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Sure...The staggering majority might not know who he is...however, since GoT pulls in twice the ratings, you're more likely to find people who know Tyrion Lanister than Roman Reigns. Common knowledge is a sign of interest...and no one outside of wrestling fans are talking about Roman Reigns...that's the point. At least with GoT, sure, the average person might not know the characters, but they've more than likely heard of the show and have a vague idea of what it's about.

Yeah, cause it's not like Peter Dinklage hasn't done the talk show circuit for his work on the show or anything....OH WAIT...Yes he ******** has. You really want to make this comparison...call me when Roman Reigns does ANYTHING outside of the WWE that involves the media.



Umm...Yeah...it actually is. If people aren't talking about it and don't care to follow it...it IS a sign of low interest...especially considering that people will know the WWE name right off the bat...that is, if they aren't still calling it the WWF (which still happens).



No. I'm suggesting that the average person doesn't know the roster or the storylines that are currently ongoing in the WWE.




Which is why I didn't say that.



Or, more likely, the longevity of the company that USED to be a lot more popular. I'm not saying people don't know the WWE...if you tell someone you watch wrestling, they will immediately think of the WWE. However, that doesn't mean that the show has generated anywhere near the amount of interest that they used to have...especially when all signs are pointing towards the opposite.

No one said he had to do it overnight. And Hogan is another bad comparison for you to pull out, because while he did other things, it was BECAUSE of his popularity in wrestling that he was able to do it. People knew who the ******** he was, which is why he got starring roles in movies.



I don't care...but you're claiming that "only the IWC has lost interest" and that's simply not the case.



Dude...come on...when did I ever say anything about "this is bad"....but if you're claiming that there's all this interest in the WWE product, when there isn't, then you're wrong.

Also...if you aren't watching the product....why would you be talking about it...seriously...



Which is my point, exactly. There isn't nearly as much interest as you're claiming there is. If there was, there'd be more people watching the show and subscribed to the network.



No...I'm really not.



You might be able to throw Jericho on that list, but at best, he'd still be a mid-level celebrity...not nearly at the star power of the others you mentioned. And I don't know if you could really add Taker to the list if you couldn't add Jericho to the list. Oh, but Flair would definitely be on there. I mean, sure, he wasn't doing Hollywood movies, but he was a huge celebrity back in the 70s...though if we're just sticking to "guys who were able to cross over into the entertainment industry," then maybe don't add him.



Actually it was. Those guys were well known, because there was interest in the product, so they were able to do more things outside of wrestling to draw even more interest to the product.



Where did I say that "every star in the current roster has to be known"...I haven't. I picked Roman Reigns cause he's going to be main eventing the biggest show of the year and no one outside of a wrestling audience knows who the ******** he is.



Which, again, no one said it had to happen overnight. But in the last 8 years, the only person who has been able to gain any sort of attention on the national level for the WWE was Chris Benoit...



....You do realize that "nobody outside of wrestling fans" was a pretty small group of people at that time, right...Wrestling was pretty popular in the 70s and 80s. It's why territories were able to thrive. People only had a small selection of shows they could watch at the time, and wrestling was one of them...so people watched it. So yeah, people knew who the ******** Hogan was...WHICH IS WHY HE WAS CAST.



Princess Bride came out two years after the first WM...people knew who he was before hand.



Yeah, I'd agree with how that happened. Austin was a product of the Streisand Effect: So much of a stink was raised about him that people only got interested in seeing what all the fuss was about, and he turned the WWE around. However, you can't deny the fact that he was a name known outside of the wrestling industry. And because he was known, it generated interest in the product, which got everyone on the roster exposure. There is no one in the current generation who does that, and that is an indication of how low the interest in the WWE is right now.



Dude...come on. We're having a discussion of differing opinions. Claiming I'm bitching is like admitting that you're just bitching about s**t too...which I'd be fine with, but don't act like you're any better in this situation...

Partially correct. He got LEADING movie roles, because people outside of the fanbase knew who he was. But not from his wrestling. From his minor role in Rocky 3. He got THAT role, because of how popular he was with the wrestling crowd, since he was playing a wrestler.



Actually...it is. With the actual fanbase, it's still as popular as ever. Or at least, not far from it.



Fine. Prove it, with something other than a random hypothetical that wouldn't pan out even in the most glorious depths of the AE or GE.



Who says there isn't?



Jericho....maybe. He does Fozzy, but who the hell has ever heard of them, that are not first wrestling fans?



Not really. They got those offers because of having the right people interested in the product. Movie producers that were looking for the right combination of huge muscle and the right personality. And they needed look no further than pro-wrestling. And they knew it.

That, and they wanted to secure box office figures by pandering to those wrestling fans. Something they still do today.



And the same would've been true for anyone who was getting their first big push.



Yeah, because Cena hasn't gone on talk shows, or anything.



Wrong on all accounts. Wrestling only SEEMED bigger, because shows were smaller. Selling out a bingo-hall was a lot easier than selling out Madison Square.



Are you sure? Can you actually prove any of this?



You come off as whining because the WWE supposedly isn't as popular as it used to be, when there is no quantifiable evidence to suggest this. Just your "gut feeling" and potentially misguided understanding of how things were, before you were even born to experience it.

Yes, the WWE and all the other living legends tend to talk about the "good old days" as if wrestling was as popular as the NFL now. But that's probably because it's their bread and butter, and making those days sound glorious, works out best for them. In reality, I doubt it was any more popular than it is, today. In fact, I imagine it's MORE popular today, because there's more exposure. Larry the Ax didn't have action figures for sale at Walmart, for example. Even low-level guys today have that much....

Technically, Mike Mizanin, too. xd

I'll give you Batista....but how DARE you say that Miz is a celebrity!?!?! scream scream scream

Cena is a pretty big given. Make-a-Wish, Fruity Pebbles, multiple guest appearances.