the enlightenment
you're making wholly claims about what dr.jenner and rick discussed.
you do not have any evidence to back up any of these claims. this is just speculation. no facts. we do not know what was said. you don't know either. no one does, except the producers, writers, actors and directors.
it will be revealed in the season finale.
i don't know why people are making claims without concrete evidence to back them up.
You clearly didn't read what was just said. They tried it, and it worked. So that's evidence. Personal evidence, but evidence nonetheless. You can choose not to believe it, but if someone is saying they personally saw it, who are you to call them a liar?