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Do you think we should move to Toyhou.se?
  Yes, I think that might be a good idea.
  No, I think TGPS should stay on Gaia.
  No, I think TGPS should move to a different site (please specify which.)
  I'm okay with whatever you decide.
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Captain

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:59 am


I am thinking about moving TGPS off of Gaia, or at least the events and such, I'd probably keep the thread around though. The inflation has gotten a bit confusing and I've been thinking that I would rather sell the pre-made (and finished prior to selling) event Pocky Boys like adoptables for real money rather than pixel gold that seems highly unstable (Pocky customs are also about the only commissions I get in the first place). So off-site would be better.

But I also want to keep the community because I'd prefer to keep the RP and stuff. Toyhou.se lets you create a 'World' that has it's own forum, so there would be a place to RP. I think it would be a good place to move to. (It does require an invite at the moment, but chances to get invites can easily be found by searching 'Toyhou.se invite' on the journals section of DeviantART)

Also if I move it off-site I will probably lessen growth requirements for current pocky boys (still thinking about how I want to do with new pocky boys off-site.) so the current owners can have their pocky boys grow sooner.

It'd be nice if you could post that you are still around, and if you have any comments or questions about the poll. Would like to make the decision before Chinese New Year. XD

Addendum: If you post 'No' to the poll, but do not post that you are still around and that you think it should stay on Gaia. I may dismiss those votes. As I am more interested in opinions from people who are actually going to be around the shop.

Also, when I 'stay on Gaia', I don't mean that if the shoppe moves to Toyhou.se or elsewhere that I would abandon the thread and guild here, but Pocky Boy sales would not take place here anymore (for the most part, there may be exceptions to that).
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:34 am


i'm around in lurking mode, which is why I havn't checked in with my little panda. I think it's a good idea, but I'm ok with whatever you decide.

For the off-site growths I was thinking perhaps auction for growing pocky boys? Have a set price for the pre-made boys. Or set a price teir for growing them based on RP. The more rp the lower the price.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:02 am


Can I see a link? I'd like to know what I am voting for?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:55 pm


Freaksrus
Can I see a link? I'd like to know what I am voting for?


http://toyhou.se/

Sorry, the name is the link, so I didn't think to post a separate link... ^_^;

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Captain

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:08 pm


Tygress Dream
i'm around in lurking mode, which is why I havn't checked in with my little panda. I think it's a good idea, but I'm ok with whatever you decide.

For the off-site growths I was thinking perhaps auction for growing pocky boys? Have a set price for the pre-made boys. Or set a price teir for growing them based on RP. The more rp the lower the price.
That's okay, I've been kinda distracted from the shop for a while until now, myself. XD

Hmm, yes, I think that is a good suggestion. I will consider it~ ^o^/
PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:44 pm


Apple wants the shop to stay! I've been in lurking mode though ^^"

A lot of the shops I have been in have kept their gold rates at their same pre-inflation prices. Even one of them is a shop like GP where the art is custom ^_^" Just a suggestion since I can't do real life transactions over the internet and rely on Gaia gold for adoptables/breedables ^_^"

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:35 pm


I like the idea of moving it. Because of inflation I haven't been around at all, but I check back to see if I have notifications (such as this one!) This would be the only community I'm active in, so I'm in favour of moving.

(this is hibirdii btw, I changed my username!)
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:10 am


Apple Blossom19
Apple wants the shop to stay! I've been in lurking mode though ^^"

A lot of the shops I have been in have kept their gold rates at their same pre-inflation prices. Even one of them is a shop like GP where the art is custom ^_^" Just a suggestion since I can't do real life transactions over the internet and rely on Gaia gold for adoptables/breedables ^_^"

Well, I wouldn't be abandoning the shop here entirely, it's just most of the sales would be taken offsite. Probably the RPing too (nobody has posted in the RP forum since January last year anyway...) as you can subscribe to get notifications from threads in a world's forum, where as in a gaia guild you either have to be the thread creator or be quoted to get notifications.

This isn't quite so much about me changing rates or anything. I mean, if I have an auction, that certainly isn't going to be anywhere near the neighborhood it was in the past. The last pocky auction went for 20mil. Apparently the average gold people have nowadays is practically like 1bil or more. I still don't understand where all that gold came from. People have that much, so they'll use that much.

Actually, a thought that has occurred to me. Is that if I bring TGPS over to Toyhou.se, most of pocky boys will be sold for real money, but I will most probably have free events too. As opposed to on here where it pretty much relies on pixel gold which I have little interest in nowadays, I would not mind so much doing more free events.

--- - (actually, I am much more inclined to do so, since I am more interested in the RP aspect of the shop then for how much gold people can spend. You might ask why I don't just give them all away for free (or for a flat rate) in RP events then... Because, to be completely honest, after a while it does get kind of draining to be designing and drawing two (Child and bishie when they grow) fully CG'd fullbody art for free (even being paid pixel gold still counts as free, since you can't live on pixel gold) all the time that might not even be used (there are a lot of owners who buy a pocky boy and then just disappear), when I could be working on commissions, artwork of my own characters, fanart, gift art, etc.)

--- - Which for those who don't have the money can still acquire Pocky Boys just fine, and also does not rely on how much gold you have in the first place. It also does not cost money to have an account on Toyhou.se.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:12 am


aviesaurum
I like the idea of moving it. Because of inflation I haven't been around at all, but I check back to see if I have notifications (such as this one!) This would be the only community I'm active in, so I'm in favour of moving.

(this is hibirdii btw, I changed my username!)
I wasn't around much myself, but I hadn't even noticed the inflation until I saw it in a friend's thread and went... Wat? I'm glad you check back and saw my notification though, hibi! heart
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:03 am


hola hola. i've been in srs lurking mode and am okay with whichever you decide. pirate

OrionDeltaOmega

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aviesaurum

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:43 pm


I can't stay away from this place, even if I'm away for periods of time. q o q

I just got an account on toyhouse and I have to say it seems like a good environment for both roleplaying and keeping track of characters. I'd love to really get into the rp side this time around!

Pixel gold seems pretty obsolete in all ways. ;;

I know it's not about changing rates or anything and this is mostly just a side comment but you put soooo much work into these and the designs I totally encourage more RL opportunities.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:24 am


OrionDeltaOmega
hola hola. i've been in srs lurking mode and am okay with whichever you decide. pirate
Good to see you still around, lurking mode or not. XD

aviesaurum
I can't stay away from this place, even if I'm away for periods of time. q o q

I just got an account on toyhouse and I have to say it seems like a good environment for both roleplaying and keeping track of characters. I'd love to really get into the rp side this time around!

Pixel gold seems pretty obsolete in all ways. ;;

I know it's not about changing rates or anything and this is mostly just a side comment but you put soooo much work into these and the designs I totally encourage more RL opportunities.

Haha, I know the feeling.

Oh cool. I've actually already started making TGPS over there. XD It's still kind of rough though and things need editing for the different site (and some things need information that I never put together), but it's there. Even got a nice even number (900) for it. X'D

Yeah, pretty much does.

I do. x'D The latest pocky boy (whom is up next for sale once I get things sorted quickly) took nearly 8 hours of work... Which actually doesn't even count the time I spent figuring out the design... XD

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Captain

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Xinda Nobody

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:51 am


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Apparently the average gold people have nowadays is practically like 1bil or more. I still don't understand where all that gold came from. People have that much, so they'll use that much.


All those RIGs of the Cash-For-Gold items that were constantly released. The thing that got me about that, was that they'd say "get it now while you still can!! You could 'win' X amount of gold or even 1,000,000 gold!!" and then the next day it'd have a, "Oh! We have some more! Try again and see how much gold you get! You might even get 1 BILLION gold!!!"

And now that that's so high up, if you do the daily chance thing? Each click could get you 100,000-500,000 on average (at least that's how it's been for me. In fact, one of them gave me 2,000,000 before.). Though there's also the "5,000" ones which is just... wow in comparison. Meh. The inflation is ridiculous >.>;; *coughs*


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Actually, a thought that has occurred to me. Is that if I bring TGPS over to Toyhou.se, most of pocky boys will be sold for real money, but I will most probably have free events too. As opposed to on here where it pretty much relies on pixel gold which I have little interest in nowadays, I would not mind so much doing more free events.


That was one of the things I was going to bring up. If there are other things you're interested in (such as Animal Crossing villagers or items, Pokemon, or any other "digital" items...) you could even have those as "trade" material for the Pocky Boys for those without real money? Of course, having to figure out the worth and all might be annoying?

Though free events are cool, too XD


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You might ask why I don't just give them all away for free (or for a flat rate) in RP events then... Because, to be completely honest, after a while it does get kind of draining to be designing and drawing two (Child and bishie when they grow) fully CG'd fullbody art for free (even being paid pixel gold still counts as free, since you can't live on pixel gold) all the time that might not even be used (there are a lot of owners who buy a pocky boy and then just disappear), when I could be working on commissions, artwork of my own characters, fanart, gift art, etc.)


I completely understand. To constantly be giving "free art"... which takes a different sort of time and effort than obtaining gold... Not that in some ways it can be difficult to gain gold, but it's... different... I think. Mostly because I also do creative things and have also been on Gaia for almost 12 years (oh gosh, I didn't know it was that long X.X) and seen how the gold bit goes...

Every now and then selling things for gold is awesome! But, after a while... that alone can't always be good. Especially if you don't have anything to use the gold on. While the art itself is, technically, One Of A Kind...

Not that there's anything wrong with wanting gold, either! I sometimes do, too!

So. Doing it for free? Yeah... all the time? That'd be too much for anyone, I think...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:02 am


I'm still around. Just been really busy with RL though I'd really love to pick up on the RP aspect of the shop once again whichever you think works better for you overall. ^^

I do have to admit that the gold inflation on Gaia, though it's only pixel gold, is kinda disturbing. If shops try to raise price to match the market rate, there'll be some people who'll be discouraged from trying for a character since the price range may be way out of their reach. Yet shops have to pay their artists for the effort they put into the art so this inflation has kind of landed everyone in a sticky situation indeed. I think it'll probably be good to move the shop to another site where everyone won't have to be distracted by all these yet you can have the choice of giving away characters free or through a raffle of sorts (perhaps free characters can be template based instead of full customs?), or selling them for RL money with how much time you're putting into them.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:49 am


Xinda Nobody
Ahha... And here I thought they were actually trying to get rid of some of the gold (with gold sinks), but noo... gotta flood it instead...

---

While I appreciate the thought, I don't play Animal Crossing (I know, GASP), and I haven't actually played Pokemon since Emerald. XD I don't really know what kind of "digital" item I would be interested in. And it would also require both the person wanting to trade to have the game or whatever and for me to as well (plus I would have to want it). The closest thing that I could think of would be something from an MMO, but I've gotten quite distracted from playing MMO's lately. (though I am quite interested in Black Desert when it comes out in english. XD) Only other thing I can think of would be artwork (but I can be picky on that, so not everyone would be in a position to do that).

To be completely honest the things that interest me the most lately aren't "digital" things (unless they are games themselves amongst a few other things... but then that doesn't work for the 'without real money'. xD). Cosplay is one thing that interests me a lot. X'D

Thus why free events work best. XD

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Ultimately the "free" part is a matter of perception. If you feel you are getting something in return that you value, then it is not quite "free". It's basically just a form of trade. You could say, in Gaia gold's case, it's the difference between perceiving the pixel gold as dollar bills that you want to have because you see use for them or monopoly money that is fun to have in the game but doesn't quite hold the same appeal (as it once did).

No, nothing wrong with it. XD

Lots of time... Lots and lots of time... Good gad, I seriously don't know the meaning of 'simple' sometimes. XD ... Just look at Ai and all those ruffles. XD And Kal and his fizz... and Kazimir's snakey gorgon hair.
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