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Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:58 am


Hunting of the rats

Honestly I think its a great idea, these people do not have jobs, they have little or no income. Hear is an idea to give them a financial incentive to make the city a better place to live.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:30 pm


Well, I view it as controversial from a scientific standpoint. If you offer incentives for the death of rats, what's going to happen is that there is going to be a massive holocaust of the rodents. And that might upset the balance of nature. I'm sure even in Berlin, there are still animals that depend, one way or the other, on the rat.

Alucard1057


Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:15 pm


Alucard1057
Well, I view it as controversial from a scientific standpoint. If you offer incentives for the death of rats, what's going to happen is that there is going to be a massive holocaust of the rodents. And that might upset the balance of nature. I'm sure even in Berlin, there are still animals that depend, one way or the other, on the rat.


One concept pops into my mind, it was a concept introduced by darwin, its called survival of the fittest, this is us proving that we can be more fit than disease carrying rats, I for one am all for it, as for the other animals I'm sure they'll adapt and if they don't thats not our problem.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:11 pm


One problem there, it's a common misconception that "survival of the fittest" is the survival of the strongest species. Rather survival of the fittest is really that the strongest of one species will survive, and the weaker(genetically and often physically) will die out. It's the elimination of weak traits to ensure the survival of a race.

Alucard1057


Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:11 am


Alucard1057
One problem there, it's a common misconception that "survival of the fittest" is the survival of the strongest species. Rather survival of the fittest is really that the strongest of one species will survive, and the weaker(genetically and often physically) will die out. It's the elimination of weak traits to ensure the survival of a race.


Can that same concept not also be applied to a species' as a whole? I hardly think darwin announced when he said this that this is a concept that has strict limitations on when it may be used.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 9:26 am


fittest also does not mean strongest. it could be fastest or smartest or smallest. In an area where cows graze, short grass is more fit as it gets eaten less often than tall grass. In an area without cows or other large herbivores, the taller grasses have easier access to sunlight. It all depends on the environment.

Perhaps nature will select against people with a propensity to kill themselves off by drastically altering the ecosystem in which they live. Dunno, just a thought

mr_zoot


Twizted Humanitarian
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:07 pm


and my thought is that the end of human life on earth is not a tragedy.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:01 am


profound, and pessimistic.....but I don't disagree.

mr_zoot

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