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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:49 am
I didn't see any posts addressing this but I wanted to get all of your thoughts on it from a religious angle. What do you think happened, what went wrong, what impact will this have on Americans who are Muslim and what will it do to our international ties? For those of you who are unfamiliar with the situation, Fort Hood was attacked about a week ago by Maj Nidal Malik Hasan (US Army). He shot and killed 13 people and injured almost three times as many. There's now this huge uproar over the nature of the killings and the possible religious motivations (on the outside it looks like a terrorist attack by a man who may have been connected with Al Qaeda although other theories attribute the shootings to psychological issues.) More info here.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:57 am
I live near Fort Hood. As far as I can tell, he didn't want to go fight people in a religious war against those of the same beliefs. He may have gone about it the wrong way, but he shouldn't have been forced to go to Afghanistan anyway. But it was most likely psychological problems.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:02 am
.... EXCUSE me. stare i was fortunate enough to get DIRECT firshand info on this matter, and it is NOT in AN way a religious matte. furthermore, your poll options are extremely limiting and not a single option exists for any opinion (or actual KNOWLEDGE) that isn't religiously minded.
it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking.
and i know who the officer responcible for making it worse is.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:09 am
But he was a muslim being forced to go kill other muslims. Would you go out and kill a bunch of (enter your religion here.) for no other reason than to win a religious war that your fighting on the opposite side of your own religion? I certainly wouldn't, no matter what I would have to do to get out of it. So religion HAD to be at least a part of it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:11 am
Chieftain Twilight .... EXCUSE me. stare i was fortunate enough to get DIRECT firshand info on this matter, and it is NOT in AN way a religious matte. furthermore, your poll options are extremely limiting and not a single option exists for any opinion (or actual KNOWLEDGE) that isn't religiously minded. it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. and i know who the officer responcible for making it worse is. In my post I specifically said that I would like to examine it from a religious angle and the second option would have fit you. If religion plays no part in it than fine, that's what the second option was for.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:24 am
Semiremis Chieftain Twilight .... EXCUSE me. stare i was fortunate enough to get DIRECT firshand info on this matter, and it is NOT in AN way a religious matte. furthermore, your poll options are extremely limiting and not a single option exists for any opinion (or actual KNOWLEDGE) that isn't religiously minded. it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. and i know who the officer responcible for making it worse is. In my post I specifically said that I would like to examine it from a religious angle and the second option would have fit you. If religion plays no part in it than fine, that's what the second option was for. no it doesn't. your second option implies that because i don't have a religious opinion, that i can't possibly be certain of what i think about it yet. i mad eit clear that i believe i know exactly what it is. and while i can understand you wanting to discuss it from a religious standpoint, i still state my belief that this matter has NOTHING to do with religion. that isall i wanted to state, and i hope it is taken into accont throughout this threat. i have no intentions of derailing the topic, you may continue. just putting in my argument.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:27 am
Broken_Penguin_Man But he was a muslim being forced to go kill other muslims. Would you go out and kill a bunch of (enter your religion here.) for no other reason than to win a religious war that your fighting on the opposite side of your own religion? I certainly wouldn't, no matter what I would have to do to get out of it. So religion HAD to be at least a part of it. quick thing to note dude. the war isn't against Islam. it's against what the American government is labling terrorists. and they are labling people terrorists that they can get some kind of monetary benefit from, as well as greater control of the population of the world.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:27 am
Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:30 am
Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations. he doesn't hav eto be out doing the fighting dear. his job was screaning soldiers for signs of depression and PTSD. just by seeing the effect war has on these men and women is enough to traumatize him. think i'm making it up? i go through the same s**t and more!
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:45 pm
Chieftain Twilight Broken_Penguin_Man But he was a muslim being forced to go kill other muslims. Would you go out and kill a bunch of (enter your religion here.) for no other reason than to win a religious war that your fighting on the opposite side of your own religion? I certainly wouldn't, no matter what I would have to do to get out of it. So religion HAD to be at least a part of it. quick thing to note dude. the war isn't against Islam. it's against what the American government is labling terrorists. and they are labling people terrorists that they can get some kind of monetary benefit from, as well as greater control of the population of the world. That doesn't change the fact that he was a muslim being forced to go shoot other muslims. And really, it is a religious war, the same one we've had for thousands of years... and, really, it is against Islam, and the beliefs of the extremists. We are wanting to eradicate these beliefs so America will be safe. So, we are trying to eradicate a belief. That is a religious war.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:47 pm
Chieftain Twilight Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations. he doesn't hav eto be out doing the fighting dear. his job was screaning soldiers for signs of depression and PTSD. just by seeing the effect war has on these men and women is enough to traumatize him. think i'm making it up? i go through the same s**t and more! I don't see you on the news for shooting a bunch of soldiers... Are you a psychiatrist or something? Because if your not, then you shouldn't know this much about psychology.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:49 pm
Broken_Penguin_Man Chieftain Twilight Broken_Penguin_Man But he was a muslim being forced to go kill other muslims. Would you go out and kill a bunch of (enter your religion here.) for no other reason than to win a religious war that your fighting on the opposite side of your own religion? I certainly wouldn't, no matter what I would have to do to get out of it. So religion HAD to be at least a part of it. quick thing to note dude. the war isn't against Islam. it's against what the American government is labling terrorists. and they are labling people terrorists that they can get some kind of monetary benefit from, as well as greater control of the population of the world. That doesn't change the fact that he was a muslim being forced to go shoot other muslims. And really, it is a religious war, the same one we've had for thousands of years... and, really, it is against Islam, and the beliefs of the extremists. We are wanting to eradicate these beliefs so America will be safe. So, we are trying to eradicate a belief. That is a religious war. no. for crying out loud, do your ******** research, the war is not against Islam, no matter what the Media is trying to say. it's about money and control. not who's God is the preffered one. the government worships money, and pray to the Federal Reserve. stare
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:52 pm
Broken_Penguin_Man Chieftain Twilight Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations. he doesn't hav eto be out doing the fighting dear. his job was screaning soldiers for signs of depression and PTSD. just by seeing the effect war has on these men and women is enough to traumatize him. think i'm making it up? i go through the same s**t and more! I don't see you on the news for shooting a bunch of soldiers... Are you a psychiatrist or something? Because if your not, then you shouldn't know this much about psychology. :rolls eyes.: because obviously i can't have the appropriate training and knowledge without my job description SPECIFICALLY being called that. no, i am not technically a Psychiatrist, but my job description DOES include these kinds of psychiatric evaluations. i'm a Spiritual Councilor among other things. and i got this info on the shooter directly from my mistress who's husband is in the squad that was fired at. i AM trained to know these things. and furthermore, the News is lieing to yuo. they always do.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:05 pm
Chieftain Twilight Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations. he doesn't hav eto be out doing the fighting dear. his job was screaning soldiers for signs of depression and PTSD. just by seeing the effect war has on these men and women is enough to traumatize him. think i'm making it up? i go through the same s**t and more! So are you saying he had pre traumatic stress disorder? Apparently that's a new disoder ever since fort hood.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:08 pm
Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight Shadows-shine Chieftain Twilight . it's a little something called Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. it is a mental disorder caused by extreme Trauma, and oftetime sided by severe Depression and/or Anxiety. his outburst could have been for a myriad of reasons, but my logical guess (and my intuitive feeling) is that he became disgusted with all the Trauma and Stress and Depression that he saw coming from the life of a soldier (because ironically, he was the guy screaning the soldiers for potentially doing what he did) and decided to do what he thought was proper. th eproblem being, that that was a hysterical outburst, and he wasn't thinking. How could he have had post traumatic stress disorder, when he never had been sent out to fight in a battle his entire military career? I think that his actions are way more than just an outburst, according to reports he was trying to get in contact with terrorist groups, hewas also sending money over to those terrorist organizations. he doesn't hav eto be out doing the fighting dear. his job was screaning soldiers for signs of depression and PTSD. just by seeing the effect war has on these men and women is enough to traumatize him. think i'm making it up? i go through the same s**t and more! So are you saying he had pre traumatic stress disorder? Apparently that's a new disoder ever since fort hood. no. you are not understanding. i am saying he had PTSD. you don't have to be in war to get it, and you don't have to on the front line sto get it. you can get it from ANY traumatic experiences. i am pretty damn close to it myself, and i think that he got it by experiencing what he did: hearing the unbelievable and horrifying stories and seeing the gruesome battlescars and actions/behaviors of the soldiers he screaned.
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