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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:18 pm
This isn't of any great importance or anything but I swear that my county or whoever decided what material we learn will not give up.
It's that time of the year again. The time in health class where instead of being taught different material we're being taught the same s**t over and over again. And what might this material consist of?
"Abstinence until marriage!"
"Don't have sex. You'll get STD's!"
"If you have sex and get pregnant your life is ruined! There are no other options besides having a baby!"
They weren't exhactly in those words but you can tell that's what they're actually saying on the inside. I'm serious too. I flipped through the little Family Life book and it's just a bunch of things about saving sex for marriage or your future goals will be ruined.
Things like that. And then there are these little interviews where people talk about how getting an STD, getting pregnant, or getting someone else pregnant changed their lives. Things like that.
Honestly I think it's stupid. I flip through a few pages in the workbook. We have to interview our parents for each of the eight lessons about some stupid crap that we don't need to ask. And guess what? It's pretty much all abstinence and not giving into the pressure of sex based.
Here are a few of the questions....
"What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?"
Well...That's one. And then here's some for the quizes.
List three possible emotional consequences of teen sex. Describe how abstinence provides freedom: How does the media message mislead young people concerning sexual activity.
List linebackers for each of the following lines. Everyone else is doing it-- If you love me, you'll prove it-- It's fun you'll enjoy it--
And they make it seem like that if you do get pregnant then there is no other choice. If you get pregnant you're going to have a baby. You're going to have to give up college. They make it sound like you're going to have to give up your whole future.
I plan on argueing about some of the things in the book with my teacher and I think my friend is planning on it too, but for the next couple of weeks our student teacher who is REALLY bossy is going to teach. I'm also assuming she failed geography class on the count of she said Spain wasn't in Europe.(Even though that has nothing to do with this.) gonk
I'm actually thinking of writing a letter to the people in charge. Is it the school board that decides what material we learn or what? I'm a little confused on this.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:41 pm
lol for the parental questions you should just write in your own responses. xD
"What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?"
I don't expect my child to remain abstinent until marriage, I just expect her to use proper birth control methods and should she have an accident I'll drive her to the abortion clinic myself!
Oh gods they would all probably die.. xd
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:21 pm
Oh, yes! I would absolutely write your school board, I would imagine they had something to do with this. I might write to your district's representative in Congress, since unless I am wrong Federal funding tends to favor schools who employ these kinds of programs? I would include references to studies that show how risky and ineffective these kinds of programs are, and chide them for gambling with the potential health of students based on an ideology rooted in utter head-in-the-sand denial. Oh, and if you want to be even more of a stinker, I don't suppose your school's newspaper would be interested in a Letter to the Editor in this vein? biggrin
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:18 pm
'Cause everyone knows the Magic Marriage fairy makes STDs go away once you're hitched.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:46 pm
Wahhhh... crying
I'm sorry you live their. I agree that abstinence is the only 100% sure way (aside from getting raped) to prevent that stuff, but hey, 8%-10% condom failure rate isn't that sleezy either! wink
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:47 pm
SterileNeedles lol for the parental questions you should just write in your own responses. xD "What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?" I don't expect my child to remain abstinent until marriage, I just expect her to use proper birth control methods and should she have an accident I'll drive her to the abortion clinic myself!Oh gods they would all probably die.. xd XD "What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?" Just use condoms. And don't get a backalley abortion- I'll drive you to a legal clinic.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:25 pm
..Le Chat du Noir.. SterileNeedles lol for the parental questions you should just write in your own responses. xD "What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?" I don't expect my child to remain abstinent until marriage, I just expect her to use proper birth control methods and should she have an accident I'll drive her to the abortion clinic myself!Oh gods they would all probably die.. xd XD "What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?" Just use condoms. And don't get a backalley abortion- I'll drive you to a legal clinic.Is it sad that you guys pretty much summed up what I plan on telling my potential future children? xd That does sound like a sucky sex ed class. JROTC was better, for god's sake!
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:16 pm
My school put up a poster like 'Abstinence, Safe, Sex, Love, Waiting, Protection, AIDS' in a ... scrabble sytle arrangement.
All I could think was about how much that person obviously failed at scrabble.
Because, honestly, AIDS isn't a word. And most of the other words added up to, like, 5 points.
Ironically, my school doesn't teach abstinence.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:19 pm
I attended 9th grade in Washington State where we had the most extreme abstinence only program I have ever seen.
I took a class that was supposed to be on child care and parenting because I was interested in babysitting and working with little kids. I joined the class because I heard that for part of the year we got to work in the local kindergartens and head start. Well, we did do that. But 2/3 of our class was nothing but abstinence education. Our teacher actually confessed to us that the only way we could get funding for the school and the class was to complete all this abstinence crap. So we did it. We even came up with the "Sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" slogan that both Washington and Idaho now use for their television ads. What I really hated about the class is that most of the abstinence education centered around how horrible children were, how hard it was to take care of children, and how having a child would ruin our lives. The "sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" ads still have that same theme and it pisses me off so much. Children are not punishment and they should NEVER be a horrible unwanted burden. We even had to take home those "Baby think it over" electronic dolls that are supposed to teach you how horrible parenthood is. (I actually liked mine and got a perfect score on it).
The best part of the class was when we arranged for a guest speaker that taught us that all girls who have sex before marriage are like lollipops that someone has pulled the wrapper off and licked, meaning no one else will ever want them. As someone who lost their virginity to a child molester at age 8, that little seminar was almost enough to drive me to suicide. This guy truly convinced me that I was completely worthless and no one would ever want me because I had been raped. Thank god I got some sense and some self esteem after that.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:51 am
Aiko_Kaida I attended 9th grade in Washington State where we had the most extreme abstinence only program I have ever seen. I took a class that was supposed to be on child care and parenting because I was interested in babysitting and working with little kids. I joined the class because I heard that for part of the year we got to work in the local kindergartens and head start. Well, we did do that. But 2/3 of our class was nothing but abstinence education. Our teacher actually confessed to us that the only way we could get funding for the school and the class was to complete all this abstinence crap. So we did it. We even came up with the "Sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" slogan that both Washington and Idaho now use for their television ads. What I really hated about the class is that most of the abstinence education centered around how horrible children were, how hard it was to take care of children, and how having a child would ruin our lives. The "sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" ads still have that same theme and it pisses me off so much. Children are not punishment and they should NEVER be a horrible unwanted burden. We even had to take home those "Baby think it over" electronic dolls that are supposed to teach you how horrible parenthood is. (I actually liked mine and got a perfect score on it). The best part of the class was when we arranged for a guest speaker that taught us that all girls who have sex before marriage are like lollipops that someone has pulled the wrapper off and licked, meaning no one else will ever want them. As someone who lost their virginity to a child molester at age 8, that little seminar was almost enough to drive me to suicide. This guy truly convinced me that I was completely worthless and no one would ever want me because I had been raped. Thank god I got some sense and some self esteem after that. ... That's disgusting. Seriously. No guy wants a girl that isn't a virgin? Soi what, are the guys special and allowed to have sex? Or does that mean no girls will want them? I hate abstinence-only crap. If I'd been fed that crock, I wouldn't have the awesome relationship I have now. Plus, I still have lollies after people have licked them. So I guess I'm abnormal. XP Also: Everyone else is doing it-- I can name people who aren't. If you love me, you'll prove it-- And if you love me, you'll wait until I'm ready. Not necessarily for marriage, but until I want to. It's fun you'll enjoy it-- Why don't we test that theory?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:57 am
Rinaqa Aiko_Kaida I attended 9th grade in Washington State where we had the most extreme abstinence only program I have ever seen. I took a class that was supposed to be on child care and parenting because I was interested in babysitting and working with little kids. I joined the class because I heard that for part of the year we got to work in the local kindergartens and head start. Well, we did do that. But 2/3 of our class was nothing but abstinence education. Our teacher actually confessed to us that the only way we could get funding for the school and the class was to complete all this abstinence crap. So we did it. We even came up with the "Sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" slogan that both Washington and Idaho now use for their television ads. What I really hated about the class is that most of the abstinence education centered around how horrible children were, how hard it was to take care of children, and how having a child would ruin our lives. The "sex lasts a moment, parenthood lasts a lifetime" ads still have that same theme and it pisses me off so much. Children are not punishment and they should NEVER be a horrible unwanted burden. We even had to take home those "Baby think it over" electronic dolls that are supposed to teach you how horrible parenthood is. (I actually liked mine and got a perfect score on it). The best part of the class was when we arranged for a guest speaker that taught us that all girls who have sex before marriage are like lollipops that someone has pulled the wrapper off and licked, meaning no one else will ever want them. As someone who lost their virginity to a child molester at age 8, that little seminar was almost enough to drive me to suicide. This guy truly convinced me that I was completely worthless and no one would ever want me because I had been raped. Thank god I got some sense and some self esteem after that. ... That's disgusting. Seriously. No guy wants a girl that isn't a virgin? Soi what, are the guys special and allowed to have sex? Or does that mean no girls will want them? I hate abstinence-only crap. If I'd been fed that crock, I wouldn't have the awesome relationship I have now. Plus, I still have lollies after people have licked them. So I guess I'm abnormal. XP Also: Everyone else is doing it-- I can name people who aren't. If you love me, you'll prove it-- And if you love me, you'll wait until I'm ready. Not necessarily for marriage, but until I want to. It's fun you'll enjoy it-- Why don't we test that theory? I honestly believed all that s**t until I met my fiance. We were friends before we dated and he knew some of my background. I think we had only been dating about a week when I confessed to him that I had been sexually abused and wasn't a virgin. I was sure he was going to just walk away because no guy wants "spoiled goods". Well, he didn't walk away and I found out that that spoiled goods thing was a bunch of s**t. Luckily, my fiance went to Idaho schools his whole life and as ******** up and conservative Idaho is, they don't actually teach abstinence only. When He was in 9th grade he put a condom on a banana for health class. By the way, I like your answers. I'm all for abstinence until you are ready, and I encourage most people to wait until they are adults (or at least close to it). I think it's relevant to teach all teenagers how to deal with that kind of pressure. No one should have sex because of pressure or manipulation. I always liked this answer It's fun you'll enjoy it - So are video games, and they aren't all messy and sticky. Wanna play WoW?
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:02 am
Everyone has pretty much summed up how I feel about abstinence-only education. It's stupid and puts students and risk and I abhor the fact that my country supports it. That said... TheDemonNurse List linebackers for each of the following lines. Everyone else is doing it-- If you love me, you'll prove it-- It's fun you'll enjoy it-- I don't see a problem with this exercise. No one should be coercing you into sex, and having prepared a response for lame excuses like that isn't a bad idea. I don't support abstinence until marriage for the entire world, but I do support putting thought into the decision to have sex ahead of time, and as far as I can tell, that's all this exercise is teaching. Those questions for your parents though, are.... stressed
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:22 pm
You should have a little fun with it! TheDemonNurse Here are a few of the questions.... "What advice would you give me to help me remain abstinent until marriage?" "Well I don't know if you need to wait 'till marriage.... No man wants to ******** a prude." Quote: List three possible emotional consequences of teen sex. 1. God will hate you. 2. Pastor will hate you. 3. Pastor's wife will tell people stuff about you. Quote: Describe how abstinence provides freedom: Football players won't be texting you inappropiate things and writing about you on the bathroom wall. Quote: How does the media message mislead young people concerning sexual activity. It tells them Justin Timberlake is sexy. He's not. Seriously, have you seen his hair? Quote: List linebackers for each of the following lines. Everyone else is doing it-- Everyone else is also listening to "Pretty Ricky" Quote: If you love me, you'll prove it-- That actually sounds like a spy movie where the villian gets his girlfriend to help him kill the good guys. Quote: It's fun you'll enjoy it-- That's what they said about "From Justin to Kelly". I want my 90 minutes back.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:55 pm
Maaan I hope in 15 years they're still giving those out, I'd be delighted if my daughter brought one home. I'd do my best to make the teachers cry.
I plan on educating my kid about sexuality LONG before she can be tainted by the public school system. We just can't ever let her dad know rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:59 pm
Quote: List three possible emotional consequences of teen sex. Just remember also that consequences aren't always negative, there are such things as positive consequences. List positive consequences instead.
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