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 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:43 pm
Ok, I've seen so many videos on youtube with this title that it absolutely disgusts me. Ron Paul has campaigned for most... not all, but most... of the libertarian ideals. I've even seen one where this hick, redneck, backwards, moronic... I'm not gonna finish that description. But this person calls Ron Paul a "Maverick" among Republicans, and throws the word "Libertarian" around as if its some sort of insult.
Now, if i could find this guy, I'd lift him up by the neck and give him a good throttling... But one thing is true. Ron Paul has not garnered the support he would need to win this election, which is unfortunate. It is also clear to me that we are in an era where the mass media tries to control who gets elected. and its made apparent by another video i saw covering a John McCain press conference or something of the like that was supposedly "open to the public" but only admitted 60 people. the people they kept out, and the part they didn't show you... Were the Ron Paul supporters. Its NO SECRET that the mass media is trying to control and indeed DOES control these races, but Ron Paul has done better than any other "third" candidate because of massive guerilla campaigning. the problem is, not a whole lot of people listen to this guerilla campaigning... yet. everyone has a TV, a Radio, whatever. NOT everybody has internet. I find it appaling, though, that every 4 years, we must choose between a Communist and a Fascist for our president... our "Face" ... because thats all these media companies will sponsor.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:28 pm
We have a choice between a liberal and two socialists, all of whom like big government. And they're all pro amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is a big issue in my state.... Why McCain won here, where so many people know he opposes border control, I'm not sure. I'm also still trying to figure out how the media-approved candidate won in the Republican Party, when we know the media is run by liberals. Are you sure there weren't some angry conservatives being kept out of the conference as well?
About the campaigning.... I don't know about where you live, but I've seen more signs, banners, bumper stickers, fliers, etc. for Ron Paul than for anyone else. While certainly everyone knows his name now, Paul supporters have gotten a reputation for being fanatical and overzealous, and as a result are not taken seriously. And frankly, even I don't see the point of having a gazillion signs, spaced four to six feet apart, lining every chain link fence and on both sides of an overpass. It's just a little much. You know what they say about too much of a good thing.... I think some people may actually have been scared away.
It's amazing how many people I've encountered who have never even considered the concept of having government stay out of people's lives though. I've talked to several people who ended up realizing that maybe a smaller government would be better.... not that they actually became Libertarians (for that matter, I'm not a capital 'L' Libertarian either), but at least they will oppose national healthcare now. They had just... never been exposed to an alternative philosophy, and thought that government is the only solution to peoples' problems and taxes the only method of 'giving.' It was really very creepy.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:16 pm
Kira84 We have a choice between a liberal and two socialists, all of whom like big government. And they're all pro amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is a big issue in my state.... Why McCain won here, where so many people know he opposes border control, I'm not sure. I'm also still trying to figure out how the media-approved candidate won in the Republican Party, when we know the media is run by liberals. Are you sure there weren't some angry conservatives being kept out of the conference as well? About the campaigning.... I don't know about where you live, but I've seen more signs, banners, bumper stickers, fliers, etc. for Ron Paul than for anyone else. While certainly everyone knows his name now, Paul supporters have gotten a reputation for being fanatical and overzealous, and as a result are not taken seriously. And frankly, even I don't see the point of having a gazillion signs, spaced four to six feet apart, lining every chain link fence and on both sides of an overpass. It's just a little much. You know what they say about too much of a good thing.... I think some people may actually have been scared away. It's amazing how many people I've encountered who have never even considered the concept of having government stay out of people's lives though. I've talked to several people who ended up realizing that maybe a smaller government would be better.... not that they actually became Libertarians (for that matter, I'm not a capital 'L' Libertarian either), but at least they will oppose national healthcare now. They had just... never been exposed to an alternative philosophy, and thought that government is the only solution to peoples' problems and taxes the only method of 'giving.' It was really very creepy. I personally can't accomplish much on my end of this, NY is super liberal and I'm attending Obama's alma mater. neutral nevertheless, Ron Paul said himself that his objectives could not all be achieved without extreme support, and it is true that his movement has created an awareness within the populous about events taking place. This latter aspect in an objective perspective is extremely beneficial, even to soccer moms, however, i see something far more disturbing in the background. People are beginning to polarize. Its clear, and its happening in virtually all age categories all across the country (I travel a lot). They are polarizing to radical and communitarian ideologies. I am not pleased with this dilemma.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:27 am
Kira84 We have a choice between a liberal and two socialists, all of whom like big government. And they're all pro amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is a big issue in my state.... Why McCain won here, where so many people know he opposes border control, I'm not sure. I'm also still trying to figure out how the media-approved candidate won in the Republican Party, when we know the media is run by liberals. Are you sure there weren't some angry conservatives being kept out of the conference as well? About the campaigning.... I don't know about where you live, but I've seen more signs, banners, bumper stickers, fliers, etc. for Ron Paul than for anyone else. While certainly everyone knows his name now, Paul supporters have gotten a reputation for being fanatical and overzealous, and as a result are not taken seriously. And frankly, even I don't see the point of having a gazillion signs, spaced four to six feet apart, lining every chain link fence and on both sides of an overpass. It's just a little much. You know what they say about too much of a good thing.... I think some people may actually have been scared away. It's amazing how many people I've encountered who have never even considered the concept of having government stay out of people's lives though. I've talked to several people who ended up realizing that maybe a smaller government would be better.... not that they actually became Libertarians (for that matter, I'm not a capital 'L' Libertarian either), but at least they will oppose national healthcare now. They had just... never been exposed to an alternative philosophy, and thought that government is the only solution to peoples' problems and taxes the only method of 'giving.' It was really very creepy. well, I live in the dead state of michigan. the only borderjumping done here is to get the hell OUT. We are, after all, the seat of America's failed auto industry. as a direct result, I see more "for sale" signs popping up than posters/fliers for any candidate. Edit: 2337 posts. It's pronounced "Tweet"
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:12 pm
I'd like to think the revolution isn't dead. Even if Ron Paul can't win the election. I hope it creates more discussion about limited government. I campagned for Ron Paul, and I still have a bumper sticker on my car and a T shirt that I wear. I like that Paul supporters are passionate about getting the message accross, but the media does have a huge amount of control. Dispite having his name plastered on posters and all across the internet, there are a lot of people who have no idea who he is. There is a huge percentage of the population that simply will not put any thought into politics, and will only vote for someone if they are told to vote for them by the T.V. This is more of a social issue than a political one, but it's scary how quickly we are moving towards becoming a society that insists on everything being spoonfed to them while the world spins out of control.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:22 pm
Anthon Noire I personally can't accomplish much on my end of this, NY is super liberal and I'm attending Obama's alma mater. neutral nevertheless, Ron Paul said himself that his objectives could not all be achieved without extreme support, and it is true that his movement has created an awareness within the populous about events taking place. This latter aspect in an objective perspective is extremely beneficial, even to soccer moms, however, i see something far more disturbing in the background. People are beginning to polarize. Its clear, and its happening in virtually all age categories all across the country (I travel a lot). They are polarizing to radical and communitarian ideologies. I am not pleased with this dilemma. You travel a lot... I envy you. I can only speak for my state, but here the roads were literally lined with Ron Paul signs in places. I agree that it's good to get the word out and to educate people about a smaller government ideology, but I think that is the wrong way to do it. It's a little over the top and while it does get people to know the candidate's name, a couple of signs along the road rather than a ton all concentrated in one place would be just as visible, less overwhelming and would not give the impression that Paul supporters--and by extension, Ron Paul--are fanatical, overzealous, or crazy. That's what people seem to think. Also, people seem to know the name but not the issues. I think it may work better in the future to have campaign signs that say, plainly and concisely, a candidate's position on a certain issue, then the candidate's website at the bottom of the page, rather than just the candidate's name in big letters on the sign. Like, for example--'Support an unborn child's right to life' then ww.candidate.com. Not quite Ron Paul's position on the issue, I know, but I'm not good at wording things and that's just meant as an example.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:45 am
I tend to agree with Kung Fu Jeff. The Revolution isn't dead, it just hasn't succedded yet. Ron Paul has been re-elected to Congress, so he'll continue the fight there. Until Ron Paul drops out of political life altogether, the Revoolution isn't dead. And remember, the Ron Paul revolution is part of a larger Libertarian Revolution, so even if he does drop out, we'll continue the fight. biggrin
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:03 pm
haha a "maverick" among Republicans, more like the only one that understands what a Republican is thats why he hasn't switched to another party. Ever since the Regan administration the word Republican has been completly switched around, it used to be. Stick to the constitution, now it's Ehhh run the constitution through the mud.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:00 am
itll never die as long as we keep fighting for the ideas he boldy reminded everyone this country was founded on. its sad when the bold(or crazy) candidate is the one who has the ideas this country was founded on...how absurd!
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:10 am
How can it be dead if there are those who still support it?
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:41 am
It appears as though the Ron Paul Revolution HAS had an impact, after all. NO House Republicans, and only 3 Senate Republicans, voted for the $800 billion poison pill Obama is going to shove down the economies throat today. Frankly, I think this is just a deathbed conversion on the part of the Republican Party, something to drum up support and remind people what, they used to be about. I doubt it would last if they ever got back into power. Still, temporary or not, I think the Revolution deserves some credit for this.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:04 am
Had John McCain been more like Paul than Obama (I really didn't see much of a difference between the two), I might have voted for him.
I wrote in Ron Paul here in Colorado, even though I had to make my own box and scrawl his name up the side of the "President" area. Colorado has no place to write in presidential candidates.
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Twizzle Dizzle Red rolled 1 20-sided dice:
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Total: 11 (1-20)
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:36 pm
PandoraXero Ok, I've seen so many videos on youtube with this title that it absolutely disgusts me. Ron Paul has campaigned for most... not all, but most... of the libertarian ideals. I've even seen one where this hick, redneck, backwards, moronic... I'm not gonna finish that description. But this person calls Ron Paul a "Maverick" among Republicans, and throws the word "Libertarian" around as if its some sort of insult. Now, if i could find this guy, I'd lift him up by the neck and give him a good throttling... But one thing is true. Ron Paul has not garnered the support he would need to win this election, which is unfortunate. It is also clear to me that we are in an era where the mass media tries to control who gets elected. and its made apparent by another video i saw covering a John McCain press conference or something of the like that was supposedly "open to the public" but only admitted 60 people. the people they kept out, and the part they didn't show you... Were the Ron Paul supporters. Its NO SECRET that the mass media is trying to control and indeed DOES control these races, but Ron Paul has done better than any other "third" candidate because of massive guerilla campaigning. the problem is, not a whole lot of people listen to this guerilla campaigning... yet. everyone has a TV, a Radio, whatever. NOT everybody has internet. I find it appaling, though, that every 4 years, we must choose between a Communist and a Fascist for our president... our "Face" ... because thats all these media companies will sponsor. Never fear my dear the revolution is alive and well even right now. Did you keep up with the campaign for liberty? Ron Paul didn't let anyone down he opened schools to teach the young americans for liberty how politics works and its still growing strong. We have people each day, including in my own state who are big Ron Paul supporters that are running for election in 2010. keep your voice going and Ron Paul will have all the help he needs to bring us back. Teach what he taught us and others will listen. They are listening now and I am once again on the campaign trail. We have one congressman, whom I warned a long time ago that his job is going to end. And it is. Our state knows what is going on and those who supported Ron Paul? well we are hangin in there. We have two really good guys now running against the corrupt one. The corrupt one is gonna lost cause we know his voting record and we are spreadin the word. all over the state. First you gotta run down the bad ones and have your facts right on them because people are listening like they have never listened before. Then just inject who is running and what they stand for. we have two good guys but one corrupt one so that is the one we gotta throw out. use your power of the ballot and change washington and change your reps. your state needs good guys too. so just go to the govt. website, check out each ones voting records, type them up, print them out and start passing it out. Tell people about the people running and why they are good. for instance in my state: I am on the bandwagon for RJ Harris. Why? Because his exact words were "When I saw my congressman vote for socialism and the bailouts, I knew it was time to do something. So I decided to run for congress. (which is where ron paul is) I have spent 18 years in the national guard and Well here read it for yourself then visit our man's website and read his own words. This is the type of people you want to put in congress and if possible the senate. after a while you will be able to pick them out just by listening to what they say. Knowledge is power. I was a delegate for Ron Paul and he was pretty good in our state. Like I said we were not in an election but in a revolution. Elections are short term. Revolutions are long term. anyway here's the site. http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=8161
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