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First off, this lady began speaking to me because she was against my blogs on abortion. Somehow she and I ended up becoming friends and have been talking online for about four months. We haven't talked about abortion until I got The War on Choice by Gloria Feldt for Christmas and told her about it. I said this:

"I chose The War on Choice because I think it is important to be knowledgable about our reproductive rights as women, and how they are being attacked.

I have been thinking about starting a Pro-Choice club at my school for my Senior Project (due date: about 2 years from now). This may be a challenge because I would want to get guest speakers from Planned Parenthood and I would want to start a "Day of Choice" (title may be changed) on Jan. 22nd. We would have a special club meeting that day and all would be asked to attend. We would discuss what pro-choice means, what reproductive rights are (and how they are in relationship to the independence and privacy of everyone), and how reproductive rights are under attack. We would try to have a Planned Parenthood repersenative help us with a Q&A. Also we could have club shirts. I have been considering this for about 8 months now and I am really thinking about it. Oh we could also do fundraisers for different organizations that help with access to contraceptions, abortion, and sterilization."



Then she went on to say:


"as for your Pro-choice stance. Please understand that a woman who is pregnant made 2 choices ALREADY- one - unprotected sex, and 2 to have sex w/out marriage. ONly 1 % of pregnancies are the result of rape.
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I also want YOU TO CONSIDER THAT in the most liberal law schools- U Penn and Yale (my brother in law is a Princeton grad and also graduated from UVA law school, he is very bright, also liberal, but HUMBLE, ) the flawed legal reasoning that allowed Roe V Wade is NOT TAUGHT IN ELITE LAW SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS FOR THIS DECISION IS ILLOGICAL AND NOT A RATIONAL APPLICATION OF THE US CONSTITUTION.
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On a personal level, Norma McCovey (also known as Jane Roe a fake name given to her by her attorneys) has converted to Christianity and has written a book about her false misconception about the "rights of choice and abortion".
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I beg you as a friend and woman who knows abortion is already a legal right but not a moral one, to READ BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.
You do a disservice to all teens and yourself when you don't educate yourself on an issue.
I don't want you to regret this idea and follow through.
I will let you know i am very far from a saint.
i regret all of my college drinking and i drank EVERY NIGHT except for Sunday of course because on sundays is when my college friends and i would go to church and study at the University of Scranton.
There were some terrible nights when i dranks so much i passed out on dorm floors- i wish i knew that that much alcohol destroys the liver.
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i care about you and don't want you to make decisions you will regret when you are in your 30's and 40's.
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I feel very offended and like she was speaking to me in a condescending tone. I am hurt to say the least, I really don’t know how to respond to this.

My suggestion if you want to stay friends with this person is to just stop talking about abortion with her and focus on other things. (Unless you're able to stay calm and light-hearted when you debate, which I definately can't.)

First off -
McCovey's religion has nothing to do with anything, even if she is Christian. Not all Christians are conservative, take me for instance, I'm Christian, and pro-choice. (And for gay rights, and 100% liberal. ;D )

Also, pro-choice is the most logical thing for America, since it was ruled in a different case (I forget the exact name, but I'll get it tomarrow after church for you, because its saved on my computer and I am not home right now) that people have a right to privacy about their body, and it would be sexist if that law excluded women. Also, because personal morals are not a deciding factor in cases, because some find it immoral, that is a petty case to base it on. For example, I do not eat meat, and if I found it immoraL, would that make it okay to take people's rights away to eat meat? Of course not.

Furthermore, you need to tell her that the choice to have sex before marriage is not only none of her business, but many married women do not want to have children, and thus, get an abortion. Even again on her faulty point, protection fails, and she should not blame the woman for the faults of birth control.

The woman sounds ignorant.

That's "McCorvey", first of all.

And, as 20 Shades of Crazy pointed out, her opinion does not matter. Lifers like to point this out as if McCorvey was some great pro-choice heroine and that her change of opinions has any relevance to us. Persoanlly, I think she was a pawn in the court case and is now a pawn on the pro-life side. She probably thought that being the plaintiff would help her, and she would be able to get an abortion. But she never did. She had to carry to term and give the baby up for adoption, which hurt her tremendously. I think she felt abandoned and betrayed because of that, and the pro-life side took advantage of that. I feel sorry for her. My real heroine in Roe vs. Wade is Sarah Weddington, who was McCorvey's lawyer.



They like to say that R. v. W. was wrongly decided, but I've never seen them explain why.



In case she hadn't noticed, the legal right is threatened.



She wouldn't say this if it were a pro-life club.



I see people like this a lot. Here's my explination: They did bad (or perhaps "bad") things before, but then they made a religious conversion and stopped. They don't take credit for stopping, they think God/Jesus healed them, and think that the ONLY alternative to the destructive behavior they engaged in before is to surrender their life to God. So they try to preach about their "miraculous" conversion to others.

I think this explains it fairly well:Alternet ||| The Christian Right's Fear of Pleasure is Our Biggest Threat To Choice



Honestly, when I read things like this, I get a vivid mental image of some guide for missionaries/lifers telling them to expess compassion for whoever they are trying to convert. It doesn't seem genuine at all. And if it is, it's tremendously condescending.



It was either your Teens4Choice Myspace or somebody else's, but I remember coming across a pro-choice myspace that had a pro-life myspace as a top friend. I was puzzled, and I told that person that it was kind of hypocritical and didn't make any sense, but they told me that it was okay and that they were friends who just disagreed. I left it at that, but... I still think it's a really bad idea for a pro-choicer and a pro-lifer to try to be friends. Or at least, serious friends.