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torm3

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:30 am


Hey everyone; I'm fairly new to Buddhism, I've been practicing it the best I can for the past few months now. I've never actually met another Buddhist person in person, and only talked to one online; who couldn't help me much with my problems..

You see; I can't decide which Discipline(Sect), to follow.. I've read some about a few of them, but I'm finding it very hard to decide which I would find best to follow. I was hoping someone could break it down a bit easier for me; such as, If you ___, ___, and ___, you might like ___ Sect better. I'm not sure if that's entirely possible, but any help on the subject would a lot of help!

Another thing I was wondering.. I'm trying to follow the Precepts, I give my best shot at meditating, which can be a bit difficult with my wondering mind... But, is there anything else I am missing? Something else to incorporate in my daily life? It could just be me being weird.. But I feel like I'm missing something, like I should be doing more.. trying harder.. I don't know.. I think it's because I feel very strongly about being a Buddhist, and want to jump in as deep as I can, and devote as much of my time, mind, and body as I can; allowing me to get as far into it as possible before I die 3nodding

If you have any incite on my issues, I'd be really happy if you could help me!! smile
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:36 pm


After a fashion, sects disappear anyway. But lemme try to help where I can with the few I know anything about. 3nodding

If you're more into heavy intellectualism, leaning towards a more monastic approach, and trying to stick as close to the original Buddhism as possible, try Theravada.

If you're more into compassion towards all things (which includes more emphasis on vegetarianism/vegan food than Theravada, though both often practice it), the lay follower's life with an emphasis on supporting the monastic community and the Bodhisattva vow (along with a slightly more supernatural bent), I suggest Mahayana.

If you really like sitting, walking and doing both while meditating constantly, and living in the now (which is a lot harder than it sounds), I suggest a branch of the Mahayana subset of Zen.

If you're into prayer and the concept of a heaven transition before enlightenment/leaving the rebirth cycle, Jodo might be worth a look. I don't know much about them, but that's what I do know.

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torm3

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:12 pm


I do like the idea of Original Buddhism.. Being that I do like the intellectual side of it..

I do like to practice the compassion towards all things ideals.. Though I'm not Vegetarian.. Although from what I've read, it was never said that Buddhists should necessarily be Vegetarian.. And that monks can eat meat so long as.. 1) they did not see the animal
2) they did not hear it's crys
3) the animal was not killed specifically for the monks

[[Although I could be wrong about all that.. Its just something I kind of remember razz .. Anyone else heard that?]]

I also really enjoy the idea of meditation, and often walk just for the fun of it. But I don't really want some "Now" version of Buddhism.. I find that.. somewhat cheap or watered down.. in my opinion.. Not to offend anyone who practices it.. I know it's good to practice it at all.. Its just how I feel. I'm the kind of person who would go live in a monastery if given the chance.

And as for the afterlife aspect of it.. I find it to be a really good idea, and would love for it to be true.. but for me, I always get plagued with the question of "How would anyone know what the afterlife is like.. if they have to die to see it?!" Even if someone is reincarnated.. I find it hard to believe they can clearly explain 6 heavens and 6 hells.. I don't know.. its just me.


So for me I guess I should look into.. Theravada? or Mahayana? Oh crap.. Another cross roads! And I know the Sects disappear eventually.. But I want a good foothold to start off with, you know? I could easily devote my entire life to Buddhism.. I don't know what it is.. but I feel so strongly about it... Just the thought of practicing it for the rest of my life brings a smile to my face smile

Sorry for rambling.. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:22 am


I'd start with Theravada, and if you decide the basis they provide isn't enough, branch into Mahayana. 3nodding That way, regardless of which way you go, you have a great grounding in the base of any sect - Theravada scripture is used as the base scripture of Buddhism as a whole, other sects and schools just add to it for clarification purposes.

And yes, you are right about the vegetarianism - in all cases. At least where Theravadan rules are concerned anyway. Many Mahayanans/Tibetans change that rule slightly, claiming vegetarianism is a must for compassion development. Special cases do apply though, such as the Dalai Lama himself - he's not one by virtue of medical dispensation. 3nodding

I'm not much for afterlife in Buddhism - the problem comes in with definitions, and this kind of thing often confuses people. Rebirth is not reincarnation. There is no soul in Buddhism, not a thing to reincarnate. Rebirth is more a karmatic string that, unresolved in this life, causes the rise of a new life that inherits the string. It's kind of like a candle. The first candle you light burns down to a nub, so you use the last sparks of flame to light a new candle. The flame is not the same, the candle is not the same, but a new light has come from an old one. 3nodding Hence, it wouldn't really be you in any case of afterlife - heaven, hell or back here again. biggrin

Anyhow, in order to get a good start on Theravadan basics, if that is where you want to go, I recommend starting in on the Tripitaka (Three Baskets) - http://www.accesstoinsight.org has a wonderful translation project going on, complete with annotations and dharma talks from advanced Buddhist teachers/students where they've been written. There's lots to read, but it's worth it. 3nodding

Edit: Oh! I just remembered where I got my start with sutras, and thought I should pass it on. Check Access to Insight or http://www.buddhanet.net for the Dhammapada! It's a collection of short verses that contain a lot of insight into practice. A fast read, but one I still refer back to constantly, even years later.

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torm3

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:02 pm


Thanks, your helping a lot 3nodding

And as for the rebirth/reincarnation thing.. Your saying the problem with it is the same as the problem with teleportation..
In teleportation; the entire body is broken down to its basics.. atoms.. or something, (I don't totally remember..) and is then shot across to the next place, where it reassembles.
The problem being, when your body is broken up as such, you die. And then you are put back together, but it is not you, but rather a person with the same exact thoughts and memories and everything down to the smallest detail.. but its not you.

So when you die, its not actually you who goes to the heaven.. and then its not that being that returns back here once more..

(I know I kinda just restated what you said.. just trying to understand razz )

Well.. that's a bit sad.. I always assumed there was nothing after death, but I always hoped there was something, just so I could keep going. : P

Guess its just a case of Wait n' See smile





Thanks for the links, I'll definitely look through them! And thanks again for all the help!
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:08 am


As far as I can tell, that's kinda it. But then again, I've not seen it first hand (that I can remember), so my opinion is based on teachings alone. 3nodding

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