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 Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:38 pm
I'm having trouble writing this, there's just a feeling that says not to but I need to have some sort of way to get it out....
I've had some really weird experiences, they started randomly after I started third grade. It started when I had a really weird dream, very unlike my usual dream. I'm not going to put it down here cause it really freaked me out and still does.
Dreams have always played a large part in my life. I'm just about always able to influence my dream even if just a little. I had a really odd one a few years ago. I was in WWII Germany and I was a young Jewish girl, getting ready to go into hiding. I had two sisters and my mother, no father. We hid in the secret basement in the house I was in. We had only told one person about were we were going, our house keeper. It ended up she sold us out, and we were captured by the Nazis. I was separated from my mother and baby sister. My sister and I were taken to this weird pavilion thing with what looked like a pizza booth in it. We were told to sit at the benches and that we wouldn't be harmed. There was a guy behind the pizza thing and he pulled a gun out and started shooting. Me and others jumped up and ran towards the street but I stopped because there was massive gunfire raining down from the window. I sat back down at a bench and the dream ended. This really disturbed me cause I'm not into war and shooting crying
Sorry this is so long but now that I've started it feels nice to let it out.
The next thing started with hauntings in my area. My class took a field trip to Fort Ontario (It's in CNY. I live around there.This was when I was in 6th grade) Everything was fine when we started in the Jewish refugee museum (this was the same year just after the afore said dream, we were learning about it in school.) We got inside the fort and toured all of the buildings and were taken on top of the walls, which are grass covered. Now I'm telling you this now, this was before I was interested in the paranormal at all. When you go on top of the walls you can go through a door inside the walls themselves. I walked down into it with three of my friends. We got down in and I got this really strange feeling that I've only had a few times after that. I felt like the air was way to thick and that my breathing was off. Also for your info it was June and a really warm day. I was freezing cold and told my friend Lille that I needed to leave that instant. I wouldn't have gone back down that day if you had paid me.
Then came Jr high, 8th grade year. I was a complete slacker(and still am), but managed to make advanced science and math classes. The next experience began in the science room but has spread from there. I sat in the very back of the class, no one behind me, no one very close next to me. We were taking notes and the room was dark. Again, I had slightly forgotten anything to do with the paranormal until then. FYI I absolutely HATE my hair touched, I even cringe when my dad touches it (I have long hair...). Out of nowhere I feel someone brush the back of my hair, so I look back, no ones there. It kept going on after that but in different places in the building. It even happened as I was eating lunch with my friends and they can vouch, no one was behind me or had thrown anything at me...
The next times I had the feelings I experienced at the fort was at my best friends house, where later that night my friend saw an apparition, I was looking at the file I was creating about the haunting I found out about their house (if you want me to post that file let me know). This wasn't the first time they had had this apparition of the same guy! I constantly have these feelings at my mom's house, but never my dad's which is way older and more mysterious than my mom's were I've lived for 14 years.
My most recent dream that goes was this was a year and a month ago today. It was completely black, which never happens in my dreams. The only visible thing was my pastor who was saying something softly which I at the time thought was 'It all ends December 6th'. That's all I could make out at the time before I woke up. Now to let you know cause it's kinda important later, I had a friend that passed away from a brain tumor a year from today ( I miss him a lot and I cried for three bells during school Wednesday). So the 6thcame, and I had tae kwon do testing that day, so I was a little worried. Nothing ended up happening that day. Almost a month went by before I realized what he had truly said in my dream. I was at youth group with my best friend who I had told right after the dream. I took them out of the room and told them, "I know what he meant now. It will end the 6th He didn't say the 6th. He had said the 26th. Zak's pain ended the 26th." We both were in tears when we figured it out. It still bothers me that I'd had this dream. I did end up telling his younger siblings the day of his memorial service, cause I felt it wasn't right if I didn't. My dad got wind and asked me why I hadn't said anything to an adult and I told him that it was because I didn't understand until a few days before. He also told me that next time I have a dream like that to tell someone. And thank God I haven't.
Today, I still have problems with the paranormal. I go into the shower fine and normal, but when I go to wash the shampoo out of my hair I find scratches on my chest. I don't scratch my chest, it doesn't itch there (lol). Just today though, something changed and I found that I had two random scratches on the palm of my hand. I mean come on, I cant do that. I finished rinsing off and went to take a closer look and they were freakin' gone.
I may be in highschool but I'm not a #%&@!*^ druggie, I've never even experimented with anything. I don't know what to feel, but what's new ( don't understand? check the forum about empaths). Maybe you guys can help me figure out WTH is going on.
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:46 pm
Hey
I can only offer some information from what little I've read and some of my own similar experiences. But I've had the feeling of being touched on the head or on the arm by something, but it doesn't feel like a normal person resting their hand on me; it feels like static electricity making my hairs stand up in the shape of a hand. Does it feel anything like that? Or like pressure against your skin or hair that makes it prickle?
For a while, I'd chalked it up to something neurological happening with me, or an external force, like EMFs, but I can't really be sure anymore. It hasn't happened to me for a while, then just the other day (Christmas Day, to be exact,) I was at my aunt's house and we were talking about my grandmother who had passed away a year and a half ago. When the conversation stopped, I was still thinking about her, and I felt a small hand on the back of my head, just resting there for a few seconds, then it was gone.
As for the bad feelings you got, there could be a possible explanation to that, but without fully understanding the structure of the building, it can't really be proven or not. It could be EMFs, although, if the building lacks electrical wiring, its a lot harder to explain.... I've also heard of another phenomena that makes people experience feelings in their stomach, nausea, uneasiness, and even hallucinations out of the corner of their eye, and its not EMFs; its a low frequency resonance that causes the body to experience much the same effect as a wine glass when hit with a perfect C.
Its called Infrasound: a sound wave that is lower in frequency than the human ear can detect. It runs between 0 and 20 Hertz. (Its been called "the Brown Frequency" in the past, because it was thought to be powerful enough to disrupt ones bowels, and potentially cause the victim to soil themselves; however, if you've ever seen Mythbusters, they disproved that it could do that, but it does in fact induce queasiness.) Usually, these frequencies are too weak to cause discomfort when they occur naturally, but when they resonate against walls and ceilings and get trapped in a room with thick walls, or that's free of furniture, (as often is the case with old buildings, castles, ruins, etc.) the frequency tends to augment and "pool" in the places where people tend to report the most paranormal activity- it registers strongest where the peaks and troughs overlap and disappears where the waves cancel each other out . Infrasound can also trigger a Fight/Flight response, as well. The frequency can be produced by machinery, say an old radiator, or a heater or fridge, oscillating in the next room; sometimes its the shape of the room itself. There are some documented cases of this happening with people attributing the feeling to the paranormal. If you're interested in hearing about them in detail (I know, this reply is getting long,) just let me know. This info came from my favorite source of scientific explanations for the paranormal: Spook, by Mary Roach.
I'm not writing this to disprove any of your experiences, but to offer some interesting explanations, if ever you were bothered by what you experienced. I tend to be a voracious explorer of things I don't understand. Though I may sound like one, I'm not a sceptic of what you experienced or anyone else for that matter. Like I've said, I've experienced a lot of what you have: premonitory dreams, (my grandfather granted me a visit shortly after his passing, in a dream where he said goodbye and boarded an airplane. My mom also had a dream from my grandmother after she passed, where she told my mom that she was going to a party where there's be dancing and So-and-so would be there. The people she described were all dead. In the dream, my mother couldn't see past their feet. Feet represent the underworld in dreams for a lot of people.) I've been touched, felt strange things in certain areas... and the feelings always felt like they weren't my own; that they didn't belong to me. Do you ever get that? Where the emotion you're picking up feels like its happening to you but you're not causing it to happen, like you might if it was a natural feeling? ...I don't know if that makes sense.
Anyway... rambling.
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:27 am
About the feeling , i guess I didnt decribe it the best. While I did have a weird feeling in my stomach , it was accompanied by this ginormous oppressive feeling that I'd never felt before . Rambling isn't a bad thing if it ends up helping smile
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:27 pm
I'm not sure if the oppressive feeling is associated with Infrasound or not. They haven't been discribed as such, but here's the symptoms as they are described by a Dortmund University nonlethal weapons expert named Jürgen Altmann: causing nausea, salivation, "extreme annoyance," rapid pulse, vibrating visual field (which for the victims described in my book, caused then to see grey figures with limbs in their peripheral vision,) "intolerable sensations in the chest," (This one seems the closest at describing what you might have experienced, if it was Infrasound) gagging, vomiting, bowel spasms, and "uncontrollable defecation." (again, the stuff with the bowels is more hearsay, and the Mythbusters have declared a myth. Although, reading this, it looks like the effects disturb different people in different ways sometimes or not at all to some.)
The fight or flight reaction that occurs from Infrasound causes a curtailing of the blood to the extremities, hence the chills. This would also mean an increase in heart rate, queasiness in the stomach (because the digestive organs shut down so the body can focus on fight or flight,) sweating, etc.
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:48 am
Update: Me and my friend stayed up last night to try and contact whatevers in my house. We did voice recordings on my cell and got a voice that isnt ours. On video we got the sounds of chains clanking that we didn't hear in real life. Maybe I'll post parts of the vid later...
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:24 am
That's awesome! The Irish-Scotsman shared some of his EVP stuff with us using some such free online program to upload it; If you have any questions about how to do that, you should ask him. smile
Btw, if you're at all bothered by the presence(s) in your house, I recommend "smudging" your house with sage. The best way to do this is to close all your windows, light a stick of sage and cover all four corners of each room with the smoke; maybe announce your wishes for the entity to leave in peace. Then open all the windows and let it and the smoke escape. I've done this a few times and I've found that 0 of the time, the room feels a lot better to be in. I've also found that if you've also got good spirits on your side in the house, they'll stick around unless you specifically ask them to leave.
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:08 pm
Yeah, I'm planning on it. At both my mum's and dads. I did that at my dads last night and I'm doing it again tonight, alone but i don't care it's not as bad as my mums house. I was home alone with my little bro over there and he was asleep and I was trying and I heard this huge crashing sound. I have a cat but he's to small to do that cause it sounded like my huge bookshelf fell but it didn't O.O
Whatever's here at my dads doesn't like it when I mention the original owner I think it was a slave or something when it was alive. I wasn't surprised that this house is haunted, It's 200 years old, and one of the first houses built in my city
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:53 pm
Well it figures, I cant really use the vid I have from last night (Me and my friend sound stupid plus it reveals our identities which can't happen). I will however upload the one I'm doing to night. One of my issues was my computer overheated just before we began so I didn't have my questions ready. rolleyes
I'll try to get the sound off my phone (I really don't know how...) cause it sounds like someone whispers 'I bet' or something like that after I said I wasn't scared of whatever it was. I was also stupid last night and didn't turn on the video camera until like 3 minutes in. And again with my stupidity, I wasn't on night vision.
Um if you can help me just pull the audio off the video instead of the video (We got nothing visual) itself that'd be great, I could just edit out certain parts then.
I'm not doing anything tonight, i have a rly bad feeling ....
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:56 pm
That's crazy! Well, I don't know much about capturing video without audio. I'd ask The Irish-Scotsman. I know how to do it with certain softwares, but I think there's a simpler way using some site or an online program (which is what Irish did.) I'll ask my boyfriend for advice on that, too. He's more tech savvy than me with capturing. It really shouldn't be too hard to separate your audio from video, its just which method to use.
One disclaimer though: There's no guarantee that whatever's at your dad's house will leave for good. If the spirit is really benevolent or tied to the house, or just strong willed for one reason or another, it might come back after a little while, or it might not leave at all. I'd just make sure to do an seriously thorough job. Remind the guy that he's dead and he shouldn't stick around here, and by all means, bring a friend or two with you into the house to do it.
Right now, the moon is waning- drawing energy away from land, so if you're trying to get rid of something, some time between now and the next two weeks would be the ideal time. From a spiritualist's stand point it makes sense, but also thinking scientifically, if spirits draw energy from charged particles (as most ghost hunters believe) then the tide being pulled out might work to your advantage.
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:01 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:37 pm
Sadly tonight I was going to try to do some vid, and then my mum came home, with her bf's middle two. Foiled again XD
Mum would kill me if i smudged her house. She wont even let me have light incense or even really wear body spray so I'm gonna find another way to get rid of them at my mums. As for my dad he's a non-believer (SHUN TH NON BELIEVER SHUN!) and wouldn't like it if I did (even though I light heavy incense at his place). Ah what a lose-lose situation... ninja dramallama
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:15 am
Sounds like you're sensitive, though there could be natural explanations.
Try meditation and dream recall practice. Keep a notepad by your bed and right when you wake up write your dreams down before you forget them. Gradually start trying to become aware of your dreams and try to influence them more. You should start being able to control them. It helps for scary dreams. I only have a few dreams now where I'm not aware I'm dreaming, the rest I can change the subject or call someone or something in to protect me.
The feeling in your stomach could have just been a feeling of anxiety. Sometimes it feels like a stomach ache, a pressure, butterflies and so on. Some people even feel like they're going to throw up or just got hit. Like Dogstongue said though it could have been brought on by environment. People can feel sick, or the need to get out of the area because of the intense feelings.
As for the scratches, make sure to check your bed for anything that could make marks on you. Some tags on pillows or blankets are coarse enough to do it. Also make sure it isn't just an indent in your skin from fabric and check your nails.
I don't see why your family would be against the sage thing, it doesn't hurt anything and if the smell bothers them they could just spray some air freshener. Maybe sit down and talk to them, tell them it's important to you and you'd just feel better if they at least gave it a shot. Oh well. You could always try just politely, yet firmly telling any spirits or whatever to stop bothering you.
I've had a lot of the same types of experiences. Horrible dreams for no reason, random scratches in impossible places (and my nails are short because I bite them), strange feelings, though I've had full on sightings and I have extreme deja vu where I get it all the time.
You should still try to do evp sessions, ask for names and details and be polite. Say please and thank you just in case you do get answers. If you feel like something is pulling your hair, clothes or touching you and so on try asking it to stop or leave the area if you can. And totally post any evp results here if you have any. 3nodding
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Radioactive Injection Crew
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:00 pm
My rents wouldn't change their minds even if I talked to them sweatdrop
Dreams: I can influence some of them but not all. I generally remember them and could make a whole list of at least three dreams a year for the past almost 5 years (although I cant seem to remember most of my schooling from over that period of time xd ) But i will start writing them down...
Scratches don't come from my bed and I usually shower at night ( when I get the scratches) And even at that idk what could have caused marks on the palm of my hand for only a minute (I've also tried replicating them it didn't work)
As for EVPs I do in fact have some (on my cell and new cam 'corder) But Idk how to upload them from my cell... The vid I would put on my youtube, but I realized that a) we did a really poor job on it, my friend and I 2) It gives away my friend identity which is the last thing I want to do...
I can however tell you exactly what we found
1) On my cell, I said something to the degree of 'you don't scare me' and theres a click and then a whisper. My friend thinks it said 'I bet'.
2) During the vid, we captured no viewable evidence. But right after filming, we listened to it and randomly throughout it you can hear chains move (I had no jewelry on, my friend had some really small chains on a necklace and a ring/bracelet but they were to small to make those noises...
So I'm planning to do some more vid when I have the chance (maybe tonight seeing how I'll be up late anyways (work tonight)
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:17 pm
I agree with Radioactive with keeping a dream journal. I used to do this often, and it really helped me remember my dreams and hold power over them. It also helped me better interpret my mental, physical and emotional state. I know now that when I dream about my teeth falling out, I need to keep a close eye on my health because I might be getting sick. If I dream about water, I'm reflecting on my emotional health, etc. There are websites and forums dedicated to dream interpretation and discussion, if you think it might help. (Heck, there's probably one here on Gaia.)
As for the smudging: Sometimes its easier to ask for forgiveness instead of permission. While I should be saying "obey your parents' wishes," sometimes you just need to do it for your own sake. Really. What would suck more? feeling uncomfortable in your own home for years because of one entity that won't go away (and could potentially be harmful) or having a couple minutes of verbal punishment from your mom?
Personally, I love the smell of sage, although it is a bit musky like B.O. it just makes you feel a lot better after you do it, so maybe I just associate it with a feeling of being safe.
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:16 pm
Sadly mums the type who wouldn't submit to that even if i begged her crying. I have a theory about why my houses are haunted. My dad's was one of the first built in my city and not to much is known about it. My mum's is built next to an old arms factory that is now on old timers home. My whole city is pretty haunted. One of my best friends is having issues with ghosts worse then me, beds being shaken and apparitions, one of which I was present for but didn't look up fast enough to see. My friend is not on drugs and wouldn't lie about something like that to me. The jr. high has issues too, toilets flush by themselves (maybe bad plumbing, we dont really know) and you can hear children in the halls but no one is out there. ( I've probably already said this)
The worst case one of my friend who I don't see often or live close to has reported to me that she has a friend who's house a randomly burnt down almost ten times, before and after her friend lived there, with strange explanations as to why it burnt down, such as a teddy bear catching on fire because of a lamp, but the lamp was on the other side of the room. Something in my head says pyrokinetic poltergeist...
Oh and the other thing that would make me a target above the rest of my family is my emotional state, which is never very stable because of family issues.
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