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 Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:18 am
Is it supernatural? Is it perfectly natural?　Can it be a little of both?
Discuss!
I myself, though I have gone over a little study of hypnotism (also related to Mesmerism or Animal Magnitism). I am far from learned on the subject, though, and would like to know other people's thoughts on it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:03 pm
Well.. I think hypnotizm can be both supernatural and natural..
it's going into a state of unconcious awareness where your subconcious is in control and not your normal concious and Ego 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:12 pm
From what I've read and heard about it (I had a history teacher who was working to be certified as a professional hypnotist in my state), the process seems to be of the pysical, mental persuasion. It's not meant to be something that you can use to forcibly take over someone's mind and control them like a puppet. Most of the time, the person has to be willing to be hypnotised, correct?
There are probably ways to tap into a the spiritual parts of a person using hypnosis though... it's not like I'm experianced with it xD;. I can't say too much about it.
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:33 pm
That's a hard one. I guess it depends on how you hypnotize someone.
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:39 am
Well, I believe that most 'powers' or psychic abilities are in your subconscious mind, and a few people are blessed enough to discover how to control these abilities with their concsious minds. So, hypnotism is shutting your conscious mind off, and bringing your subconsious to the forefront, right? Doesn't it stand to reason then, (by my line of thought anyways xp ) that hypnotism and some psychic abilities could have a definite connection? Wouldn't it be possible to trigger some hidden ability with deep hypnotism? Like how they can sometimes retrieve repressed memories?
I hope this counts as on topic, but I would love to learn the 'how' does anyone have hypnotism techniques?
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:35 pm
I do not think it is supernatural in the least. Weird, definitely, supernatural, no. All it does is put the person in a deep state of relaxation so that the only muscle that is fully functioning is the brain, thus you are able to concentrate on anything with little effort at all. The act of putting them in that state is merely giving them the false image of a very relaxing thing or place that they project in their minds. It's quite simple, yet people make it out to be complicated. Also, it cannot conflict with what the hypnotized person believes, which means that people who don't believe in it can't be hypnotized. It's not supernatural if it has natural limits.
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:58 pm
Necretian I do not think it is supernatural in the least. Weird, definitely, supernatural, no. All it does is put the person in a deep state of relaxation so that the only muscle that is fully functioning is the brain, thus you are able to concentrate on anything with little effort at all. The act of putting them in that state is merely giving them the false image of a very relaxing thing or place that they project in their minds. It's quite simple, yet people make it out to be complicated. Also, it cannot conflict with what the hypnotized person believes, which means that people who don't believe in it can't be hypnotized. It's not supernatural if it has natural limits.
I like your explaination and agree with it 97%.
(Don't ask how I cam up with that number.)
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:49 pm
its a natural process that is used as an extension or reinforcement of ones original intent.....it is not mind control.....hypnotism occurs when will is freely given.....i have done it several times to others.....i got several e-books by searching at Killerinfo.com (a cluster search engine) for "Hypnosis .pdf"
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:03 am
It's both. It definitely exists, but it think it also infringes on Glamors.
I got in trouble for 'hypnotizing' a guy in my ASL class. sweatdrop I didn't even notice he was watching my neckace.
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:25 pm
hahaha thats very funny opalin ......i used to in psychology class, with my very suggestible-to-hypnosis friend, hypnotize her on both purpose and accident.....she would take my suggestions to the max.....i could say in a normal way her arms are feeling light and are starting to rise......and they would..... xd
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:40 am
Mizu~roze That's a hard one. I guess it depends on how you hypnotize someone. theres more than one way?
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:18 pm
Opalin It's both. It definitely exists, but it think it also infringes on Glamors. I got in trouble for 'hypnotizing' a guy in my ASL class. sweatdrop I didn't even notice he was watching my neckace. No, it's enchantment. Glamor is enchantment, and so is mind control. Enchantment is the broader school of magic that influences the way a person sees a person, place, or thing, and how they react to said person, place, or thing.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:23 pm
Necretian I do not think it is supernatural in the least. Weird, definitely, supernatural, no. All it does is put the person in a deep state of relaxation so that the only muscle that is fully functioning is the brain, thus you are able to concentrate on anything with little effort at all. The act of putting them in that state is merely giving them the false image of a very relaxing thing or place that they project in their minds. It's quite simple, yet people make it out to be complicated. Also, it cannot conflict with what the hypnotized person believes, which means that people who don't believe in it can't be hypnotized. It's not supernatural if it has natural limits. It's not supernatural at all. And for the record, there are a great many things that people don't believe in that do exist, and that can affect them. People don't believe in ghosts, or fate, or god, or anything like that. But that does not mean that these said things do not affect them. It just means that person hasn't attributed them to a word, thus giving them form. A person who doesn't believe in hypnosis can, in fact, be hypnotized, if the person performing the hypnosis has a strong enough will.
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:27 pm
CyKa Well, I believe that most 'powers' or psychic abilities are in your subconscious mind, and a few people are blessed enough to discover how to control these abilities with their concsious minds. So, hypnotism is shutting your conscious mind off, and bringing your subconsious to the forefront, right? Doesn't it stand to reason then, (by my line of thought anyways xp ) that hypnotism and some psychic abilities could have a definite connection? Wouldn't it be possible to trigger some hidden ability with deep hypnotism? Like how they can sometimes retrieve repressed memories?
I hope this counts as on topic, but I would love to learn the 'how' does anyone have hypnotism techniques? They do. It's called the Mind. Psychic abilities (notably being able to move things with your mind, empathy, telepathy and the like) are all mental abilities. Seeing the future is considered a psychic ability because it occurs in the mind, but this is really attributed to being able to discern the flow of time, but has very little to do with the mind, except as images flowing into the mind.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:35 pm
I think it's a fuison of science and the paranormal, powerful psychics can persuade people to quit smoking or cutting, I think it's a similar princible.
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