Clarification on Wicca

[Bastemhet]

What is eclectic Wicca? Is this possible? Do Wiccans worship other gods besides the Lord and Lady of the isles?  

[rmcdra]

Bastemhet

What is eclectic Wicca? Is this possible?

Something made up and doesn't exist. In fact it's a contradiction since Wicca is an orthopraxy.

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Do Wiccans worship other gods besides the Lord and Lady of the isles?

They are not prohibited from worshiping other Gods.  

[Taliah]

Better name for it is eclectic neo-pagan. Wiccans do worship the Lord and Lady of the Isles. But those who get fed misinformation tend to take the name Wicca because it sounds cool, and use it for their eclectic neo-pagan practices.

I'm pretty sure that's right, although I'm sure someone else may come along and touch it up or make it more concise.

Edit: Or beat me to it. lol  

[Bastemhet]

rmcdra

Bastemhet

What is eclectic Wicca? Is this possible?

Something made up and doesn't exist. In fact it's a contradiction since Wicca is an orthopraxy.

That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure.

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Do Wiccans worship other gods besides the Lord and Lady of the isles?

They are not prohibited from worshiping other Gods.

Is it valid to worship other gods in a Wiccan ritual context?  

[rmcdra]

Bastemhet

Is it valid to worship other gods in a Wiccan ritual context?

I don't know how to answer this. I would say no because there's compatibility issues that must be addressed and even they you are forcing a god into a role/context that is not designed for them.  

[ShadowCatSoul]

I, personally, am not Wiccan nor do I know any real true Wiccans. That I know of, so my knowledge on the subject is limited. However, Wica is only Gardnerian and to some extent I believe Alexandrian. Anything else is not Wiccan. Also, I don't believe there are restrictions on who you can or can't worship. I could, however, be wrong on that last part.  

[TeaDidikai]

Bastemhet

Is it valid to worship other gods in a Wiccan ritual context?

According to the Alexandrians and Gards I know personally, no. How much that is a function of personal opinion verses Orthopraxy is up in the air.

ShadowCatSoul

However, Wica is only Gardnerian and to some extent I believe Alexandrian. Anything else is not Wiccan.

And then there is Kingstone, Central Vally Wica and other lineaged traditions.  

[ShadowCatSoul]

TeaDidikai

Bastemhet

Is it valid to worship other gods in a Wiccan ritual context?

According to the Alexandrians and Gards I know personally, no. How much that is a function of personal opinion verses Orthopraxy is up in the air.

ShadowCatSoul

However, Wica is only Gardnerian and to some extent I believe Alexandrian. Anything else is not Wiccan.

And then there is Kingstone, Central Vally Wica and other lineaged traditions.

My bad, Tea. I was always taught that those two were the only real Wica traditions.  

[TeaDidikai]

ShadowCatSoul

My bad, Tea. I was always taught that those two were the only real Wica traditions.

No worries. They are by far the most common. But any lineaged tradition that maintains the orthopraxy can easily be considered of the Wica.  

[too2sweet]

TeaDidikai

Bastemhet

Is it valid to worship other gods in a Wiccan ritual context?

According to the Alexandrians and Gards I know personally, no. How much that is a function of personal opinion verses Orthopraxy is up in the air.

It may depend as well on if one is soft poly or hard poly.

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ShadowCatSoul

However, Wica is only Gardnerian and to some extent I believe Alexandrian. Anything else is not Wiccan.

And then there is Kingstone, Central Vally Wica and other lineaged traditions.

Wiccan traditions are Gardnerian, Alexandrian, Central Valley, Mohesian, Majestic, Kingstone, Silver Crescent, Daoine Coire, and some lines of Blue Star, Georgian and Protean. (there are probably a few more out there, but those are the major ones I think)

Basically it is any Trad that can trace lineage to Gerald Gardner (or as A&J defines it... "Wicca" refers specifically to the lineaged, initiatory mystery religion with roots in the New Forest region of Great Britain, manifested today through various "traditions" all linked with a common ancestry back to the New Forest area. "Wiccans" or "The Wica" are the properly lineaged, properly initiated members of those Traditions.)  

[TeaDidikai]

too2sweet

It may depend as well on if one is soft poly or hard poly.

If they change the deities, isn't that well, breaking the orthopraxy?

Gardner talked about other groups who worship other deities, excluding them from the Wica.

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Wiccan traditions are Gardnerian, Alexandrian, Central Valley, Mohesian, Majestic, Kingstone, Silver Crescent, Daoine Coire, and some lines of Blue Star, Georgian and Protean. (there are probably a few more out there, but those are the major ones I think)

Blue Star and Protean are often said to have violated the orthopraxy.

Georgian doesn't claim to have the bare minimal requirements.  

[ShadowCatSoul]

TeaDidikai

too2sweet

It may depend as well on if one is soft poly or hard poly.

If they change the deities, isn't that well, breaking the orthopraxy?

Gardner talked about other groups who worship other deities, excluding them from the Wica.

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Wiccan traditions are Gardnerian, Alexandrian, Central Valley, Mohesian, Majestic, Kingstone, Silver Crescent, Daoine Coire, and some lines of Blue Star, Georgian and Protean. (there are probably a few more out there, but those are the major ones I think)

Blue Star and Protean are often said to have violated the orthopraxy.

Georgian doesn't claim to have the bare minimal requirements.

So am I to understand that worshipping/following any deities other than the Lord and Lady of the Isles is frowned upon in Wica?  

[TeaDidikai]

ShadowCatSoul

So am I to understand that worshipping/following any deities other than the Lord and Lady of the Isles is frowned upon in Wica?

Outside of the cult, it's fine. But the cult is that of the Lord and Lady of the isles. So bringing someone else into their sacred place for their priests wouldn't be within the orthopraxy.

What they members of the cult do outside of the cult is likely a non-issue as long as it doesn't conflict with their oaths as members of the Wica.