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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:42 pm


vegito61283
Dude-LAP
This is very interesting. An entirely new football league. It will help some players develop, to possibly turn pro and go to the NFL. But it's weird, because a few of the coaches you mentioned are fit to have a top-level NFL coaching job.

The UFL will take a hit because of the economy, like the AFL and NFL did. The AFL is exciting, but had to disband their season this upcoming year, because of financial struggles. The UFL might have to do the same eventually, if things get worse.


The AFL finally announced it?


I think they announced it towards the end of last year. It's a shame, because the AFL was finally picking up off the ground and gaining popularity. I found it to be pretty exciting too.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:12 pm


Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts

Valas Hume


vegito61283

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:44 am


Valas Hume
Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:18 pm


vegito61283
Valas Hume
Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.

Dude-LAP


Valas Hume

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:02 am


Dude-LAP
vegito61283
Valas Hume
Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.


There's money out there in every sport, the Euro NBA just has the luxury of the Euro being stronger than the Dollar.

Its not even the history or anything with the NFL. Its just established. Any establishment has the capability to do what the NFL has done so far.

I mean, in theory, the NFL can be considered a Monopoly since no competitors can truly succeed in the US market.

What's the difference between Microsoft and the NFL?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:24 am


If the UFL really wants to be a success, they'd be better off not competing in the fall vs. the NFL. Then again, if they compete during Spring, they'd compete vs. the AFL (except for this year anyway) which the NFL helps back to a certain degree.

Azzandra1


Dude-LAP

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:57 pm


Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
vegito61283
Valas Hume
Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.


There's money out there in every sport, the Euro NBA just has the luxury of the Euro being stronger than the Dollar.

Its not even the history or anything with the NFL. Its just established. Any establishment has the capability to do what the NFL has done so far.

I mean, in theory, the NFL can be considered a Monopoly since no competitors can truly succeed in the US market.

What's the difference between Microsoft and the NFL?


There is money in every sport, as long as there's support. The UFL was just announced, so don't jump to positive conclusions just yet.

All establishments have the ability to succeed, but there's no way in my opinion that the UFL will be able to compare to the NFL. Young players and older players might be showcased in the UFL, but no way is a star player in their prime leaving the NFL, where they can absorb the glory. Also, I doubt that many true NFL fans would want to make the switch to support another league.

The NFL isn't a monopoly, because they're giving all their competition a right to compete. The NFL also hasn't bought out any other football leagues. Also, the NFL established itself so well a long time ago, that the competition just seems incomparable.

...and there are huge differences between Microsoft and the NFL. confused
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:44 pm


Dude-LAP
Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
vegito61283
Valas Hume
Nyu-kun
Lol. Farm League. They don't want to be a farm league. Just like the Arena Football League. That's not a farm league. NFL Europa is a farm league.

I hope this UFL can compete with the NFL. That would be very interesting..... VERY VERY Interesting.... Strange things would happen. Lol.

I doubt it'll be very successful though... NFL is just too big of a monster to topple.


Many have tried, none have succeeded. They just can't get the quality of player they need in order to draw the fans in. If they could sign some bigger name NFL players, it'd give their league credibility atleast. Or they could be like the Europe NBA with those insane, guaranteed, contracts


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.


There's money out there in every sport, the Euro NBA just has the luxury of the Euro being stronger than the Dollar.

Its not even the history or anything with the NFL. Its just established. Any establishment has the capability to do what the NFL has done so far.

I mean, in theory, the NFL can be considered a Monopoly since no competitors can truly succeed in the US market.

What's the difference between Microsoft and the NFL?


There is money in every sport, as long as there's support. The UFL was just announced, so don't jump to positive conclusions just yet.

All establishments have the ability to succeed, but there's no way in my opinion that the UFL will be able to compare to the NFL. Young players and older players might be showcased in the UFL, but no way is a star player in their prime leaving the NFL, where they can absorb the glory. Also, I doubt that many true NFL fans would want to make the switch to support another league.

The NFL isn't a monopoly, because they're giving all their competition a right to compete. The NFL also hasn't bought out any other football leagues. Also, the NFL established itself so well a long time ago, that the competition just seems incomparable.

...and there are huge differences between Microsoft and the NFL. confused


If the UFL is gonna launch & play in the fall/winter, its stupid. To really succeed they gotta almost play end of Winter - Spring/Summer.

Yes, they're giving them the right to compete BUT no one else can compete. Its like Microsoft. Both the NFL & Microsoft do allows others to compete but its kind of a joke. There's no feasible way for any league to go up against the NFL. There's no feasible alternative to Microsoft if you're a gamer or enjoy cheaper priced software.

Valas Hume


Dude-LAP

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:24 pm


Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
vegito61283


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.


There's money out there in every sport, the Euro NBA just has the luxury of the Euro being stronger than the Dollar.

Its not even the history or anything with the NFL. Its just established. Any establishment has the capability to do what the NFL has done so far.

I mean, in theory, the NFL can be considered a Monopoly since no competitors can truly succeed in the US market.

What's the difference between Microsoft and the NFL?


There is money in every sport, as long as there's support. The UFL was just announced, so don't jump to positive conclusions just yet.

All establishments have the ability to succeed, but there's no way in my opinion that the UFL will be able to compare to the NFL. Young players and older players might be showcased in the UFL, but no way is a star player in their prime leaving the NFL, where they can absorb the glory. Also, I doubt that many true NFL fans would want to make the switch to support another league.

The NFL isn't a monopoly, because they're giving all their competition a right to compete. The NFL also hasn't bought out any other football leagues. Also, the NFL established itself so well a long time ago, that the competition just seems incomparable.

...and there are huge differences between Microsoft and the NFL. confused


If the UFL is gonna launch & play in the fall/winter, its stupid. To really succeed they gotta almost play end of Winter - Spring/Summer.

Yes, they're giving them the right to compete BUT no one else can compete. Its like Microsoft. Both the NFL & Microsoft do allows others to compete but its kind of a joke. There's no feasible way for any league to go up against the NFL. There's no feasible alternative to Microsoft if you're a gamer or enjoy cheaper priced software.


There's nothing wrong about how the NFL is running the show. Just because competition isn't necessarily successful, doesn't mean that it's unfair. It's not like the NFL is buying out other leagues, or using propaganda to diminish them. The NFL was established early, and has a fan-base which includes most of the United States, so it's bound to do better than any new-coming competition.

Also, Apple has done pretty well pinning Mac against PC. wink
PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:05 pm


Azzandra1
If the UFL really wants to be a success, they'd be better off not competing in the fall vs. the NFL. Then again, if they compete during Spring, they'd compete vs. the AFL (except for this year anyway) which the NFL helps back to a certain degree.


I think if they keep the league small, keep salary small, and have good marketing, they have a chance in my opinion. Also, if they market themselves as a different league, not one that is competing against the NFL, that may work as well. Less expensive ticket prices will help as well ...

I live in the SF bay area, and would love to attend the SF franchise games.

my $0.02 worth.

diversaurus


Dude-LAP

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:29 pm


diversaurus
Azzandra1
If the UFL really wants to be a success, they'd be better off not competing in the fall vs. the NFL. Then again, if they compete during Spring, they'd compete vs. the AFL (except for this year anyway) which the NFL helps back to a certain degree.


I think if they keep the league small, keep salary small, and have good marketing, they have a chance in my opinion. Also, if they market themselves as a different league, not one that is competing against the NFL, that may work as well. Less expensive ticket prices will help as well ...

I live in the SF bay area, and would love to attend the SF franchise games.

my $0.02 worth.


The UFL will gain some support. Ticket prices will be lower, player salaries will not be ludicrous, and the league will be small. But I don't really know how they'll be able to gain success through marketing. Besides having a few well known coaches and signing a few players who used to have names for themselves, there isn't much they can do.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:14 am


Dude-LAP
Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
Valas Hume
Dude-LAP
vegito61283


While none have succeeded, this has the chance with high level and successful coaches to be able to farm enough talent from the players who do not make a roster, dont make it through the draft or are on the end of their careers. So this would make it a valid farm league if it pans out or can even possibly make it into a competitive option to the NFL. Plus with the limited money, they could make it like you said about the European NBA with guaranteed contracts instead of those given to the NFL players. Plus with Guaranteed contracts, it is more alluring because they will get the money they are signing for even if it is not as much.


A farm league for football, possibly. But no way will the UFL be able to compete with the NFL. The NFL has the history, the players, the stadiums, the publicity, the fans, the marketing, and the primetime. A new league will struggle to "steal" or share fans with their counterpart league, unless it's a hometown team from a city without a professional team. Also, money is a huge issue. Especially with the struggling economy. And the only reason why the European basketball leagues have done so well, was because of the strong value of the Euro.


There's money out there in every sport, the Euro NBA just has the luxury of the Euro being stronger than the Dollar.

Its not even the history or anything with the NFL. Its just established. Any establishment has the capability to do what the NFL has done so far.

I mean, in theory, the NFL can be considered a Monopoly since no competitors can truly succeed in the US market.

What's the difference between Microsoft and the NFL?


There is money in every sport, as long as there's support. The UFL was just announced, so don't jump to positive conclusions just yet.

All establishments have the ability to succeed, but there's no way in my opinion that the UFL will be able to compare to the NFL. Young players and older players might be showcased in the UFL, but no way is a star player in their prime leaving the NFL, where they can absorb the glory. Also, I doubt that many true NFL fans would want to make the switch to support another league.

The NFL isn't a monopoly, because they're giving all their competition a right to compete. The NFL also hasn't bought out any other football leagues. Also, the NFL established itself so well a long time ago, that the competition just seems incomparable.

...and there are huge differences between Microsoft and the NFL. confused


If the UFL is gonna launch & play in the fall/winter, its stupid. To really succeed they gotta almost play end of Winter - Spring/Summer.

Yes, they're giving them the right to compete BUT no one else can compete. Its like Microsoft. Both the NFL & Microsoft do allows others to compete but its kind of a joke. There's no feasible way for any league to go up against the NFL. There's no feasible alternative to Microsoft if you're a gamer or enjoy cheaper priced software.


There's nothing wrong about how the NFL is running the show. Just because competition isn't necessarily successful, doesn't mean that it's unfair. It's not like the NFL is buying out other leagues, or using propaganda to diminish them. The NFL was established early, and has a fan-base which includes most of the United States, so it's bound to do better than any new-coming competition.

Also, Apple has done pretty well pinning Mac against PC. wink


Not really. Overall Microsoft still dominates everything

Valas Hume


identity7

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:17 pm


well the UFL is going to have some trouble conjuring up a fan base, and knowing the monster that the NFL is i dont think we will hear about the UFL until later years.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:25 pm


identity7
well the UFL is going to have some trouble conjuring up a fan base, and knowing the monster that the NFL is i dont think we will hear about the UFL until later years.


Same. And along with the NFL, the UFL also has to compete with NCAA football. There are tons of die-hard college football fans, unwilling to switch or alter viewings.

Dude-LAP

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