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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:33 am
Ok I am curious about this lineage thing, when I first started Dragon cave I was obsessed with breeding mostly my cave born dragons and almost never abandoning eggs.

This led to a scenario where I was completely out of the loop with lineages, in fact most of the babies I bred are only in my cave.

Now I am curious about what makes a lineage special, I mean is it a famous name or is it about "breeding true" or "pure" lineages?

I know that two of my dragons have produced only one offspring, together, and that offspring is pure and second gen but I do not think it makes it special.

So what do people look for in lineages? What exactly is the big deal? I heard it was the shorter the lineage the better but now I see people talking about wonderful long lineages and I am confused.

Can someone explain this to me?  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:22 am
My guess is that longer lineages that have dragons with a certain part of their name being the same is basically the only thing that makes them special. Like the Dorkface lineage. (I think) Most if not all of that person's dragons have "Dorkface" in their name somewhere so when they drop an egg that someone else takes and uses for breeding...well, eventually there will come an egg with a long, mixed lineage that if you look back on it, it has what might be considered a "rare" lineage since most people don't seem to name their dragons by one set thing.

sweatdrop Ehm...I don't think I explained that well....Basically it's all about the name! xD Would you like to see a dragon with a lineage full of sed3 gddg7 eDefs or would you like "The Original Dorkface |"?

That's just what I think. Could be wrong.  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:04 am
So what about a lineage that starts with racingstripedkitty and Terrapyrite?

Or Electrodraco, GEICOnotGECKO, HonoluluSouthShore, HadesDracoFellFlame, ilikeninjagaiden, Vulcan Lorde o' the Horde, Zardoz, HarvestGale, or even Hyrulian Desarta and Le A'more Ressurection?

Are those names nice in a lineage?
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Here is one of my "self contained" lineaged dragons, bred from cave born dragons as a example; would this lineage be a good one?

By the way those names are not made up, they are my dragon names on my scroll; and I rarely breed them so thier names are not out there. Not sure if they would be a highly desired lineage if they were though.

I also have a Deep Sea Dragon named Saltan, oh I am so original.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:17 am
-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:24 am
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-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg


So what about a second generation dragon lineage?
http://dragcave.net/lineage/fmk3
Self contained(my cave only)
http://dragcave.net/lineage/FlQWF
Outside contained (other user owns parents)

Are they any good at all?  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:28 am
Huh...never knew people did that. I plan on killing a few dragons on Halloween Night myself just so I can try to raise up a few more zombie dragons, but I plan on using common dragons...maybe mints xD Hopefully it won't mess up any lineages.  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:27 am
There are all kinds of lineages out there... I know I have some Dorkface, Thuwed, and RedSox dragons myself.

I'm also taking part in the Weeping Angels lineage project (any Dr Who fans would know what that is)
http://forums.dragcave.net/index.php?showtopic=151631&st=0&#e;ntry7488433

Myself, I'm kinda starting my own lineage, as all my dragons have the same surname. It's actually cool to see others continue the names on.

In the three years I've been gone though ... it seems people are more picky about lineages and stuff... myself I like longer ones, especially if they go back to old dragons from like 2008 or earlier.

I find vampire lineages to be cool. I only bite cave born eggs (unless it's one given to me special to bite from some one who wants a vamp in the lineage) so I'll have a cb vamp bit by a cave born vamp bit by an original 2008 vamp. It's kinda fun.  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:13 pm
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-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg


So what about a second generation dragon lineage?
http://dragcave.net/lineage/fmk3
Self contained(my cave only)
http://dragcave.net/lineage/FlQWF
Outside contained (other user owns parents)

Are they any good at all?



O_O Why do you think they are not good? ^_^ Don't worry yourself too much about lineage unless you are planning to make a special pattern or trading purposes. Long lineage are beautiful too especially if they have those sprites that belong to the artists.

For me, I want to get every shimmer lineages that was won in last year Christmas for personal reason so I have to get good lineages pattern like stairstep or spiral. Thanks to Minibobini for the early starter help. It is fun for me to hunt those lineages that I still not own XD.  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:53 pm
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-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg


So what about a second generation dragon lineage?
http://dragcave.net/lineage/fmk3
Self contained(my cave only)
http://dragcave.net/lineage/FlQWF
Outside contained (other user owns parents)

Are they any good at all?



O_O Why do you think they are not good? ^_^ Don't worry yourself too much about lineage unless you are planning to make a special pattern or trading purposes. Long lineage are beautiful too especially if they have those sprites that belong to the artists.

For me, I want to get every shimmer lineages that was won in last year Christmas for personal reason so I have to get good lineages pattern like stairstep or spiral. Thanks to Minibobini for the early starter help. It is fun for me to hunt those lineages that I still not own XD.

Because I am a complete dunce at lineages, actually my original plan was to breed my frilled dragon (first) Terramajor and make a lineage related to him. But then they were sterilized..

Since then I completely dropped out of the lineage loop, in fact I don't even use the forums unless it is event related because well I guess I never got into it. I have long lineaged, short lineaged, cave born, and self contained lineaged dragons, but overall I had no idea how it worked or what was considered a good lineage.

So are those two good?  
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:12 pm
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-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg


So what about a second generation dragon lineage?
http://dragcave.net/lineage/fmk3
Self contained(my cave only)
http://dragcave.net/lineage/FlQWF
Outside contained (other user owns parents)

Are they any good at all?



O_O Why do you think they are not good? ^_^ Don't worry yourself too much about lineage unless you are planning to make a special pattern or trading purposes. Long lineage are beautiful too especially if they have those sprites that belong to the artists.

For me, I want to get every shimmer lineages that was won in last year Christmas for personal reason so I have to get good lineages pattern like stairstep or spiral. Thanks to Minibobini for the early starter help. It is fun for me to hunt those lineages that I still not own XD.

Because I am a complete dunce at lineages, actually my original plan was to breed my frilled dragon (first) Terramajor and make a lineage related to him. But then they were sterilized..

Since then I completely dropped out of the lineage loop, in fact I don't even use the forums unless it is event related because well I guess I never got into it. I have long lineaged, short lineaged, cave born, and self contained lineaged dragons, but overall I had no idea how it worked or what was considered a good lineage.

So are those two good?

Uhuh. They are good starter. If you are going to make a stairstep, then make sure the next offspring of that lines are the same gender as the second generation. If you want to make a spiral, then the third generation should be influence the opposite sex.

Stairstep are cool to me since we can make arrow head lineage like this one.
http://dragcave.net/lineage/RdGpf
http://dragcave.net/lineage/oQtsW

I didn't get Frill crying , my computer was much slower back then so I got frustrated and left dragoncave. i wish get Frill before they were sterilized crying .  

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:26 pm
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-_- Well I learned about lineage while trading dragons. When I got my first Layla lineage (shimmer), my friends said that it is ruined since there are death on the second generation. They said that people are reluctant to trade when there is a death on the lineage.

Like this http://dragcave.net/lineage/HQdnx

Basically, people don't like long lineage since there is a chance that an owner in the middle will have a dumb plan to kill their dragon. When they do, the lineage before the one that they killed will be gone on the lineage page. So those born under the dead dragon will be screwed.

Lineage that people mostly love to make are
checker lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/8N3O2
Or the normal stairstep lineage http://dragcave.net/lineage/cCNUu
Or the spiral http://dragcave.net/lineage/skdBg


So what about a second generation dragon lineage?
http://dragcave.net/lineage/fmk3
Self contained(my cave only)
http://dragcave.net/lineage/FlQWF
Outside contained (other user owns parents)

Are they any good at all?



O_O Why do you think they are not good? ^_^ Don't worry yourself too much about lineage unless you are planning to make a special pattern or trading purposes. Long lineage are beautiful too especially if they have those sprites that belong to the artists.

For me, I want to get every shimmer lineages that was won in last year Christmas for personal reason so I have to get good lineages pattern like stairstep or spiral. Thanks to Minibobini for the early starter help. It is fun for me to hunt those lineages that I still not own XD.

Because I am a complete dunce at lineages, actually my original plan was to breed my frilled dragon (first) Terramajor and make a lineage related to him. But then they were sterilized..

Since then I completely dropped out of the lineage loop, in fact I don't even use the forums unless it is event related because well I guess I never got into it. I have long lineaged, short lineaged, cave born, and self contained lineaged dragons, but overall I had no idea how it worked or what was considered a good lineage.

So are those two good?

Uhuh. They are good starter. If you are going to make a stairstep, then make sure the next offspring of that lines are the same gender as the second generation. If you want to make a spiral, then the third generation should be influence the opposite sex.

Stairstep are cool to me since we can make arrow head lineage like this one.
http://dragcave.net/lineage/RdGpf
http://dragcave.net/lineage/oQtsW

I didn't get Frill crying , my computer was much slower back then so I got frustrated and left dragoncave. i wish get Frill before they were sterilized crying .

Oh that is cool I should do that if I can, and we Frill lovers were all upset when they were sterilized; but I also am sad I missed bright pinks as well.
I got mine on a really slow computer on my first try, I was so thrilled then heartbroken when I realized he could no longer breed.

In my opinion they should have done something to revive them, or try at least.
I only have three of them, all related; father son and grandson.

Terramajor
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Terraminor
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Terragale
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If they had not been sterilized I was planning on rebreeding Terramajor with a caveborn and only let the frill eggs live, so I would create a pure lineage or close to it of Frills.

Those plans were dashed.  
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:28 am
concerning lineages, i learned about them from here
http://dragcave.wikia.com/wiki/Lineages

personally all these breeding rules just make me @_@. i just chose to have my dragons mate and make up stories about them, how they got their mate, their children etc.

all these fancy looking lineages are too complicated for me xD  

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:48 pm
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Terramajor
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Terraminor
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Terragale
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If they had not been sterilized I was planning on rebreeding Terramajor with a caveborn and only let the frill eggs live, so I would create a pure lineage or close to it of Frills.

Those plans were dashed.


depends on how you look at sterilized... they will still breed but only have the other dragon's egg type. So you could make a new lineage stemming from that.


We could start out own lineage as well for the group and try to have a dragon from each member in the line.  
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:39 pm
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Terramajor
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Terraminor
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Terragale
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If they had not been sterilized I was planning on rebreeding Terramajor with a caveborn and only let the frill eggs live, so I would create a pure lineage or close to it of Frills.

Those plans were dashed.


depends on how you look at sterilized... they will still breed but only have the other dragon's egg type. So you could make a new lineage stemming from that.


We could start out own lineage as well for the group and try to have a dragon from each member in the line.

That is a good idea, maybe try to see if one of each type possible could be bred from them? (since they will only breed and create the other dragon type's egg)
Anyone interested in this can message me.  

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