Yep! I do believe in discipline though. I don't think anyone other than the parents can, but I see nothing wrong with spanking a child when they do something really bad. There is a line but really you can't just treat them like adults when they misbehave. They don't understand things like why they shouldn't eat all the cookies in the jar before dinner because the effects are long-term. Them not eating dinner doesn't concern them, the cookies tasted good and they don't immediately get sick. They don't understand "healthy." So you give them a time out. When they do something really bad that even a time out can't treat, you spank them, not to hurt them, just to give them a memory of what happens when they do that. The other problem I see with most adults and their children is that when the kid throws a tantrum in public, they yell at them and make it worse or give in. What they should do (and it usually works too) is ignore the kid, pick them up, put them in the shopping cart, and keep going, tune them out. Why fight with them? It makes no sense. If you know what's good for them, prove it, don't tell them. They don't understand what's "good" for them. Children are simple, if there is a problem child it stems from the parenting. Teachers have so many problems with children now cause there's no discipline at home and they are legally not allowed to do anything to discipline the child beyond sending the kid out or giving a detention. It's kinda hard when half the class is "problem children." The parents don't want to discipline their kids and when the teachers tell them they have to, they yell at the teachers and claim that the kids are fine at home. [/rant]