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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:29 pm
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:48 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:52 am
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Razor9995 The Atheist Razor9995 I don't know if this has been said before, but that third language looks like the writing you'd see on "The One Ring" in LOTR. Or Legendary Frog mrgreen That's cuz I used the font from the ring. surprised Cheater! Do you know how hard it is to make a font? surprised
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:29 am
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The Atheist Razor9995 The Atheist Razor9995 I don't know if this has been said before, but that third language looks like the writing you'd see on "The One Ring" in LOTR. Or Legendary Frog mrgreen That's cuz I used the font from the ring. surprised Cheater! Do you know how hard it is to make a font? surprised
surprisingly easy, if you have a clean enough pen writing sample, photoshop, and a font creator. biggrin Took me about an hour to make Kintarasesa font. Admittedly, it's turned glitchy on the accents, which USED to work--it would put the apostrophe over the previous letter; now it won't sad
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:28 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:19 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:44 pm
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Forgedawn The Atheist Razor9995 The Atheist Razor9995 I don't know if this has been said before, but that third language looks like the writing you'd see on "The One Ring" in LOTR. Or Legendary Frog mrgreen That's cuz I used the font from the ring. surprised Cheater! Do you know how hard it is to make a font? surprised surprisingly easy, if you have a clean enough pen writing sample, photoshop, and a font creator. biggrin Took me about an hour to make Kintarasesa font. Admittedly, it's turned glitchy on the accents, which USED to work--it would put the apostrophe over the previous letter; now it won't sad I need a good font creator. I have the other things.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:03 pm
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:24 pm
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Xeigrich Vajra B. Hairava Too much work for me. I'd rather just write it out and scan it into the 'puter. Yeah, but if you need to use your writing often or have a LOT of samples you need to use... It's a lot more efficient to make the font and just type it out. You also get a much cleaner and professional looking result -- unless you have perfect handwriting. o_o That, and some of us may not have access to a scanner all the time, or ever, so having a font may be the only favorable option. I like having my Anzer Pex font on my laptop for when I want to do some conlang work but have no scanner or even a decent digital camera handy.
Well, do what you can with what you have. At least writing it out all the time is good practice for me. And I get more reason to use my fancy calligraphy pen!
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:56 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:09 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:08 pm
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Vajra B. Hairava You should! Its so much more satisfying than a pencil. And nothing will make you look more scholarly/nerdy. Sknordy, you could say. The problem is finding a good one. I had to go to England to get a hold of one. Nowadays, they just have those felt markers, or ink cartridge things. Gotta go with the old school. And font making, how hard its it for you to do? I don't have any of the stuff needed to do it, but I would pay you somehow to make one for me.
England? I don't know how big of a trip that was for you, but I have a hard time just leaving Texas. I'd be happy with a cheap nib pen or even just a plain fountain pen.
For me, font making isn't that hard, but then again I'm already familiar with my own scripts and I'm not that picky about font quality -- as long as I have a working font that delivers decent looking printed glyphs, I'm happy.
If you just want a basic working font, no frills or serifs or anything fancy, I can probably get you one in a matter of hours with no need for reimbursement/payment. However, if you want something fancier, such as a Hindi or Arabic looking calligraphic-style font (which seems likely)... Well, that may be beyond my current abilities, but I'd love to try. xd If you liked the font and wanted to "donate" some Gaia gold for my quest in return, that'd be acceptable, hehehe~
Hm. I think I may wander over to Target and get one of those cheap-o $5 fountain pens with the replaceable ink cartridges. If I like it and get used to it, I may find a nib pen, possibly a nice one off eBay or something.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:23 pm
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:10 pm
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eek
Looks like I'm in business. cool But before anything is decided for sure, I need to point out the following limitations to the way I make fonts...
I can only map the conscript glyphs to the following keys, assuming you're using an English operating system with a working Shift key. This allows use of 46 * 2 = 92 individual symbols. If you want the digits 1 through 0 included in the font, that leaves 82 slots free. If you need punctuation or accent marks, that also takes away from the total possible count. If you have uppercase and lowercase, this also cuts the number of slots in half (for actual letter symbols).
Of course, I can make a font with hundreds of individual glyphs, but there will only be 92 symbols available straight from the keyboard. To access any extra symbols, you will have to use "insert symbol" options in a word processor or some other text editor. The only other possible problem is something that is inevitable any time you use a foreign font or script from an English (or whatever) keyboard: the keys won't always match up. I always choose a layout that is the most logical or obvious. I either choose the key that is most closely related to the actual glyph (by phoneme, not shape), or I just have them go in order (as I would do for a syllabary font or such).
The keyboard direct keys:
`1234567890-= ~!@#$%^&*()_+ qwertyuiop[] QWERTYUIOP{}| asdfghjkl;' ASDFGHJKL:" zxcvbnm,./ ZXCVBNM<>?
This is usually plenty of space, since a lot of conscripts don't have a lot of punctuation needs like brackets, bars, ampersands, etc.
As for source materials, I'd prefer if it came in some kind of chart form, big and clear so I know whats what, but I can work with just about any stuff. I don't have Photoshop myself (I use a free alternative), so unless I can open photoshop templates in IrfanView or PaintDotNet, they might not be of much use to me.
As for the actual font-making process, I usually do it by hand with my mouse (or my girlfriend's tablet, but I don't really like it), then I tweak each individual glyph until it looks right at about 14pt size in samples. It takes a LOT of work to get a decent looking font at sizes smaller than 14 as you start having lines only a pixel or so thick... And I currently can't figure out how to do that.
Oh, and I only make TTF fonts, but I think I could make an OTF or whatever else there is with the font program I use.
Here is the alpha version of my Anzer Pex font: Download Link I consider that a "basic" font according to my script for Anzer Pex.
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