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Nephilim Theory

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:31 am


Okay, in a revolt to PROVE that Jaden's deck stinks and he would've actually LOST most of his duels, I've found a few duels in which, jaden should have actually lost, for example:

the first duel with chazz, when Chazz just summoned his "Mefist the Infernal General", he could've attacked with him RIGHT THEN and won against Jaden. (and made jaden discard a card), and even if Jaden DID draw Monster Reborn, it wouldn't matter since E-Hero Flame Wingman states "This monster cannnot be Special Summoned Except by Fusion Summon".
So then he regenerates a DIFFERENT monster, and then Mefist runs over that monster with trample effect...

the next duel, where Jaden duels Allexis, Jaden summons "E-Hero Thunder Giant" with Fusion Gate... well, he used "monster reborn" to bring back the "E-Hero Sparkman" REMOVED FROM PLAY earlier!! You CAN'T reborn a REMOVED FROM PLAY monster!!! Therefore Jaden can't summon his Thunder Giant and he'd lose.
Wait, let's just say that he COULD by a stroke of cheating GET the Giant out, he doesn't have ANY cards to discard for Thunder Giant's effect... so he can't use it. Bleh, Jaden loses AGAIN.

the next duel when Jaden would actually lose is a certain school test where Jaden duels Chazz again. here, Chazz has his VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon out, when Jaden uses his "Winged Kuriboh"...
Well this was dumb of chazz for NOT doing this when he DID do it earlier, but REMOVE the Kuriboh dumb-a**!! Doing this, even by tributing the kuriboh for transcendant wings, the target's gone, so he selects again, the Lv10 monster and removes THAT sucker from play.
then Chazz attacks for 3000 pts and wins.

if any of you can find some more "miss-plays" in the show, please post them here!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:13 am


er... first off, you should cool down.

Secondly, you must remember that the cards and how they were used in the anime, were what the they were originally intended to be. But when they were changed to an OCG, they made them more balanced.

So, techincally there are never any misplays in the anime, since it came out before the cards did.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:05 pm


i watched that episode and sparkman was never removed from play ryo he was sent to the graveyard
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:19 pm


Inuyashaguard
i watched that episode and sparkman was never removed from play ryo he was sent to the graveyard
Hmm... maybe it was Clayman I was thinking of... rolleyes silly me. xp

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:43 pm


Well, hate to say this but. No cards in Jaden's and Alexis's duel were removed from play. Polymerization might've been but, he won with Fusion Gate which specifically states in the card writing, "Remove any Fusion Material Monsters from play and summon the Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck." At least I think that is what it says, who knows. And I think Chazz played a card that prevented him from VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon's effect. Who knows? Maybe we should investigate into this matter a little further.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:47 pm


I saw a commercial for the show today...Thats the best I can say.

I'm so out of the GX-loop e_e

Stuff about Millenium Keys...or something like that

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Apeiron King of Light

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:15 pm


Crono Leonhart
I saw a commercial for the show today...Thats the best I can say.

I'm so out of the GX-loop e_e

Stuff about Millenium Keys...or something like that

er...not even close sweatdrop

All you have to know is that there is a place that teaches people to duel. Judai (Jaden) is the main character... a group of 7 are trying to steal 3 powerful cards under the school... and their are such things as duel spirits.

Know that, and you should basically get about everything... you shouldn't wrap your mind around trivial nonsense like who they are, ect...

oh and japanese commericials for yugioh are 10x better ^^ (espically the ones for the cards...they don't have some 12 year old who can't act for [censored] try and copy what's on the show... they actually have the a REALLY cool cg clip... the english one just cuts the japanese one and sticks a 12 year old kid who can't act...)

Seriously, please check it out:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NYR3B-aLp9M&search=yugioh enemy of justice

I will cry the moment I see the english one (no matter how they edit it with 12 year old kids who can't act...it will never be the same... I swear I can just see the kid saying... "GET YOUR GAME ON!" and then shining phoenixguy just rushing in... oh and it will start off with the bells ringing... and the one kid will look evil or something...)

oh and if you want a refrence to that the english cuts up the japanese ones badly, here's one for elemental energy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9yWSunJHwR4&search=yugioh elemental energy

(so cool...and bad kid actor free ^^)
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:01 am


i agree with aperion
that is what the cards where supposed to be
until they + it makes the episodes more interesting

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:52 pm


ryobakura
Okay, in a revolt to PROVE that Jaden's deck stinks and he would've actually LOST most of his duels, I've found a few duels in which, jaden should have actually lost, for example:

the first duel with chazz, when Chazz just summoned his "Mefist the Infernal General", he could've attacked with him RIGHT THEN and won against Jaden. (and made jaden discard a card), and even if Jaden DID draw Monster Reborn, it wouldn't matter since E-Hero Flame Wingman states "This monster cannnot be Special Summoned Except by Fusion Summon".
So then he regenerates a DIFFERENT monster, and then Mefist runs over that monster with trample effect...

the next duel, where Jaden duels Allexis, Jaden summons "E-Hero Thunder Giant" with Fusion Gate... well, he used "monster reborn" to bring back the "E-Hero Sparkman" REMOVED FROM PLAY earlier!! You CAN'T reborn a REMOVED FROM PLAY monster!!! Therefore Jaden can't summon his Thunder Giant and he'd lose.
Wait, let's just say that he COULD by a stroke of cheating GET the Giant out, he doesn't have ANY cards to discard for Thunder Giant's effect... so he can't use it. Bleh, Jaden loses AGAIN.

the next duel when Jaden would actually lose is a certain school test where Jaden duels Chazz again. here, Chazz has his VWXYZ Dragon Catapult Cannon out, when Jaden uses his "Winged Kuriboh"...
Well this was dumb of chazz for NOT doing this when he DID do it earlier, but REMOVE the Kuriboh dumb-a**!! Doing this, even by tributing the kuriboh for transcendant wings, the target's gone, so he selects again, the Lv10 monster and removes THAT sucker from play.
then Chazz attacks for 3000 pts and wins.

if any of you can find some more "miss-plays" in the show, please post them here!

who cares, it's just a show. if you look at the first episodes of the regular yugioh series, they were playing monster reborn during their opponent's turn.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:21 pm


Well, the only point I'm trying to make is that people are giving WAY too much credit to Jaden's deck by thinking it's really good.
So I just thought I'd put down a post saying how he'd lose more often.
I'm sorry I couldn't recal the mistake too clearly in Alexis&Jaden's first duel. sweatdrop There was an error, though like many episodes.
Anyway, when you look at most of the episodes in the GX series, every time Jaden's in a tight spot he seriously draws the ONLY ((the ONLY)) card that can win him the duel.
Most of the time they have to make UP a card so he can win.
Simply put, E-Heroes are really not as good as believed, they are far over-estimated.
Plus there are WAY too many cards for the deck and it's just another Warrior copy deck. sweatdrop
Not too impresive.

That's my opinion. Please do not flame me for that. sweatdrop

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