a favor about zOMG, don't knock it until you've tried it. i've been working twelve hour days, nights, & weekends for over a year now, pouring my heart & soul into this game. and it's not just me, the whole team has. we've created a game for you that would take a normal gaming company with twice as many people twice as long (or more). and we're giving it to you for free. yes, free. no subscription, no startup costs, no fees. you're angry that we "promised" that we'd have it out earlier? as someone who was part of the plan, it was never our intention to take so long to get it done. we just had a hard time estimating how much time it would take, how much effort it would be to make the game we set out to make. we live, we learned, and any extra time was spent to make everything work the way we really wanted it, and adding in as much as we could squeeze in.

let me reiterate something here. FREE. end of discussion. the items that will be sold for cash will be things to make the game better if you feel like paying for it. you won't need any of them, and just in case you do, we'll be dropping them as loot in game. simple as that.

for everyone who's been waiting for the beginning... thank you for being patient. hopefully, it'll be worth the wait. cool

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i'd just like to point out that we do care about the users, we do listen... it's just hard to communicate every little detail about what hundreds of people are working on. maybe some of the features we've released aren't that popular. maybe some are due for an upgrade... believe me, we know, we've got lists of projects / upgrades / rewrites that span out two years. but, from our side, every day we have to step back and look at the bigger picture. the site needs to stay running, scheduled updates need to happen, and we only have so many people who can put in so much time to make everything happen.

we're doing everything we can.



kay so i onl read up to a little bit ut as soon asi got to like the hird paragraph or something i had to stop cuz i knew you were lying
you said you made everything as good as it can be, and i know before that you saidsomething about narrow veiws on the aquariaum.
ahh durrrr clearly we dislike it you completly screwed up the idea, my mom won't pay for anything over the internet and i live in canada so i'm scerwed i can't get cardsoranything, the least you could do is put cards in canada for gaia cash.
ANYWAY bacxk to the aquarium. the fish die. i realize it could get cluttered and gross or whatever but if your going to make it that way couldn't you at least make fish gaia gold? then well pay huge bucks for crap in the marketplace.
i LOVE fish. my mom won't let me get a realone. so i saw the announccment and i was uber happy then everything cost gaia cash and i was dissapointed. it is NOT as good as it can be, it can be plenty better i'm not even going to bother reading the rest.

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