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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:54 am
Heya! Ok, so here's the thing: I am a Quaker by belief(God be in us, Christ be in us, etc), but I also practice (and believe) in the Moorish Orthodox equally.
The Moorish Orthodox Church is the basic kind of belief of Orthodox Christians, exept that we are radically gay accepting and have an esoteric book called the Seven Circle Koran, a story of the 'lost parts' of Jesus' life, but we don't take it to be litteral, and actually an illustation of what our own morals and beiefs/pracices are in relation to jesus. I don't pay any attenition to it, really; only for referencong. We also have liknks with a Sufi order. I don't practice in a Morrish Orthodox church, however, as it is very small in adherents, but is part of the wider Orthodox community. In effect, I go to Syrian, Greek and sometimes Russian Orthodox Churches for such practices, although I do prefer Solitary worship and communion. I also go to Quaker services, but I would go to them more if they happened more frequently in my area.
I also have another little spin on the whole lot: I am a LaVeyan and Pythagorean Satanist. I care not to explain the philosophy in great detail, but it is simply that: I don't believe in satan as a Being, nor as a symbol for Evil, which is simply the absence of God. Instead, he is a Pagan symbol for Reveling in the flesh, in Life, and enjoying every second of it. I don't sacrifice goats to satan; I am an Orthodox christian, I just take a different look on philosophy. If you still think I am a stange devil worshipper, then go to www.churchofsatan.com to clear things up.
So...what do you think?
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:07 pm
While I realize that Satanism is not devil worship, the inherent self-servingness of it makes it against the Word of God, and any attempt to add it is heretical.
Aside from that, I have no idea what the Seven Circle Koran, so I won't attack it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:45 pm
Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori While I realize that Satanism is not devil worship, the inherent self-servingness of it makes it against the Word of God, and any attempt to add it is heretical. Aside from that, I have no idea what the Seven Circle Koran, so I won't attack it. If being egoistical and enjoying myself is being heretical, then so be it. Remeber, I am also prominantly a Quaker, so the the 'Word of God' is very different in meaning than to most christians. The Word is that experience of God and His Fire (Jesus Christ) that I know as the Word of God. The Bible is an OK source, but it can be outdated and not really appliable to an individual's life. I also say that the Bible was written by men, not God. So the only things I really take from the bible are those quotes from Jesus, and perhaps a few other prophets, because I believe Him to be pure, the Perfect Child of God,(something we must all aspire to be)that was really God's energies made Man. One should also remeber that Jesus got His revelations from God directly, and also called all Men the children of God. Also, if I remeber from other threads, weren't you a Homosexual? I have no trouble with it, I am one myself, please understand that, but the Bible does say it is a sinful thing...then again, it could, and very likely, be mis-translation, but I'll talk about that later. I'll also say that nothing bad about homosexuality came out of the mouth of Jesus. Anyway...
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:52 pm
PrinceWitch Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori While I realize that Satanism is not devil worship, the inherent self-servingness of it makes it against the Word of God, and any attempt to add it is heretical. Aside from that, I have no idea what the Seven Circle Koran, so I won't attack it. If being egoistical and enjoying myself is being heretical, then so be it. Remeber, I am also prominantly a Quaker, so the the 'Word of God' is very different in meaning than to most christians. The Word is that experience of God and His Fire (Jesus Christ) that I know as the Word of God. The Bible is an OK source, but it can be outdated and not really appliable to an individual's life. I also say that the Bible was written by men, not God. So the only things I really take from the bible are those quotes from Jesus, and perhaps a few other prophets, because I believe Him to be pure, the Perfect Child of God,(something we must all aspire to be)that was really God's energies made Man. One should also remeber that Jesus got His revelations from God directly, and also called all Men the children of God. Also, if I remeber from other threads, weren't you a Homosexual? I have no trouble with it, I am one myself, please understand that, but the Bible does say it is a sinful thing...then again, it could, and very likely, be mis-translation, but I'll talk about that later. I'll also say that nothing bad about homosexuality came out of the mouth of Jesus. Anyway... Yes, I'm gay, and as this link will explain (I'm really lazy) it's not a sin. www.godmademegay.com/letter.htm ^-^ Jesus was a completely altruistic man. He wouldn't even tell God not to kill him. Using the Satanic ideals of preserving yourself before all others is therefore directly contradictory to your goal of aspiring to be Christlike.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:12 am
Well, this is the way I see it: I take Satanism as being a egoistical way of Living, as well as a Pythagorean way of viewing God and His Fire. I will also make the point that there is not 1 way of being altruistic, but in fact many. This could be jumping infront of someone who's about to get shot, or helping someone get their groceries to their car. This is because we are born and created as individuals, as was Christ (Although he was an extention of God made human, from my perspective). As we have seen, not inly in the Bible, but in other Holy books (E.G. the Qu'ran) that the smallest effort to another is enough to be a conscious child of God. I'll make the last point that the idea of Christianity, to me, is not to be a replica of Jesus in this life, but to find enlightenmen, to find God. The acts of selflessness is not to be taken as the actual means of worship or union, but to show that you are not attatched to this life. I am, in truth, not attatched, as I can enter transition with little effect. But I am self-preservent, and independant, and if you look hard enough, all humans are, not just satanists. It's a terrible disease, this Independance (non-conformity), but it is what will make us great in the end. POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:04 pm
PrinceWitch Well, this is the way I see it: I take Satanism as being a egoistical way of Living, as well as a Pythagorean way of viewing God and His Fire. I will also make the point that there is not 1 way of being altruistic, but in fact many. This could be jumping infront of someone who's about to get shot, or helping someone get their groceries to their car. This is because we are born and created as individuals, as was Christ (Although he was an extention of God made human, from my perspective). As we have seen, not inly in the Bible, but in other Holy books (E.G. the Qu'ran) that the smallest effort to another is enough to be a conscious child of God. I'll make the last point that the idea of Christianity, to me, is not to be a replica of Jesus in this life, but to find enlightenmen, to find God. The acts of selflessness is not to be taken as the actual means of worship or union, but to show that you are not attatched to this life. I am, in truth, not attatched, as I can enter transition with little effect. But I am self-preservent, and independant, and if you look hard enough, all humans are, not just satanists. It's a terrible disease, this Independance (non-conformity), but it is what will make us great in the end. POWER TO THE PEOPLE Doesn't that kind of sound like Buddhism? I mean with the whole detachment thing.
Yes, the Bible was written by men, but these men were inspired by God to write it.
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:46 pm
the site you provided has a dude dressed up like SATAN. SATANISM wouldnt have his name in it if it didnt worship him.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:30 am
This will probably start off something new in this thread. I'm an evangelist. I attend a branch of the Hillsong network in the south-east of England.
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