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US and China strengthen UN sanctions on North Korea

The United States and China reached a deal that "significantly expands" UN sanctions on North Korea for its third nuclear test, eliciting a renewed threat by Pyongyang to scrap an armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

China's UN ambassador, Li Baodong, said the 15-nation council was aiming for a Thursday vote on a draft sanctions resolution, which was agreed to by Washington and Beijing after three weeks of negotiations.

Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, said after a closed-door meeting of the Security Council that the new draft resolution "builds up, strengthens and significantly expands the scope of the strong UN sanctions already in place."

"The sanctions contained in this resolution will significantly impede the ability of North Korea to develop further its illicit nuclear and ballistic missile programs," she said.

The Chinese envoy made clear that Beijing was displeased by North Korea's Feb. 12 nuclear test - its third since 2006 - though he cautioned against responding too harshly.

"We support action taken by the council, but we think that action should be proportionate, should be balanced and focused on bringing down the tension and focusing on the diplomatic track," Li said.

"A strong signal must be sent out that a nuclear test is against the will of the international community," he added.

North Korea's previous nuclear tests, in 2006 and 2009, prompted the Security Council to impose sanctions that included a ban on the import of nuclear and missile technology, an arms embargo and a ban on luxury goods imports.

Rice gave some of specifics of the draft resolution.

"For the first time ever, this resolution targets the illicit activities of North Korean diplomatic personnel, North Korean banking relationships, (and) illicit transfers of bulk cash," Rice said after a closed-door meeting of the 15-nation council.

"North Korea will be subject to some of the toughest sanctions imposed by the United Nations," she told reporters. "The breadth and scope of these sanctions is exceptional and demonstrates the strength of the international community's commitment to denuclearization" of the Korean peninsula."

Developments in New York led to a new volley of bellicose rhetoric from Pyongyang. In addition to scrapping the armistice, North Korea said it would sever a military "hotline" with the United States if South Korea and Washington pressed on with two-month-long war games.

"We will completely nullify the Korean armistice," the North's KCNA news agency said, quoting the Korean People's Army Supreme Command spokesman.

The spokesman called the military exercise "a systematic act of destruction aimed at the Korean armistice."

The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.
China is supposedly North Korea's closest ally. When your closest ally thinks you're doing bad things and takes action against you you know you're not doing the right thing.

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The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.


silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over

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The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.


silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over



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The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.


silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over



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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/5391720/North-Korea-abandons-truce-and-threatens-to-attack-the-South.html?highlight=%27%27

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The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.


silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over



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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/5391720/North-Korea-abandons-truce-and-threatens-to-attack-the-South.html?highlight=''


Here's the article for those who are interested. Despite the headline, there's no quotation from anyone in the North Korean government express abandoning the truce. It accuses South Korea of making a declaration of war against it. And if you read the most recent rhetoric where North Korea speaks of a "second Korean War" (North Korea's propaganda video by that title is on the Telegraph link at the top of this page), it's apparent that the truce is, in fact, still in place.

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North Korea abandons truce and threatens to attack the South
North Korea has declared it is abandoning the truce that ended the Korean war and warned that it could launch a military attack against the South.


Pyongyang said that South Korea's decision to start intercepting ships that are suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction was tantamount to "a declaration of war against us".

The statement follows a number of missile tests and an underground nuclear test by the North in the last two days.

The statement, through North Korea's state newswire, warned Seoul that North Korea "will no longer be bound by the armistice accord" and that the "Korean peninsula will go back to a state of war".

Pyongyang had previously warned Seoul that joining the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) would have fearful consequences.

No formal peace treaty has ever been signed between the two countries, but an armistice in 1953 and a Mutual Defence treaty between the US and South Korea effectively ended the Korean war.

In October 2007, Kim Jong-il and Roh Moo-hyun, the former president of South Korea who committed suicide last weekend, signed a pact declaring "permanent peace" between the two sides.
The North Korean statement added that its troops will take "corresponding military action", without giving any details. "Those who have provoked us will face unimaginable merciless punishment". A possible first target may be five South Korean islands near the border between the two countries in the Yellow Sea, after Pyongyang refused to "guarantee the legal status" of the territories.

The PSI is largely symbolic, and does not permit South Korean forces to search ships or ground planes outside of its sovereign territory. President Lee Myung-bak had dithered over whether to join the project for over a month, but took the plunge on Tuesday after North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb in an undergound bunker on its north eastern coast.

Residents in North Korea's capital were reported by the state media to have held a mass rally on Wednesday at the Pyongyang Indoor Stadium to celebrate the country's second nuclear test, perhaps confirming that the purpose of the bomb test was to shore up domestic support for Kim Jong-il's leadership.

Choe Thae-Bok, a senior official of North Korea's Communist party, said military threats and economic sanctions had prompted the North to conduct the second test. "It was a grand undertaking to protect the supreme interests of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea," he said, accusing the US of planning a "preemptive nuclear attack and sanctions and pressure" on North Korea.

Meanwhile, North Korea has launched a further missile, bringing the total number of short-range missiles fired in the past three days to six.

A South Korean official told Yonhap, the news agency, that a night-time missile launch had been carried out on Tuesday and that there are signs of imminent further launches along the rogue state's West coast. The North has warned that it may continue to launch missiles until Saturday.

"The North appears to have launched a ground-to-ship missile into the East Sea shortly after 9pm Tuesday," said the unnamed Defence official. Pyongyang had already launched two missiles from its east coast earlier on Tuesday, after firing three on Monday.

It is unclear whether the missiles are test-launches, or whether North Korea is seeking to dissuade South Korean and US spy planes from hovering over its military installations in order to verify its claim of a nuclear test.

According to the Chosun Ilbo newspaper, spy planes have detected steam coming from the nuclear reprocessing facility at North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant, suggesting that North Korea has once again begun to extract plutonium for its weapons programme.

The North has already warned that it intended to being turning its spent nuclear fuel rods into plutonium in protest at the international criticism of its rocket test on April 5. Yongbyon is thought to be capable of processing 200 to 250 tons of spent fuel each year and harvesting around 100kg of plutonium. In the past, the US has warned that reprocessing fuel is an action that could lead to a military strike on the country.

Pyongyang triggered global condemnation on Monday after detonating a nuclear bomb in a bunker six-miles underground, in the country's north east. Experts are now scaling down their estimates of the size of the nuclear device, and a precise analysis will take days or weeks. However a senior White House official said yesterday the explosion was "several kilotons", a major advance on the North's test in 2006.

The United Nations Security Council met on Tuesday to begin work on a response to North Korea's actions, and Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN said a new resolution "will indeed take some time". Mrs Rice said the US wanted "a strong resolution with teeth. Those teeth could take various different forms. They are economic levers, they are other levers that we might pursue."

The Security Council is expected to produce its plan in the next fortnight, although it is likely to face opposition from China on any major sanctions, especially since only China has any major economic ties with the pariah state.

The Chinese government said that it was "resolutely opposed" to the nuclear test, but weakened the tone of its statement from the strong words it issued in response to North Korea's first nuclear test in October 2006. It also called for a "calm response" to the crisis and expressed hope that the issue would be resolved through dialogue. China is North Korea's biggest source of food and fuel, but receives access to North Korean minerals in return.

With tensions on the Korean peninsula high, South Korea said it would join a US-led initiative to intercept ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction, a move that Pyongyang has previously warned it would consider "an act of war".

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Quote:

The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.


silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over



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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/5391720/North-Korea-abandons-truce-and-threatens-to-attack-the-South.html?highlight=''


Here's the article for those who are interested. Despite the headline, there's no quotation from anyone in the North Korean government express abandoning the truce. It accuses South Korea of making a declaration of war against it. And if you read the most recent rhetoric where North Korea speaks of a "second Korean War" (North Korea's propaganda video by that title is on the Telegraph link at the top of this page), it's apparent that the truce is, in fact, still in place.

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North Korea abandons truce and threatens to attack the South
North Korea has declared it is abandoning the truce that ended the Korean war and warned that it could launch a military attack against the South.


Pyongyang said that South Korea's decision to start intercepting ships that are suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction was tantamount to "a declaration of war against us".

The statement follows a number of missile tests and an underground nuclear test by the North in the last two days.

The statement, through North Korea's state newswire, warned Seoul that North Korea "will no longer be bound by the armistice accord" and that the "Korean peninsula will go back to a state of war".

Pyongyang had previously warned Seoul that joining the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) would have fearful consequences.

No formal peace treaty has ever been signed between the two countries, but an armistice in 1953 and a Mutual Defence treaty between the US and South Korea effectively ended the Korean war.

In October 2007, Kim Jong-il and Roh Moo-hyun, the former president of South Korea who committed suicide last weekend, signed a pact declaring "permanent peace" between the two sides.
The North Korean statement added that its troops will take "corresponding military action", without giving any details. "Those who have provoked us will face unimaginable merciless punishment". A possible first target may be five South Korean islands near the border between the two countries in the Yellow Sea, after Pyongyang refused to "guarantee the legal status" of the territories.

The PSI is largely symbolic, and does not permit South Korean forces to search ships or ground planes outside of its sovereign territory. President Lee Myung-bak had dithered over whether to join the project for over a month, but took the plunge on Tuesday after North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb in an undergound bunker on its north eastern coast.

Residents in North Korea's capital were reported by the state media to have held a mass rally on Wednesday at the Pyongyang Indoor Stadium to celebrate the country's second nuclear test, perhaps confirming that the purpose of the bomb test was to shore up domestic support for Kim Jong-il's leadership.

Choe Thae-Bok, a senior official of North Korea's Communist party, said military threats and economic sanctions had prompted the North to conduct the second test. "It was a grand undertaking to protect the supreme interests of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea," he said, accusing the US of planning a "preemptive nuclear attack and sanctions and pressure" on North Korea.

Meanwhile, North Korea has launched a further missile, bringing the total number of short-range missiles fired in the past three days to six.

A South Korean official told Yonhap, the news agency, that a night-time missile launch had been carried out on Tuesday and that there are signs of imminent further launches along the rogue state's West coast. The North has warned that it may continue to launch missiles until Saturday.

"The North appears to have launched a ground-to-ship missile into the East Sea shortly after 9pm Tuesday," said the unnamed Defence official. Pyongyang had already launched two missiles from its east coast earlier on Tuesday, after firing three on Monday.

It is unclear whether the missiles are test-launches, or whether North Korea is seeking to dissuade South Korean and US spy planes from hovering over its military installations in order to verify its claim of a nuclear test.

According to the Chosun Ilbo newspaper, spy planes have detected steam coming from the nuclear reprocessing facility at North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant, suggesting that North Korea has once again begun to extract plutonium for its weapons programme.

The North has already warned that it intended to being turning its spent nuclear fuel rods into plutonium in protest at the international criticism of its rocket test on April 5. Yongbyon is thought to be capable of processing 200 to 250 tons of spent fuel each year and harvesting around 100kg of plutonium. In the past, the US has warned that reprocessing fuel is an action that could lead to a military strike on the country.

Pyongyang triggered global condemnation on Monday after detonating a nuclear bomb in a bunker six-miles underground, in the country's north east. Experts are now scaling down their estimates of the size of the nuclear device, and a precise analysis will take days or weeks. However a senior White House official said yesterday the explosion was "several kilotons", a major advance on the North's test in 2006.

The United Nations Security Council met on Tuesday to begin work on a response to North Korea's actions, and Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN said a new resolution "will indeed take some time". Mrs Rice said the US wanted "a strong resolution with teeth. Those teeth could take various different forms. They are economic levers, they are other levers that we might pursue."

The Security Council is expected to produce its plan in the next fortnight, although it is likely to face opposition from China on any major sanctions, especially since only China has any major economic ties with the pariah state.

The Chinese government said that it was "resolutely opposed" to the nuclear test, but weakened the tone of its statement from the strong words it issued in response to North Korea's first nuclear test in October 2006. It also called for a "calm response" to the crisis and expressed hope that the issue would be resolved through dialogue. China is North Korea's biggest source of food and fuel, but receives access to North Korean minerals in return.

With tensions on the Korean peninsula high, South Korea said it would join a US-led initiative to intercept ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction, a move that Pyongyang has previously warned it would consider "an act of war".
thats just a random article i found, it seems it was not that informative. anyway there was no war after that and shortly after they were seeking another peace agreement


North Korea announced Wednesday that it is no longer bound by the 1953 armistice that halted the Korean War

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/north-korea-disavows-1953-armistice

North Korea said on Monday it wants to reach a peace treaty quickly to replace the ceasefire
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/11/us-korea-north-idUSTRE60A0QV20100111
http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/north-korea-calls-unconditional-peace-treaty-us/

as you see when certain obligations are meet they consider it not bound by the agreement. so saying the old peacetreaty is still in effect is questionable, it was never dirrectly broken but it a way so you could say the truce ended for a moment back in 2009
anyway just wanted to point that out

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silly copy paste western media

the truce ended back in 2009.

but for some reason they dont want to talk about that. instead they just repeat themselves over and over



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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/5391720/North-Korea-abandons-truce-and-threatens-to-attack-the-South.html?highlight=''


Here's the article for those who are interested. Despite the headline, there's no quotation from anyone in the North Korean government express abandoning the truce. It accuses South Korea of making a declaration of war against it. And if you read the most recent rhetoric where North Korea speaks of a "second Korean War" (North Korea's propaganda video by that title is on the Telegraph link at the top of this page), it's apparent that the truce is, in fact, still in place.

Quote:
North Korea abandons truce and threatens to attack the South
North Korea has declared it is abandoning the truce that ended the Korean war and warned that it could launch a military attack against the South.


Pyongyang said that South Korea's decision to start intercepting ships that are suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction was tantamount to "a declaration of war against us".

The statement follows a number of missile tests and an underground nuclear test by the North in the last two days.

The statement, through North Korea's state newswire, warned Seoul that North Korea "will no longer be bound by the armistice accord" and that the "Korean peninsula will go back to a state of war".

Pyongyang had previously warned Seoul that joining the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) would have fearful consequences.

No formal peace treaty has ever been signed between the two countries, but an armistice in 1953 and a Mutual Defence treaty between the US and South Korea effectively ended the Korean war.

In October 2007, Kim Jong-il and Roh Moo-hyun, the former president of South Korea who committed suicide last weekend, signed a pact declaring "permanent peace" between the two sides.
The North Korean statement added that its troops will take "corresponding military action", without giving any details. "Those who have provoked us will face unimaginable merciless punishment". A possible first target may be five South Korean islands near the border between the two countries in the Yellow Sea, after Pyongyang refused to "guarantee the legal status" of the territories.

The PSI is largely symbolic, and does not permit South Korean forces to search ships or ground planes outside of its sovereign territory. President Lee Myung-bak had dithered over whether to join the project for over a month, but took the plunge on Tuesday after North Korea detonated a nuclear bomb in an undergound bunker on its north eastern coast.

Residents in North Korea's capital were reported by the state media to have held a mass rally on Wednesday at the Pyongyang Indoor Stadium to celebrate the country's second nuclear test, perhaps confirming that the purpose of the bomb test was to shore up domestic support for Kim Jong-il's leadership.

Choe Thae-Bok, a senior official of North Korea's Communist party, said military threats and economic sanctions had prompted the North to conduct the second test. "It was a grand undertaking to protect the supreme interests of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea," he said, accusing the US of planning a "preemptive nuclear attack and sanctions and pressure" on North Korea.

Meanwhile, North Korea has launched a further missile, bringing the total number of short-range missiles fired in the past three days to six.

A South Korean official told Yonhap, the news agency, that a night-time missile launch had been carried out on Tuesday and that there are signs of imminent further launches along the rogue state's West coast. The North has warned that it may continue to launch missiles until Saturday.

"The North appears to have launched a ground-to-ship missile into the East Sea shortly after 9pm Tuesday," said the unnamed Defence official. Pyongyang had already launched two missiles from its east coast earlier on Tuesday, after firing three on Monday.

It is unclear whether the missiles are test-launches, or whether North Korea is seeking to dissuade South Korean and US spy planes from hovering over its military installations in order to verify its claim of a nuclear test.

According to the Chosun Ilbo newspaper, spy planes have detected steam coming from the nuclear reprocessing facility at North Korea's Yongbyon nuclear plant, suggesting that North Korea has once again begun to extract plutonium for its weapons programme.

The North has already warned that it intended to being turning its spent nuclear fuel rods into plutonium in protest at the international criticism of its rocket test on April 5. Yongbyon is thought to be capable of processing 200 to 250 tons of spent fuel each year and harvesting around 100kg of plutonium. In the past, the US has warned that reprocessing fuel is an action that could lead to a military strike on the country.

Pyongyang triggered global condemnation on Monday after detonating a nuclear bomb in a bunker six-miles underground, in the country's north east. Experts are now scaling down their estimates of the size of the nuclear device, and a precise analysis will take days or weeks. However a senior White House official said yesterday the explosion was "several kilotons", a major advance on the North's test in 2006.

The United Nations Security Council met on Tuesday to begin work on a response to North Korea's actions, and Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN said a new resolution "will indeed take some time". Mrs Rice said the US wanted "a strong resolution with teeth. Those teeth could take various different forms. They are economic levers, they are other levers that we might pursue."

The Security Council is expected to produce its plan in the next fortnight, although it is likely to face opposition from China on any major sanctions, especially since only China has any major economic ties with the pariah state.

The Chinese government said that it was "resolutely opposed" to the nuclear test, but weakened the tone of its statement from the strong words it issued in response to North Korea's first nuclear test in October 2006. It also called for a "calm response" to the crisis and expressed hope that the issue would be resolved through dialogue. China is North Korea's biggest source of food and fuel, but receives access to North Korean minerals in return.

With tensions on the Korean peninsula high, South Korea said it would join a US-led initiative to intercept ships suspected of carrying weapons of mass destruction, a move that Pyongyang has previously warned it would consider "an act of war".
thats just a random article i found, it seems it was not that informative. anyway there was no war after that and shortly after they were seeking another peace agreement


North Korea announced Wednesday that it is no longer bound by the 1953 armistice that halted the Korean War

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/north-korea-disavows-1953-armistice

North Korea said on Monday it wants to reach a peace treaty quickly to replace the ceasefire
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/11/us-korea-north-idUSTRE60A0QV20100111
http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/north-korea-calls-unconditional-peace-treaty-us/

as you see when certain obligations are meet they consider it not bound by the agreement. so saying the old peacetreaty is still in effect is questionable, it was never dirrectly broken but it a way so you could say the truce ended for a moment back in 2009
anyway just wanted to point that out


It's hardly the first (or last) time North Korea has said, "we're not bound! we're not bound!" But it will be interesting to see how far China will allow it go before taking direct action, not just acting through the UN.

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US and China strengthen UN sanctions on North Korea

The United States and China reached a deal that "significantly expands" UN sanctions on North Korea for its third nuclear test, eliciting a renewed threat by Pyongyang to scrap an armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

China's UN ambassador, Li Baodong, said the 15-nation council was aiming for a Thursday vote on a draft sanctions resolution, which was agreed to by Washington and Beijing after three weeks of negotiations.

Susan Rice, the US ambassador to the UN, said after a closed-door meeting of the Security Council that the new draft resolution "builds up, strengthens and significantly expands the scope of the strong UN sanctions already in place."

"The sanctions contained in this resolution will significantly impede the ability of North Korea to develop further its illicit nuclear and ballistic missile programs," she said.

The Chinese envoy made clear that Beijing was displeased by North Korea's Feb. 12 nuclear test - its third since 2006 - though he cautioned against responding too harshly.

"We support action taken by the council, but we think that action should be proportionate, should be balanced and focused on bringing down the tension and focusing on the diplomatic track," Li said.

"A strong signal must be sent out that a nuclear test is against the will of the international community," he added.

North Korea's previous nuclear tests, in 2006 and 2009, prompted the Security Council to impose sanctions that included a ban on the import of nuclear and missile technology, an arms embargo and a ban on luxury goods imports.

Rice gave some of specifics of the draft resolution.

"For the first time ever, this resolution targets the illicit activities of North Korean diplomatic personnel, North Korean banking relationships, (and) illicit transfers of bulk cash," Rice said after a closed-door meeting of the 15-nation council.

"North Korea will be subject to some of the toughest sanctions imposed by the United Nations," she told reporters. "The breadth and scope of these sanctions is exceptional and demonstrates the strength of the international community's commitment to denuclearization" of the Korean peninsula."

Developments in New York led to a new volley of bellicose rhetoric from Pyongyang. In addition to scrapping the armistice, North Korea said it would sever a military "hotline" with the United States if South Korea and Washington pressed on with two-month-long war games.

"We will completely nullify the Korean armistice," the North's KCNA news agency said, quoting the Korean People's Army Supreme Command spokesman.

The spokesman called the military exercise "a systematic act of destruction aimed at the Korean armistice."

The two Koreas remain technically at war since the 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce rather than a peace treaty.
I'm glad you posted this up because, this issue has been going on the news for a while since the year started. But the odds of North Korea winning the US, is quite little because The US has about 7000-9000 nuclear bombs, and N.K.has 1. I was always told that the start of World War 3 involves nuclear weapons and bombs. I just hope it doesn't get to that way because of this idiotic problem. I don't want innocent lives to die, but if they keep acting up, they're going to be held down big time, especially how China is joining US to stop them.

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