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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:07 am
Welcome to the Hokkaido-ben General Discussion!

This is where we discuss everything related to the Japanese hokkaido-ben dialect, including, but not limited to:

-differences in grammar, vocabulary, pronunciation, and other things between hokkaido-ben and Tokyo-ben
-recommendations for dictionaries, websites, etc
that help you learn Hokkaido-ben
and everything else about the Japanese dialect of the Rural Hokkaido island region.


Hokkaido's residents are (relatively) recent arrivals from all parts of Japan, and its dialect reflects these varied influences. Features of Hokkaido-ben include a distinctive vocabulary and less prounounced differences between masculine and feminine speech. The following are some examples of words and phrases common in Hokkaido that are uncommon in standard Japanese

~This dialect is used on the far north island of Hokkaido.
Number of speakers confused
sub dialects: (see forth post)
Relation to other dialects:Tohoku-ben, Miyagi-ben, kansai-ben, tokyo-ben  
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:33 pm
WEBSITES
General info -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_dialects

here's a site that a has picture cards
http://www.karenfiles.com/index.php?p=15

http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~hera/hokkaido/ben_e.html
if any one else can find anything else post it here  

419scambaiterKoko


419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:27 pm
anime 's(and anime characters) that use Hokkaido-ben:
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Saikano: The last love song on this little planet/she, the ultimate weapon
figure 17  
PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:01 pm
* JSL= Japanese standard language or Tokyo-ben*
<P>
-be or -bee as volitional suffix (common to Tohoku-ben)
dabe isn't it (Jsl:desho)
sa - often used instead of ne (final particle soliciting confirmation or agreement)
dabe sa -- (roughly) indeed, isn't it? (JSL:desho ne)
o-ban desu good evening (common to Tohoku-ben)(jsl: Konban wa)
shibareru freezing cold weather, hard freeze
namara very (JSL: Totemo)
kowai I am tired.
(gomi o) nageru discard (trash) literally, "to throw" trash
waya dreadful (jsL: Taihen)
menkoi cute (JSL : KAWAII!)
futtsuku - sticking to, adhering to
tekkurikaeru - stumble and fall (skiing)
bakuru - swap, trade
hankakusai fool (JSL;BAKA)
zangi fried chicken nuggets
dosanko Hokkaido native, 3 or more generations
and some
AZUMASHII
comfortble
ANBAI
condition donna anbai da : How about you?
BAKURU
[ exchange ]ome no boushi to bakutte kere-Please exchange to your hat.
BANPEI
[ guard , caretaker ]
BE
[ let's ] kaimono sa igu be -Let's go shopping.
BESA
[ will ] sonna toko de netetara kaze higu besa-You will catch a cold ,keep to sleeping such a place
BOKKO
[ pole ]
CHITTCHE
[ small ](JSL: chisai)
CHOSU
[ touch , use ] oreno pasokon katteni chosuna yo -Don't use my personal computer your own comvention.
DAKENDOMO
[ but ](JSL biggrin akedo, Kedo, Demo)
DENEKKA
(DENAIKAI)
[ seems ] kowareta n denekka-It's seems broken.
denaikai- That's good .
DONPA
[ same age ]
GONBO HORU
[ be unmanageable ]
HAKU
[ put on ] (case of gloves)JSL only use by something put on legs ,shoes , socks , stockings or boots and so on.
HANKAKUSAI
[ foolish ](JSL: BAKA) A:kaasan! Pachinko sa igu kara jenko kasite kere B:nani hankakusai koto ittende neyo hontoni : A:Hey mam! please lent some money for Pachinko. B:What do you say such a foolish thing to me?
JOPPIN
[ key ]a(jsl: kagi) joppin katte nere You must sleep with key rock.
KAPPAGASU
[ fall over ] (full on grass , dish , bucket,and so on)
KERE
[ please ](jsl: Kudasai) tasugete kere!(jsl:Tasukete Kudasai!) : Please help me!
KISHA
[ train ] (JSL use DENSHA at present)

KOKU
[ do ] (KOITA=did(past tense) he koku na! Don't whine!
KOWAI
[ tired ](jsl: tsukareta)(does not means afraid)
MENKOI
[ pretty , lovely ] ( Jsl: Kawaii)

MOCHOKOI
[ tickle ](jsl:kusuguru)
NAGERU
[ throw away ] (case of garbage or trash ,and snow)
(JSL. : SUTERU)
NAICHI
[ honshu ] (does not mean home country)

NAMARA
[ very ] namara omosire :That's very ntreresting
(jsl: totemo omoshiroi (omoshiro)
NAMAZURUI
[ unfair ]
(jsl:kegarawashii, fubyoudou, anfea, katateochi)
NAMOKAMO
[ everything , whatever ]
(jsl: isshiki, issai, jijibutsubutsu, monogoto,/ ikani, nannari, nanra, nantohyakuji)
NANBO
[ how much , how long , how old ]
ome toshi nanbo yo-How old are you
NANMO
[ well ,guess ](jsl: jaa,jaan)
NANMOSA
[ your welcome ]
A: yah- doumo ne B: nanmosa A: Oh thank you. B: Your welcome.
OBAN DESU
[ Good evening ](jsl: Konban wa) (salutation)
ODATSU
[ be triumph ]
SA
1.(add front of places word) [ to , at ]
sapporo sa itteta nada I was going to sapporo.
2.(add end of verb) a emphasis word symply
okka ga kaidan kara ochita sa-My wife fell down the stairs.
SHIBARERU
[ very cold ] (like a freeze)

SHITAKKE
[ then , therefore ]
(Jsl: dakara)
SHINASAI
[ Would you like to ] (not means must ,have to , ought to do )
samenai uchi ni tabe nasai-Would you like to eat it befor grow cold.
SOTTARA
[ such as (worthless) ]
sottara mon dakke iran deya- I don't need such as good for nothing.
SHO
isn't it ] (JSL : DESHOU)kore oishii sho- delicious isn't it ?
YA(oh)(jsl: aa)

(YANYA)
[ oh ])(jsl: aa) ya- musuko san oggigu natta ne Oh! your son looks like growing tall man.
yanya wasure teta wa- I've forgotten it.
YATTO
[ soon , rush, hurry up, at once ] yatto ogire -Wake up at once.
YUMBE
[ last night ]
Zenko(money)(jsl:kane/okane)
Namara Zenko hoshi desu (I want a lot of money, said by an old woman)
 

419scambaiterKoko


419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:16 pm
* Grammar note: the second syllable is pronounced with a strong accent.*
Ie: mr. takeda would be mr. taKEda*<P>  
PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:19 am
wow this topic died fast!  

419scambaiterKoko


419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:12 pm
hahahah

Obaa-chan:Namara Zenko hoshi desu!(if you are not of elderly age you will be laughed at for using this phrase)
Yumiko: KORE NAMAZURUI BESA!
obaa-chan:SOTTARA mon dakke iran deya!  
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:34 pm
Kokoroki
hahahah

Obaa-chan:Namara Zenko hoshi desu!(if you are not of elderly age you will be laughed at for using this phrase)
Yumiko: KORE NAMAZURUI BESA!
obaa-chan:SOTTARA mon dakke iran deya!


here's a couple examples if anyone is confused whee  

419scambaiterKoko


Chikiya

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:04 am
I'd like to learn the Hokkaido dialect some time, but maybe when my general Japanese has got better.  
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:18 pm
Chikiya
I'd like to learn the Hokkaido dialect some time, but maybe when my general Japanese has got better.



biggrin whee whee 4laugh 4laugh 4laugh 4laugh YAY some wants to learn this dialect yay!
cheese_whine  

419scambaiterKoko


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:35 pm
Koko.DK
hokkaido-ben dialect
Isn't saying that a little redundent? xd And I can't learn any in roumaji.
 
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:34 pm
Hermonie Urameshi
Koko.DK
hokkaido-ben dialect
Isn't saying that a little redundent? xd And I can't learn any in roumaji.


there was a kanji for "NAMARA" but since my home computer doesn't have the font I can't give it to use I know most were in hiragana and katakana.

I need to find to forum thingy again...  

419scambaiterKoko


The_0ther_Account

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:25 pm
I think I'd better improve my general Japanese first...  
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:08 pm
I want ot learn some japanese. But he way I learn it is by looking at the words while hearing it beening pronounced, I remember more that way. But I might learn some your way too. 3nodding  

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