Artificial Intelligence

Artificial Intelligence...

Will never come near human efficiency.	11.3%	[ 6 ]
Will become complex, but less than a human.	24.5%	[ 13 ]
Will become equal to humans.	5.7%	[ 3 ]
Will surpass humans.	39.6%	[ 21 ]
Other. Explain in post.	18.9%	[ 10 ]
Total Votes:			[ 53 ]

[Pholwanna]

Yeah. So I was watching a marathon of movies which included Bicentennial Man and Artificial Intelligence, and I got to wondering what you guys think about artificial intelligence.

I talked to many people about this and my view is that robots can be called "humans" at some point in the future, and that humans could be called robots. In fact, I think that every living thing could be called a robot and vice versa. Also, currently, I believe that an average computer is already smarter than a normal person.

Other people believe that A.I. will never match the human brain, and I believe this is wrong. People who support this idea generally believe that the human brain, or any other brain, is too difficult to analyze and reproduce. Like I said before, I believe that this idea is wrong and that the brain is simply A.I. created by "God" to change and adapt to our surroundings.

So, what do you guys think about A.I.?

[Pensive_Vagabond]

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

[Westenblum]

Pholwanna

Yeah. So I was watching a marathon of movies which included Bicentennial Man and Artificial Intelligence, and I got to wondering what you guys think about artificial intelligence.

I talked to many people about this and my view is that robots can be called "humans" at some point in the future, and that humans could be called robots. In fact, I think that every living thing could be called a robot and vice versa. Also, currently, I believe that an average computer is already smarter than a normal person.

Other people believe that A.I. will never match the human brain, and I believe this is wrong. People who support this idea generally believe that the human brain, or any other brain, is too difficult to analyze and reproduce. Like I said before, I believe that this idea is wrong and that the brain is simply A.I. created by "God" to change and adapt to our surroundings.

So, what do you guys think about A.I.?

Explain why you think the A.I. brain can adequately reproduce the human brain and its actions, enough for it to be considered "human" by default. Artificial intelligence is a tricky business - we don't have any A.I. at the moment that really resembles the human brain. And if we developed one that could pass for a human brain, how could we tell?

[Westenblum]

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

[Mjolnir2000]

It's only a matter of time before we create an AI running on powerful enough hardware that it could be said to surpass human intelligence. I mean unless we destroy ourselves in some kind of nuclear war before we make it that far, there's absolutely no reason we shouldn't be able to eventually.

That said, it's a very, very long way away still. Hardware isn't much of an issue - if we need more processing power we can just build bigger (an inelegant solution, to be sure, but one that would work) - but coming up with the software is an entirely different story. We have only the vaguest idea of the software we run on our brains, and converting that to x86 isn't going to happen any time soon.

[Pholwanna]

Westenblum

Pholwanna

Yeah. So I was watching a marathon of movies which included Bicentennial Man and Artificial Intelligence, and I got to wondering what you guys think about artificial intelligence.

I talked to many people about this and my view is that robots can be called "humans" at some point in the future, and that humans could be called robots. In fact, I think that every living thing could be called a robot and vice versa. Also, currently, I believe that an average computer is already smarter than a normal person.

Other people believe that A.I. will never match the human brain, and I believe this is wrong. People who support this idea generally believe that the human brain, or any other brain, is too difficult to analyze and reproduce. Like I said before, I believe that this idea is wrong and that the brain is simply A.I. created by "God" to change and adapt to our surroundings.

So, what do you guys think about A.I.?

Explain why you think the A.I. brain can adequately reproduce the human brain and its actions, enough for it to be considered "human" by default. Artificial intelligence is a tricky business - we don't have any A.I. at the moment that really resembles the human brain. And if we developed one that could pass for a human brain, how could we tell?

Well, currently, we believe the brain adapts to external influences, such as touch, sight, and smell and we remember those things.

A modern robot such as ASIMO can do these things already. I mean, thinking on a human is basically processing for a computer or A.I. so technically, computers can already emulate the human mind based on a person, such as how it would respond to questions or stimulus. We haven't the technology or skills to make a personality from scratch, so that's the final hurdle I guess.

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

[Westenblum]

Pholwanna

Westenblum

Pholwanna

Yeah. So I was watching a marathon of movies which included Bicentennial Man and Artificial Intelligence, and I got to wondering what you guys think about artificial intelligence.

I talked to many people about this and my view is that robots can be called "humans" at some point in the future, and that humans could be called robots. In fact, I think that every living thing could be called a robot and vice versa. Also, currently, I believe that an average computer is already smarter than a normal person.

Other people believe that A.I. will never match the human brain, and I believe this is wrong. People who support this idea generally believe that the human brain, or any other brain, is too difficult to analyze and reproduce. Like I said before, I believe that this idea is wrong and that the brain is simply A.I. created by "God" to change and adapt to our surroundings.

So, what do you guys think about A.I.?

Explain why you think the A.I. brain can adequately reproduce the human brain and its actions, enough for it to be considered "human" by default. Artificial intelligence is a tricky business - we don't have any A.I. at the moment that really resembles the human brain. And if we developed one that could pass for a human brain, how could we tell?

Well, currently, we believe the brain adapts to external influences, such as touch, sight, and smell and we remember those things.

A modern robot such as ASIMO can do these things already. I mean, thinking on a human is basically processing for a computer or A.I. so technically, computers can already emulate the human mind based on a person, such as how it would respond to questions or stimulus. We haven't the technology or skills to make a personality from scratch, so that's the final hurdle I guess.

On a nominal level, perhaps, but ASIMO still has his own programming that he can't alter by himself. Humans can alter their behavior without having to resort to being "reprogrammed" to do so. There's also the whole issue of reproduction, but that's a general life vs. non-life issue.

[Westenblum]

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

[Pensive_Vagabond]

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

[Pholwanna]

Pensive_Vagabond

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

If this were the case, the body wouldn't be needed and the mind could just live without the brain. But it can't, so this explanation fails in my eyes.

Also, as for the stimuli, people who are in coma's and are brain dead and the like respond to pain.

[Westenblum]

Pensive_Vagabond

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

Hmmm, stimuli exist inside the mind and not without . . . You do realize that a brain is not necessary to respond to external stimuli, correct?

[Pholwanna]

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

Hmmm, stimuli exist inside the mind and not without . . . You do realize that a brain is not necessary to respond to external stimuli, correct?

The brain is required to respond because without it, signals to move or respond to the stimuli would be non existent. Also, if what I believe is true, the brain houses the mind.

[Pensive_Vagabond]

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Nothing exists externally of the mind.

What about the body containing your brain? Or the external stimuli you respond to everyday?

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

Hmmm, stimuli exist inside the mind and not without . . . You do realize that a brain is not necessary to respond to external stimuli, correct?

"Stimuli" nor the brain exists outside the mind.

[Westenblum]

Pholwanna

Westenblum

Pensive_Vagabond

Westenblum

Lucky~9~Lives

Mental constructs? As in, what about the stimuli we respond to in dreams?

And what about the stimuli we respond to in everyday life? If nothing outside the mind can be considered valid, then do we even know what we're looking at?

The brain and the mind are like comparing apples and oranges. Do NOT confuse them. The brain is precisely a construct created by the mind to explain the mind. Stimuli is existent inside the mind, not without.

Hmmm, stimuli exist inside the mind and not without . . . You do realize that a brain is not necessary to respond to external stimuli, correct?

The brain is required to respond because without it, signals to move or respond to the stimuli would be non existent. Also, if what I believe is true, the brain houses the mind.

Actually, you'd be wrong. Bacteria, paramecia and cnidarians can respond to stimuli, and they have no brains. Bacteria, in particular, can show chemotaxis.