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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:55 am


American superheroes typically have a "Superman" persona and a "Clark Kent" persona, while Japanese superheroes are usually like "I'm Jeff. Yes the same Jeff who can fly and has super strength and saved the Earth several times. Why do you ask?".

I can enjoy the first kind, but if I had superpowers I honestly couldn't picture myself going to all that work to keep my identity a secret. Besides, I wouldn't want to have to act all big and important in one persona while acting all laid back and weak in another.

Yeah, people would try to blackmail me by threatening my loved ones, but that's the risk that comes from being associated with a superpowered person. I'd just very truthfully say "You kill them, I kill you, and you will suffer as much as they did if not moreso.".
PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:33 am


I think that the Dark Knight Summed it up the best:
"So let me get this straight? Your going to try and blackmail someone who runs around the streets late at night and beats the living daylights out of the harshest criminals on the city?
.... Good luck."

Yeah, If I could bounce bullets off my hide and had powers to save the world I'd probably flaunt it too... granted I would probably become corrupted off that power so I wouldn't really have a reason to hide it. blaugh

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:19 am


Well, it really depends on what American superheroes you're looking into. There's a lot more than just the Superman archtype. I mean, hell. On Marvel's side, look up the trade Marvel Boy. DC/Vertigo you should look into Sandman or hell, the current Action Comics now that they've given the book to Lex Luthor are actually better than some actual books I've read.

Take for example DC's Booster Gold. It's about a failed athlete who works as a janitor in a museum in the future who got sick off everything, stole a bunch of crap from the superhero exhibit and came back in time to be a super hero. Now he's currently trying to fix all the problems in between dimensions, quite possibly saving mulitple realities on a regular basis BUT to keep his secret everyone needs to think he's some a*****e superhero who's only in it for money and fame so everyone distances themselves from him. It's ridiculously endearing.

If you ever want some ideas on comics that break the Superman archtype let me know, I can give you tons of ideas.

And yes, I'm a nerd. biggrin
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:28 am


Hey! You are not using proper comparisons? What about Sailor Moon? Saint Tail? Power Rangers? They all have secret identities when not being heroes like Superman!

Superman is old, old, old and was created in a time when all Super Heroes either "needed" an alias so they could live normal lives, or were heroes 24/7, or lived in a world where everyone has powers. Marvel was was the one that broke this "standard" by creating open heroes such as the Fantastic Four, who had no alias but still tried to live normal lives and it picked over into X-men and beyond. They came way before anime and manga started rise so if anything Japan copied America's growing successful trend.

Also, look at Japans cartoons and comics (anime and manga) and compare them to America's. American comics may be more cliche but their stories have survived the test of time, Superman has been around since the 50's and Captain America fought Nazis! I think the longest running anime/mangas I've ever seen would probably be DBZ, Mega Man, and Astro Boy and those series were corney as hell!

By the way. Japan has been reworking the American comics as well! Go to any book store and I guarantee you will find the X-men Manga (it's like a cheap rip-off of Ouran Host Club)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:03 pm


Plus, speaking of cliches, how many Japanese comics must I wade through where the lead is a semi-intellegent yet socially awkward outcast who finds a female who is either robot, alien or...I guess OTHER. Then, after taking that person into his home and making awkward sexual advances he starts to come out of his shell and learn to be a better person whilst inevitably building a relationship up with the robot, alien or...OTHER who helped him get to that point. I get it. You're horny. Point taken.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:33 pm


Ah, I remember my good 'ol Tenchi days. . . :3

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Plus, speaking of cliches, how many Japanese comics must I wade through where the lead is a semi-intellegent yet socially awkward outcast who finds a female who is either robot, alien or...I guess OTHER. Then, after taking that person into his home and making awkward sexual advances he starts to come out of his shell and learn to be a better person whilst inevitably building a relationship up with the robot, alien or...OTHER who helped him get to that point. I get it. You're horny. Point taken.

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