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I firmly believe in Marx's ideas but i thnk socialism is what u should use to run a government.

To echo Tanasha on the tribal part. People also need to see that everybody is pulling their fair share of the work. When you don't know everybody, you don't have this gaurantee. And, when you see reports of people doing less than you, you feel less compelled to work as hard.

However, that model is highly flawed. It makes the assumption that all people are naturally altruistic - if that were so, where did selfishness come from?

In a system where everybody is equal, there will always be those who find ways to exploit others. This is the nature of humanity; Some exist to help others, some exist to help themselves, and most fall in between. It is because of this that people beyond a certain number need leaders, and it is because they need leaders that the system can't function.

This is also why a pure democracy won't work, even in this age of pervasive instant communication; most people never think things through - they listen like fat, stupid cows to whoever's talking, and then clutch to the speaker's words like a drowning man to a rotton log. Humanity has a fierce reactionary stance, and the majority has absolute control.

Some examples of times when a majority vote would have ******** us over, keeping in mind that people never vote when they don't care and it would take a majority vote to change whatever's in place:
Gays are not the best liked minority right now - the laws which would have been in place making sodomy a capital offense would have had no chance of being overturned.
Muslems were unpopular after 9/11/2001 - Instant rush to war on the middle east, without any time for a second thought, let alone planning!
Abortion was unpopular.
Interracial marriage was unpopular
Suspected communism could have been cause to revoke citizenship, and when 'commies' can't vote, what would the chances have been that being suspected of communist ties would have become a capital offense?
Rich people were very, VERY unpopular in the 1930s.
The end of slavery wasn't very popular.
Etc.

I would say I'm a very cynical person, except it's not what I believe to be true, it's what I know to be true.

odamobunga: The closest you will be able to get to your ideal is a state with a strong social welfare. This is probably not a good place to ask this question anyway - libertarians are one of the groups most likely to object to communism and facism, and do not represent the population as a whole. Try asking in a public forum for more a accurate gauge on the matter.

Well we don't really trust the goverment. But there is a lot of trust in self-governed buisness; where pollution must be controlled because it is economically benifical to keep a good standing with the public.

Question: Is NCS the guild run by Blitzkrieg?

Haha... Where was it that a i heard "Libertarianism Is the Marxism of the right"?

I wish you luck in your embassidor[ing].

My ideals are equivilate to "if only it worked in this scale", but i don't believe that pure state can ever be truely attained and kept, Nature Abhores a vaccum...and i believe there is far too strong a vaccum for power left in pure marxism.

Which is why, it would require people to not be so ignorant. Then again, that'll never happen, so I don't know why I bother.

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