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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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 Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:08 pm
Alot of people tell me that oh capital punishment is not a detterent to crime. maybe be not but its not supposed to be, notice its called capital punishment
my views on capital punishment for convicted murderers, rapists, molesters ect. was said best by one of my fav. bands
"I say we line 'em all up then we gun 'em all down, then we all celebrate when they all hit the ground"
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:32 pm
My view is taht capital punishment is wrong. It doesn't stop crime, actually wastes more money than simply keeping the criminals in jail (lawyer's fees and related costs), and lets the criminals off the hook too fast. If you just stuck them in a room with a picture of thier victim staring back at them, or neutered the molesters/rapists...
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:16 am
killing them is as close to justice that the families of the victim will get. It is not true justice because there is no such thing
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:21 pm
No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing.
And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:38 pm
thenerdqueen My view is taht capital punishment is wrong. It doesn't stop crime, actually wastes more money than simply keeping the criminals in jail (lawyer's fees and related costs), and lets the criminals off the hook too fast. If you just stuck them in a room with a picture of thier victim staring back at them, or neutered the molesters/rapists... The electricity form the electric chair is alot cheaper that paying for their meals, TV, and other various things. A 5x56 NATO bullet is only 9 cents. Most if not all religions condemn murder. If you are christian, I'm sure that an eternity in hell would be even worse. If they kill osmeone intentoinally, they usually don't regret it. They usually enjoy it. Even cheaper, free that is, would be to leave then handcuffed in a room with the family of those that they did wrong to. No problems, they'll beat him and teahc him that the life of crime doesn't profit, and the government saves money.
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:52 pm
thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:14 pm
Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person being on death row wouldent be so much more expensive if they lost the right to apeal after a couple time's
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:48 am
james628 Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person and it wouldent be so much more expensive if they lost the right to apeal after a couple time's Well, if they have a life sentence, think of it this way. Here is the math behind how much a prisoner costs. If the person is in a better part of the food chain in the prison, where he isn't bothered by others much but is still able to get "good-behavior" bonuses. Take the price for a meal. Say $10. Multiply that by three. That's thirty dollars a day. Okay, let's say he's old already old and only lives three more years. Times that 30 by 365, then multiply that by 3. The resulting amount, $32,850 , is the amount of tax dollars going into him. Now, figure out how many prisoners there are in that particular jail. Multiply that number by the amount above. It;s a godly amout of tax dollars keeping them alive. And that's only food. Also, to the "killing on causes more killing" comment, you could have just said "violence begets violence". But it still isn't always true. Maybe in a gang war, or a plain out war, but not your average criminal. And in a war only to the extent that one side is wiped out or gives up. The average criminal, if he was ever persuaded ot do so, could tell you that they fear death just as much as any other person. THey don;t want to die, so they pick easy targets or do petty crime to keep the death penaly and any bodily harm away from them. They have been persuaded to do so for two diferent DVD's, "FrontSight Story part 1: Your Legacy", promotional DVD for the Front Sight resorts and firarms training facility. They also teach martial arts among other things. The other DVD is the Oscar-worthy documentary by the JPFO, "The Gang", which is availabel at shop.jpfo.org .
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:20 pm
uryu ishida Well, if they have a life sentence, think of it this way. Here is the math behind how much a prisoner costs. If the person is in a better part of the food chain in the prison, where he isn't bothered by others much but is still able to get "good-behavior" bonuses. Take the price for a meal. Say $10. Multiply that by three. That's thirty dollars a day. Okay, let's say he's old already old and only lives three more years. Times that 30 by 365, then multiply that by 3. The resulting amount, $32,850 , is the amount of tax dollars going into him. Now, figure out how many prisoners there are in that particular jail. Multiply that number by the amount above. It;s a godly amout of tax dollars keeping them alive. And that's only food. I understand this. However, I have done research upon this topic. Lawyers and extra police (to deal with the protesters), executioner's fees and other sundry fees cost more. james628 being on death row wouldent be so much more expensive if they lost the right to apeal after a couple time's This would be a violation of the prisoner's rights. Besides, I believe you are only allowed to try each appeals once with each lawyer, or within a certain amount of years.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:22 pm
Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person Oops, sorry about forgeting this one. Being shut up in a tiny room isn't a punishment in itself?
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:29 pm
thenerdqueen uryu ishida Well, if they have a life sentence, think of it this way. Here is the math behind how much a prisoner costs. If the person is in a better part of the food chain in the prison, where he isn't bothered by others much but is still able to get "good-behavior" bonuses. Take the price for a meal. Say $10. Multiply that by three. That's thirty dollars a day. Okay, let's say he's old already old and only lives three more years. Times that 30 by 365, then multiply that by 3. The resulting amount, $32,850 , is the amount of tax dollars going into him. Now, figure out how many prisoners there are in that particular jail. Multiply that number by the amount above. It;s a godly amout of tax dollars keeping them alive. And that's only food. I understand this. However, I have done research upon this topic. Lawyers and extra police (to deal with the protesters), executioner's fees and other sundry fees cost more. james628 being on death row wouldent be so much more expensive if they lost the right to apeal after a couple time's This would be a violation of the prisoner's rights. Besides, I believe you are only allowed to try each appeals once with each lawyer, or within a certain amount of years. It would count if federal lawyers didn't charge the governmet a million a case in our tax dollars. Or the executioner for flipping a switch. (Lethal injectoin does't use a normal executoiner, they use a doctor. They get paid even more...) A better ounishment: Locked in a small room with the family of your victim. 10 minutes. No interference. Free punishment.
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:17 pm
thenerdqueen Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person Oops, sorry about forgeting this one. Being shut up in a tiny room isn't a punishment in itself? what about the homeless who don't have anywhere else to go or three square meals a day. for them prison actually IMPROVES life
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Twizted Humanitarian Crew
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:21 pm
Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen Jungle Soldier thenerdqueen No, two wrongs do not make a right. Killing only provokes more killing. And anyway, death is the easy way out; knowing you have killed / raped / ruined somebody's life is considerably more painful. what about those who have a complete lack of conciense and do not feel remorse for killing an innocent person Oops, sorry about forgeting this one. Being shut up in a tiny room isn't a punishment in itself? what about the homeless who don't have anywhere else to go or three square meals a day. for them prison actually IMPROVES life But there are programs for homeless people to get help/ to eat and sleep somewhere. I have participated in some located near my home. If a homeless person wants to get help, there are ways for them to do so. If they don't (and several don't), they would be miserable in prison anyway.
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:25 pm
If you have good behavior, prison isn't so bad *not speaking from experience. Speaking form other's experience*. Well, smaller prisons. Federal prison is a b**ch. In a small, local facility you get some very nice things for good behavior and you probably don;t get fooled around with by other inmates. I;ve seen inmates with IPODs and their own TV's in their cells. If you're really good you get computer access, though not in your cell and not without severe restrictions.
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:53 pm
But aren't murder, rape and other capital punishment crimes served in federal prison? I doubt that the Death Row inmates get the same priveliges that you are describing.... Correct me if I'm wrong (it is a very probable thing)
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