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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:20 am
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Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai OneWithDunamis Ricette OneWithDunamis But since I don't find joy in sacrificing goats and drinking blood, I'm pretty certain Satan's wrong. Really now? You know for certain Satan is all wrong about it all? Who are you? God? Now if its your opinion, then thats your opinion. To others Satan has it right. Who says what you or I or anyone thinks is the definate right or wrong answer or way? So everything is subjective then? If that's what you think I'd have to disagree, simply because it's illogical. As well, if it is true happiness that's in question, and true happiness is not achieved through the things mentioned above, then it's simply not true. If Satan is talking about emotions here and that's not universally true for all who do those things, then my opinion does matter because in this case it reflects my emotions, which is a crucial factor in Satan's claim. If drinking blood is supposed to make me truly happy and it doesn't, then he's clearly not correct. According to Sociology, good and bad, right and wrong are subjective and vary from culture to culture, religion to religion. that may be true, but does the individual not also decide for HIM/HERSELF what THEY percieve as right or wrong? |
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:24 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:23 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:46 am
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OneWithDunamis divineseraph OneWithDunamis Kapplar rainstar123 God is real!And if you dont belive it when Jesus comes then you go to hell. So you believe in God because he threatens you into believing in him? Is this a religion or a cult? If it's true, does it matter what one calls it? If God exists and God says those who don't believe in Him go to hell, whether we believe it or not is irrelevant if it's true. I can choose not to believe in the laws of physics, but I can't choose to float in mid air indefinitely on my own. Yes, but Satan says that the TRUE way to eternal happiness is through him, and through sacrificing goats and drinking blood. By the same logic, you should believe Satan too, since it's irrelevant wether or not you believe, it could still be true. But since I don't find joy in sacrificing goats and drinking blood, I'm pretty certain Satan's wrong.
You also don't find joy in being the subjugated one, the downtrodden, the beggar, the poor, as Jesus asks us to be. The reward is in the afterlife, and if Satan claims to have a better infinite gain, then by Pascal's logic, you must go with Satan. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:04 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:36 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:30 pm
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Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness so the only controll an individual has over what they percieve as right or wrong is a conformity issue? Pretty much. Sociology is a very interesting subject. then i disagree with sociology. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:10 pm
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Kazydi Kapplar oh wait nevermind he doesn't exist Either way, people sure love to call on Him when they've hit rock bottom. Besides dude, a post like that is most definitely NOT what these forums are about. They are for believers to come and have fellowship, and for non-believers to ask any questions that they may have. So far, all you have done is tried to start up a confrontation because you are bored and lonely and feel like fighting someone. Are you lonely?? I'll be your friend. Oh darn, I forgot, Christians can't have a sense of humor!! *Cuts of arm* Dear Lord, please forgive me!!! xd
Actually guild description welcomes anyone, Christian or not, to have fellowship or to ask questions and learn about this religion. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:51 am
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:39 am
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Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness so the only controll an individual has over what they percieve as right or wrong is a conformity issue? Pretty much. Sociology is a very interesting subject. then i disagree with sociology. Sociology is the study of the group and society. So you disagree with society? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:53 am
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KyosKitten divineseraph Aww, man, bummer about your god. Good news though, our God exists. Feel free to stop on by and check him out, he goes by YHWH. HIGH FIVE!!! AMEN!! Amen brother, amen :]
Seconded. ninja |
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:04 pm
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divineseraph OneWithDunamis divineseraph OneWithDunamis Kapplar rainstar123 God is real!And if you dont belive it when Jesus comes then you go to hell. So you believe in God because he threatens you into believing in him? Is this a religion or a cult? If it's true, does it matter what one calls it? If God exists and God says those who don't believe in Him go to hell, whether we believe it or not is irrelevant if it's true. I can choose not to believe in the laws of physics, but I can't choose to float in mid air indefinitely on my own. Yes, but Satan says that the TRUE way to eternal happiness is through him, and through sacrificing goats and drinking blood. By the same logic, you should believe Satan too, since it's irrelevant wether or not you believe, it could still be true. But since I don't find joy in sacrificing goats and drinking blood, I'm pretty certain Satan's wrong. You also don't find joy in being the subjugated one, the downtrodden, the beggar, the poor, as Jesus asks us to be. The reward is in the afterlife, and if Satan claims to have a better infinite gain, then by Pascal's logic, you must go with Satan.
But a person's happiness is crucial in determining whether Satan's claim has any merits. If there is no joy, Satan's claim is false. Jesus offers eternal life. It's not about joy. So whether I'm happy or not is not the point. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:05 pm
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Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness so the only controll an individual has over what they percieve as right or wrong is a conformity issue? Pretty much. Sociology is a very interesting subject. then i disagree with sociology. Sociology is the study of the group and society. So you disagree with society? i guess so. most people would agree that i'm a little off my rocker. blaugh |
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:45 pm
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OneWithDunamis Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness so the only controll an individual has over what they percieve as right or wrong is a conformity issue? Pretty much. Sociology is a very interesting subject. then i disagree with sociology. Sociology is the study of the group and society. So you disagree with society? i guess so. most people would agree that i'm a little off my rocker. blaugh It's ok. So was Jesus in the eyes of the people in His time. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:03 pm
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Gerbil_of_the_Vashness OneWithDunamis Gerbil_of_the_Vashness Dark Angel Rai Gerbil_of_the_Vashness then i disagree with sociology. Sociology is the study of the group and society. So you disagree with society? i guess so. most people would agree that i'm a little off my rocker. blaugh It's ok. So was Jesus in the eyes of the people in His time. i wouldn't compare myself with Jesus, but it's nice to know my craziness is accepted. |
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