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Well, I guess after the game... unless you guys would rather do it during or something. *shrugs*

If afterwards, then I don't mind. I've been messing around with an idea in my head that the Black Moon appears over the heart of the Dark Rift. Strange ships of an unusual design have been appeared from the different sections of the Dark Rift all around the world (which is amazing considering the rough conditions that would tear other ships apart).

Essentially, the Black Civilization vanished long before the Rains of Destruction, as did their continent and their moon. Their return could be due in part to the deaths of just about all of the last remaining Silvites (who they were often at odds with before).

I'm thinking that since they've been in darkness for so long, that they no longer resemble humans or they are humanlike with several differences. Their ships utilize the power of Black MoonStones (Haven't fully thought out its powers, but the game mentions they change positive energy to negative and negative energy to positive, which could be quite destructive if harnessed correctly now that I think about it), and they have a considerably sized fleet that reside all throughout the dark rift.

As to the actual shapes of the Black Civilization themselves... I'm not too sure just yet. I keep picturing something like the Mursaat in my mind (probably due to the black wings) [ http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:MursaatMesmer.jpg ].

Also, the Purple Civilization vanished after the Rains of Destruction. Maybe they still reside somewhere...

No... The lands of the Black Moon vanished and were consumed by the Dark Rift, which none could enter, not even the Purple Civilization. Also, the Southern Cross didn't point directly at the Dark Rift, so their civilization moved somewhere else.

I've been in physics, and judging from what I learned, that isn't quite what it is... Also, the Silvites were able to make Fina and Ramirez's ship, so there's a method other than Black Moon Stones.

It'd be better if they didn't come from the Black Moon. Be much better if it was from the Dark Rift, especially from a strategical standpoint. The Dark Rift covers a good sized area, and if their ships are the only ones that can traverse it, they have the advantage with all the places they can strike from.

The cloaking thing? Nah... I don't think so. I'm pondering if the Black Moon was smaller than the others, about the size of the heart of the Dark Rift... Perhaps its falling is what tore apart the lands of the Black Civilization and gave birth to the Dark Rift with its powerful energies.

I don't recall if they ever took the Crystals out of Soltis or not. They're probably actually buried with the continent in Deep Sky.

((An important note: I play a lot of strategy games, so I have a lot of tactical thinking. Also, I don't want them actually going to the Black Moon due to the fact Black Moon stones are needed, and those are only within the Dark Rift. Only one ship is capable of entering there. Better not to bother with that just yet. Granted, I am a writer thinking about this from a good standpoint. Plus it'd make some sense if the Black Moon fell to explain the origin of the Dark Rift))

Heh. I was pretty sure about that. I haven't played that part in several years, and I still remember the crystals went down.

The Southern Cross was pointing in the direction that it is said that the Purple Civilization fled to. Another thing that crossed my mind is this: The Purple Civilization is advanced but also has great expertise and control over ice. What if they were able to create a type of cryogenic stasis at wherever they fled to, ready to awaken again after so many years?

Well, there are several small Black Moon Stones. They could be the remainder of the moon, with the Black Moon Crystal being the actual core deep within it. All of the strange land masses spread throughout the rift could be the actual remains of the land of the Black Civilization.

Yeah, I recall the Black Looper. Kicked my butt in the Dreamcast version. Also, if you go to the core of the Dark Rift, you come to that one large area with the Black Moon Stones and the strange energy pulsating out from the bottom of the area. It makes you think: what could be down there? The Black Civilization could also have ships capable of withstanding Deep Sky, since they can travel throughout the rift. The Delphinus could enter Deep Sky but not the parts of the Dark Rift. If the Black Civilization can traverse the Dark Rift, imagine how strong their ships would be. They could easily enter Deep Sky. Although I'm not quite certain what interest they would have in the Moon Crystals.

That's too sci-fi style. That's why I never brought up something like that. I'm trying to keep true to the genre of game (I've been in too many RPs where they've ruined it, especially for ObsCure.)

It'd be better if they weren't some weird spacial rifts. The Black Civilization have been in that Dark Rift for a long time and have had their body changed because of it. Having that they endured the Dark Rift instead of just living in a different dimension really allows for the idea of them persevering against the odds and becoming something stronger because of it, a stronger creature that doesn't always look completely human. They aren't passing through the Dark Rift to their home, but they live inside of it with its powerful pressure and winds. This would make them stronger than most others due to being able to survive inside of such harsh conditions.

Yup. So it'd be better for them to actually live in the rift, since they would have to endure all that for a longer time.

I had actually thought of the whole stasis thing BEFORE I found that discovery, to be honest.

Well, I'll probably go exploring in the direction that Southern Cross points to sometime in the future, but not anytime soon. I'm on the Hydra, and I've been playing a lot of Guild Wars recently... Or we could have a new continent within Lower Sky...

It's not. I recall checking to see, and it's pointing just a bit to the left of the Vortex. I'm pretty much positive that it is.

Hm... What else we need to work out? We don't need to have every little detail planned to start it, just mainly the basics.

Think Ixa'Taka should get in on that too??