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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:03 pm
So these days, everyone feels like they have to be pretty like the people in magazines and all over TV. you MUST be skinny, you MUST have flawless skin, and you must NEVER have a single flyaway piece of hair. Guys learn at a young age that this is what they must think is beautiful. and then the guys MUST have the right amount of muscles and MUST be "manscaped". Girls try to fit their standards to attract those guys to make them seem better and guys do the same. Yet fewer and fewer people are able to meet these standards and thus eating disorders and depression arise (This is the lazy, miserable generation.). life is sooo easy now. you click a button and turn on something one foot away. you don't need to move to do much of anything. by making our lives to easy, we can't fit the standards set. So now stores have plus sized clothes that are fitted for normal sized people that are average weight in order for people to not feel bad about their inability to fit societies beauty standards. But I think that makes it worse because healthy girls think "WTF I'm a PLUS SIZE?!" it's a vicious twisting cycle.
but then if you think of it, way back when in a different era of style, this was totally different. people would pad their clothes to make them seem chubby because that meant you were wealthy and well fed. and the brightness and puffyness of your clothes meant a lot too. This was their standard of beauty. before golden tans, some women would try to look extremely pale and would emphasize the veins in their wrists because it reflected innocence. also long ago.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. unfortunately, most eyes have been tainted and no one really has their OWN definition. some do though.
opinions? ideas of beauty? anyone? be heard!
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:54 am
back in the days of kings and queens and serfs, to be tan meant that you worked out doors and thusly showed your status as a serf. to be pale meant you were well off and pampered. that is why to be pale was seen to be beautiful. the same goes for being slightly chubby.. it meant you ate well and thus you were materially well off. serfs and pessants were generally under nourished and skinny. in asian societies (mainly china and I think maybe japan, not sure) they would put pale makeup on their face (even white..) as it was a beauty standard (might be still true today, again, not sure). I'm not sure why they found that beautiful (looked more like clowns to me honestly.. the white makeup) I just know it's a cultural thing.
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:28 pm
I can't believe how many people hate their appearance. I seriously don't have a problem with the way I look. Sure I have my crap days, but who doesn't? There are people that go to extremes (like you said, eating disorders and such) to look 'perfect'. Well, I don't believe there is a perfect way to look. As long as you look like yourself, and you wear confidence like make-up, you're sure to attract the right kind of person for you. If you try to act like somebody your not just to impress the most amount of people as possible, you're not going to get anywhere you want to be. That's my opinion.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:54 pm
I never did get it, watching girls make themselves were make-up and get into cloths that make them look even ugly then before. The idea of fashion, or even the price to keep up a image.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:32 pm
xKuro Tsutax I can't believe how many people hate their appearance. I seriously don't have a problem with the way I look. Sure I have my crap days, but who doesn't? There are people that go to extremes (like you said, eating disorders and such) to look 'perfect'. Well, I don't believe there is a perfect way to look. As long as you look like yourself, and you wear confidence like make-up, you're sure to attract the right kind of person for you. If you try to act like somebody your not just to impress the most amount of people as possible, you're not going to get anywhere you want to be. That's my opinion. indeed. there's even further extremes though. I read an article in a magazine about a girl who would get up hours before school to make sure she looked absolutely flawless, had a breakdown and begged her mom to let her stay ome because ONE zit, HAD to stay a certain weight and she monitored it like a hawk. one pound off and she'd have fit. then she got lyme disease and didn't want to admit being sick..she got to the point where she couldn't get out of bed to get all gussied up. then she realized how stupid she had ben and accepted that everyone is perfectly imperfect.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:35 pm
lilraine back in the days of kings and queens and serfs, to be tan meant that you worked out doors and thusly showed your status as a serf. to be pale meant you were well off and pampered. that is why to be pale was seen to be beautiful. the same goes for being slightly chubby.. it meant you ate well and thus you were materially well off. serfs and pessants were generally under nourished and skinny. in asian societies (mainly china and I think maybe japan, not sure) they would put pale makeup on their face (even white..) as it was a beauty standard (might be still true today, again, not sure). I'm not sure why they found that beautiful (looked more like clowns to me honestly.. the white makeup) I just know it's a cultural thing. beauty IS a cultural thing. you're right. some cultures think having a huge disc gauge in your lip is beautiful. some think tribal tattoos are beautiful. and all the stuff you just said too. and also like you said, other cultures think it's ugly. but I think places like the states and Europe and all the more "sophisticated" places worry to much about fashion....and some of it sure is an eyesore in my opinion
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:28 pm
I dislike commercialism altogether. I cant stand seeing ads and commercials that are trying to tell me I cant live without their product. but it works, it sells items including fashion because people buy into it. they actually start thinking they cant live without this product.. or materialism as a competition.. feeling like you have to keep up with your neighbors.. whatever they have, you have to have. it's rather sickening.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:53 pm
i'm personally into the whole fashion thing. i buy ridiculously priced clothes and handbags because i like them, not because they make me look "beautiful." i'm completely against the way people advertise these clothes though. super skinny models on tv just scare me, honestly. i'm completely comfortable with myself. i dont need to wear a ton of make up or fit into a size 00. i'm extremely happy with my eyeliner, mascara, lipgloss, and size 5 jeans. and hella uncool, i agree with what you said, about the guys thinking that super skinny and alot of make-up is "beautiful" but atleast you know that if your boyfriend tells you you're "beautiful" you can tell whether he is a superficial jerk, or a really nice guy. [(that makes it alot easier on me ;] )]
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:39 am
MiStiEM00K i'm personally into the whole fashion thing. i buy ridiculously priced clothes and handbags because i like them, not because they make me look "beautiful." i'm completely against the way people advertise these clothes though. super skinny models on tv just scare me, honestly. i'm completely comfortable with myself. i dont need to wear a ton of make up or fit into a size 00. i'm extremely happy with my eyeliner, mascara, lipgloss, and size 5 jeans. and hella uncool, i agree with what you said, about the guys thinking that super skinny and alot of make-up is "beautiful" but atleast you know that if your boyfriend tells you you're "beautiful" you can tell whether he is a superficial jerk, or a really nice guy. [(that makes it alot easier on me ;] )] indeed 4laugh
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:21 pm
I know I may be brainwashed or whatever but I'm fine with the standered of beauty I wouldn't change it.
In fact yeah I probebly am brainwashed of what the standered of beauty is but you know what do you want. It's like language it's somthing your braught up on when your little and get used to it as the standered. Also our standered of beauty is trampy and hot so there xd heart
heart heart boobies! heart heart 4laugh
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:18 pm
i totally agree with u (first girl) too much emphasis is placed on our appearances...expensive clothes and shiny things don't make you a better person. i think this new generation of hair bleeching, slim crazed individuals is just the consequence of the shallow media's backward perceptions of beauty. i think people should stop listening to the media and think for themselves because they constantly contradict themselves...one minute they say to be beautiful you must be a size zero and then when some crazy person actually reduced themselves to that size they criticize her saying she has a serious issue. no-one's perfect but everyone can be beautiful in there own way you just need to accept the way you look and find the "look" that works for you.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:19 am
MiStiEM00K i'm personally into the whole fashion thing. i buy ridiculously priced clothes and handbags because i like them, not because they make me look "beautiful." i'm completely against the way people advertise these clothes though. super skinny models on tv just scare me, honestly. i'm completely comfortable with myself. i dont need to wear a ton of make up or fit into a size 00. i'm extremely happy with my eyeliner, mascara, lipgloss, and size 5 jeans. and hella uncool, i agree with what you said, about the guys thinking that super skinny and alot of make-up is "beautiful" but atleast you know that if your boyfriend tells you you're "beautiful" you can tell whether he is a superficial jerk, or a really nice guy. [(that makes it alot easier on me ;] )] well, I was really referring to people who HAVE to have whatever is "in" during the current year and HAS to be brand name. I like to look nice when I dress too. I'm primarily a jeans and top kinda gal, and I dont care what the brand name of the jeans are. if I like how they look on me, and they're not outrageously priced I will buy and wear it. but it's not according to fashion trends. if what I like was "in" 5 years ago, then so be it. beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but too many people place too much importance on what the beholder thinks if it's someone other than themselves. women dress the way they do, on a biological level, to attract mates. for young girls to dress as tho they were adolescents or full fledged grown ups, makes them feel grown up and able to attract a mate. our standards of beauty as females, are according to what the general population of males think is beautiful. you dont see beer commercials with big fat women in them... no, they are slender or anorexic, blonde hair, and big boobs. so that's what many or even most young women will attempt to be. they may not think about WHY they find this look as beautiful, but subconsciously, that's what it is. in other species, it's the male that is striking in looks, color, to attract the female. in us, it's the opposite.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:59 pm
The physical appearance of our bodies is merely a coating for our true spirit, it becomes tainted dirty sullied but underneath you're fundamentally the same individual unless you get sucked into the 'Have-to-have' group where you believe thin is beautiful or sexy attractive etc personally I fail to see how the current trends are likeable or even allowable, skirts that show more than if you just wore a belt or piece of rope around your waist, shirts that are transparent etc, mounds of makeup are necessary for beauty and only certain colors are good. I disagree with standards of beauty no matter what they are unless they're individual standards not influenced by masses,name brands, or the newest celebrity's choices but I think I'm off-topic so I'll shush myself sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:28 am
Nerevar Fatehand The physical appearance of our bodies is merely a coating for our true spirit, it becomes tainted dirty sullied but underneath you're fundamentally the same individual unless you get sucked into the 'Have-to-have' group where you believe thin is beautiful or sexy attractive etc personally I fail to see how the current trends are likeable or even allowable, skirts that show more than if you just wore a belt or piece of rope around your waist, shirts that are transparent etc, mounds of makeup are necessary for beauty and only certain colors are good. I disagree with standards of beauty no matter what they are unless they're individual standards not influenced by masses,name brands, or the newest celebrity's choices but I think I'm off-topic so I'll shush myself sweatdrop I think if more men thought as you do, things would be different. there are too many superficial people in the world. people who place more importance on the outside than the inside. you werent off topic at all. smile
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:04 pm
OK I am of a popular opinion that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that other stuff but about the acne i read somewhere(and know from personal experience)that acne is often caused by stress, which is probably why most humans are so turned off by it. I mean, I dont want to hang out with someone really, really stressed all the time and stuff like that. Most people would prefer to hang out with someone calm and in control of their life thean someone stressed. Thats how it is for me. even if people dont know that, they can probably sense the stress and subconciously pin it on the acne cuz havent you ever noticed the zit that always pops up just before an important even when its least wanted?
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