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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:26 pm
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humble_gypsy_traveller Got this info from a rec user... You might want to pay attention to this...especially the part that they lied about reimbursing gcash if a person deletes their account or gets banned... Quote: "Modification of these Terms. Gaia reserves the right to modify or discontinue the Site with or without notice to you. Gaia will not be liable to you or any third party if we elect to exercise our right to discontinue the Site. Gaia reserves the right, at our discretion, to change, modify, add, or remove portions of these Terms at any time by posting an updated version on the Website." This is a new addition to the Gaia ToS, which didn't apparently warrant any sort of announcement or notice for its users. In legal speak, this means "We'll shut down when we want and you have no recourse for demanding data from the forums or your profile and that you have no ability to demand a refund for unredeemed GCash or newly-spent GCash." The last is to defend that they can add this into the ToS without telling anyone.
Oh wow!! You say this is a recent addition? That's kind of scary. I always thought that they'd just continue on indefinitely as long as there was a decent population here. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:38 pm
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Camwen humble_gypsy_traveller Got this info from a rec user... You might want to pay attention to this...especially the part that they lied about reimbursing gcash if a person deletes their account or gets banned... Quote: "Modification of these Terms. Gaia reserves the right to modify or discontinue the Site with or without notice to you. Gaia will not be liable to you or any third party if we elect to exercise our right to discontinue the Site. Gaia reserves the right, at our discretion, to change, modify, add, or remove portions of these Terms at any time by posting an updated version on the Website." This is a new addition to the Gaia ToS, which didn't apparently warrant any sort of announcement or notice for its users. In legal speak, this means "We'll shut down when we want and you have no recourse for demanding data from the forums or your profile and that you have no ability to demand a refund for unredeemed GCash or newly-spent GCash." The last is to defend that they can add this into the ToS without telling anyone. Oh wow!! You say this is a recent addition? That's kind of scary. I always thought that they'd just continue on indefinitely as long as there was a decent population here.
Nope...seems like a dirty politician...take the money and run. Well as I'm too lazy to get the origin of the info...I'm guessing this is recent. I'm not going to give the contact link here...but I pm'd you the link to the thread...you can ask the poster for clarification if you'd like. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:40 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:46 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:52 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:55 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:16 pm
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:43 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:57 am
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As for the TOS change, I've been spouting enough about them building up to cut and run that I'll leave it at that. Everything points towards building up money as quick as possible.
People are being banned right and left now too. Enough so that the daily unique visitors has begun to decrease. Many are amazed since they are paying cash – they don't realize that every member is now in a position where they are being itemized. Gaia is saying this person is hurting our bottom line, a guaranteed loss of one member is better than losing the ten he insulted, BANNED! Gaia also obviously wants to cut fat, if you are not putting enough money into the site, you're flippantly expendable.
And then there are the false anonymous gifts. The billion mythril coins are supposedly an element of trying to keep loyal members around. Huge items turning up in the garbage dive and anonymously gifted are being taken from permanently banned accounts by the site (which while awful, also means that they understand the inflation because if they spawned a new one, it would deflate the economy by increasing technical supply). When you get a supermassive item in the garbage, check out the person donating it, it's almost always a banned, closed, or gaia employee.
As for non-US members, they might actually be able to sue. See, here in the US and some other countries, a TOS element that basically reads as you're screwed and have no recourse is binding. However, some countries have regulations and laws that make such elements non-binding because they are at heart "get out of jail free cards." So if that happens, I would suggest anyone look into your nation's laws regarding TOS adherences.
I sincerely think that gaia has a marked pair of flipping points on this site. The first will be when revenue falls below a set ratio to expenses. At that point we're going to see a massive flood of gimmicks. If it goes back above the ratio, they will continue on until it falls again. Lather, rinse, and repeat. When it stops working, they will then hit the second ratio point. This will be marked with the final flood of gimmicks paired with huge numbers of bans (especially because TOS or no, a banned member has even less recourse than an end-of-site user could have) and total disregard for the function of the site. We might also see terminations of employment at gaia as they trim off unneeded staff. And then they will spontaneously shutdown after a designated time. I know it seems very specific, but this is just the loose plan a lot of companies online choose to go out.
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:32 am
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Inedible_Animals With in the first week of the cash pm's I had already put the admin account on ignore. It feels like the two sides of the site are at war, there is the cash side throwing gold gens out left and right. Then, there is the weird gold sink events trying to burry all the gold the gens are pumping out, in what I assume is an attempt to save the sinking economy. I was optimistic two months I was back, and I would like to be optimistic about the whole thing, but they keep ignoring peoples requests/complaints while the economy continues to inflate. I would check out this "New Site", but it's name is weird and dirty and it makes me not want to check it out. -_-" This other site you mentioned sounds nice, but it doesn't really show what it looks like with out sign up. Is it a basic forum site or does it have avatars?
I know what you mean about wanting to be optimistic but just losing hope that things will get better.
To answer your question about the other site (recolor.me) - it is an avatar site. So far it's really basic. It has a lot fewer items but you have way more control over the base of your avy. I think they named it recolor because it has two color sliders (one for hue and one for saturation) which you can use on your base and on any item - whenever you feel like changing it.
Here's a pic of my avy over there (I've changed it slightly since saving this version)
Exxos I sincerely think that gaia has a marked pair of flipping points on this site.....
Interesting theory. It does seem to be headed that way but will it be fairly fast or very slow? I feel like Gaia is filling up with people who hang out on the sidelines of threads and wave around their "end of times" cardboard posters. lol - My problem is I just can't decide if they're a bit crazy? or I'm one of them. 4laugh ninja |
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:20 pm
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:58 pm
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